How can you guys support this orange clown...

How can you guys support this orange clown? Now he's telling Breitbart he supports a 20% tariff on lumber imported from Canada. Way to fuck the construction trade over. Almost all the pine used in construction is from Canada. Cheap Canadian lumber is essential to the trade. I hope you fags like your homes being built by nothing but spics now because companies are going to have to hire cheaper labor to offset the cost.

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Why you so worked up over wood? Buy American.

Or you know. We could cut our own wood?

Buy American

Americans having a house being built will just have to borrow a little more from their bank

I have all the wood needed this morning

you faggots shouldnt have stopped all american milk from coming into canada this week...we literally have to dump out millions of product intended to be used in your market.

you had this raking fall upon your own heads

You can't get pine nearly as cheap. I do commercial construction not so much residential. This isn't some homeowner having to pay slightly more for his house. That's not how it works. A lot of the places are built way in advanced with no guarantee in residency because the market is booming, especially right now. People aren't going to wanna build these places anymore or the cost is going to get offset onto the contractors and they will try to hire cheaper labor. Its a lose lose. If i was a sub contractor running my own jobs which I'm thankfully not then I'd be fucked.

>all american
Yeah, no thanks. We don't need your stupid hormone-filled milk. Beside, why should we care about what americans want. Trump wants to put america first, why do you get pissed when we put canada first, protecting canadian farmers and the canadian population from your hormone filled "milk".

Do burgers not know how to cut their own lumber?

HE BETRAYED US!

Except, as a nation you probably don't want to encourage all your trees to be cut down.

trying to engineer a system collapse

try and keep up, you fucking loser.

im not pissed. you dont deserve our delicious milk.

just dont whine about lumber you fairy

at least hes doing something

Just use more drywall lmao

China is already offering to buy it, so no big deal

>canadian wood
>from canadian trees
>what else is from canadian trees?
>leafs

A TAX ON FUCKING LEAFS!

As someone who lives in a town devastated when they closed the lumber mill, good.

Buy American. Hire American.

A Fucking Leaf BTFO

Keeping the shitskins out and slashing OSHAs funding were the only good things i could think of. OSHAs a buncha commie fucks. If you get caught on a job anywhere higher than 6 foot off the ground without a harnass on then OSHA will slam you for a 5k fee. Regardless of if you work for a company or on your own.

are you a boy scout leader?

my house is cinder-block framed.

termites and Leafs BTFO.

americans dons use wood to build homes
they use cardboard

nice try though

>A lot of the places are built way in advanced with no guarantee in residency because the market is booming
history is repeating once again.
If he's able to stop that, isn't that actually a good thing?

Quads are actually true. A lot of the trim used in these buildings are actually just pieces of heated and pressed cardboard with veneer slapped on it.

checked it

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>built by spics
>now
Newsflash dad.

>building your home out of wood

do you want to die in a house fire?

Pretty much lel, WE WUZ BUILDERS AND SHIT

you protect, that's ok
we try to protect and your panties get twisted

Buy American.

And while we're on the subject of construction we need to talk about all those illegal Mexicans you faggots employ.

You'll pay for this america

Don't you have some cultural enrichment with Ahkmed to attend to?

Canada is a part of the Americas.

Yeah, they've pretty much bought your entire country.

I get my pine from the Amish and it's much cheaper.

If Canadia put a 20% tariff on the electricity it sells the USA The Orange One will back down at once.

Trade wars don't work.

If you wanted to sell milk in canada, maybe you should've picked up a fucking book & learned what the canadian standard was.

They replant them retard

>tfw ameripoors build their houses from wood

america first

op is a faggot

Maybe home builders should buy American lumber. The tarrif will create American jobs.

>what is a tree farm

Pasteurized milk isn't milk you shitheads. Enjoy your manboobs.

What are you trying to say? That Canada is going to sell their electricity 20% more expensive ?
Rearrange your thoughts

Anyways, trump doesn't understand free trade, he thinks if everything is built or get the materials from the us is a win
What you want is to built and get the best stuff at the cheapest prices and focus on what you can do best, or else your costing jobs, like the ones the op is talking about, yes you get jobs in the lumber industry but you're costing jobs in other areas which could be better paid
He's going to make everything more expensive with tariffs cause if America could produce things cheaper then they wouldn't import anything
What you want is to export less things and import more things. To put things simple, do you like receiving more things than what you give? Or do you like to give more things than what you receive?

Dear Tranada,
Fuck you and your faggot horse.
Signed,
Real America.

basically this

Nice quads fingol mate

>The currency is down by 0.5% at 1.3565 per US dollar as of 7:52 a.m. ET.

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The raking has begun!

>What you want is to export less things and import more things

t. Obama Voter

Fuck off, Paco.

>boiled milk is not milk
>muh hormones
It's not hormones giving you boobs, it's just you being a fat fuck.

Is totally the opposite of Obama, it's free trade
Just answer the question, do you like to receive more things than what you give, or do you like to give more than what you receive

Fuck off is not an argument, you have to analyze what's the root of the problem, what caused those jobs to leave in the first place, and it's not unfair competition, it's competition but it's not unfair, analyze what made them a better choice and why you can't have that in the US currently

>costing jobs in other areas
Like what

>what we need is more global trade
Mexican intelectuals

>analyze what made them a better choice
A 0% tariff.

>MUH SHEKELS

Beat it kike

t. american immigrant

Carpenter here most lumber in the usa is like half the price anyways compared to Canada.

No, but generally homes reflect the natural resources of the area. Canada, lumber and lots of it. Loghomes, wooden frames and sometimes stone.

Homes already are buily by nothing but spics, was that some lame shot at sarcasm?

Less trade is going to impact YOUR standard of living the hardest. MAGA!

Who builds in pine? Houses use fir. You dont sound like you know what youre talking about

You know nothing of construction I've estimated many homes and the wood is the cheapest part of any home even if prices rose 20% which they wouldn't you're looking at maybe an extra 500 dollars on a 250k house.

>caring about moneys

You can do better than that. If you put the tariff you're buying a more expensive material, but why? Just use your brain a little
The jobs lost are most of the time invisible, you do save jobs, but what you lose, you may not be aware. You made the materials cost more due to tariffs, you are still effectively buying at higher prices from the US distributors, the consumer has less money to spend in other things cause he's now paying those in the industry so they can be safe and not go under, you're paying a tax to maintain a few jobs, the other jobs you're costing are the ones you're not paying with your extra dollars, the ones that come from the use of the materials that now have tariffs, you may not have many businesses making furniture in America cause it's now more expensive and no one is buying them, you may not have as many stuff made from wood due to the same things, same goes for steel, and farmers, with tariffs and subsidies you're paying a tax to maintain those people in the businesses, protecting them from people outside the country who can do it better and cheaper

Was it ok to save GM from going under?
Was it ok to bailout the banks?
Is the same principle, the individual is paying to maintain businesses alive even when they're less productive

People outside the us won't be buying your expensive stuff, cause if I want to buy wood and Canada is selling it cheaper, then I would buy it from them

Tariffs is what socialist countries do, they will sooner or later cost jobs and increase inflation

No problem, Trump. We'll just raise the price of the dirt cheap water and electricity we're selling you.

>house fire

What you want if you're a sane person, is to spend less money and get more stuff
It's not a hard principle, and you do it daily
If I could produce in Mexico or any part of the world the best and cheaper beer should you put a tariff to protect fucking Coors or Bud light? I mean, hypothetically, it's the best and no one can compete yet with those prices, it's a tariff justifiable? Will you punish the consumer to not get a beer until other beer competitors get their shit together?

What about avocados, the meme product, if my avocados are better, tastier and cheaper, should you put a tariff until Florida learns how to produce something to compete?

What you export is what you not consume, what you import is what you consume. You want the best stuff at cheaper prices, and give the best of what you can make. I've seen the avocados and strawberrys and lots of stuff we export, and they're not remotely the same than the ones we consume here

>t. Mexican intellectual
Those arent "invisible" jobs, blue collar jobs ARE the middle class economy, without them you get massive income inequality.

Youre talking like a liberal now and pretending markets dont exist. The market forces dont end with tariff -- after its in place domestic companies start competing with each other instead of being steadily priced out completely. You also have to improve busines conditions at home.

The obvious thing everyone is missing here is the Canadian dollar fell through the floor last year so a tariff would only bring prices back up to 2015 levels. Tariffs are a way to combat money manipulation withouy devaluing yourself

In America the wood for a house is about $6000. Probably thanks to Canada gouging. So an extra 20% would be $1200 more.

Make like a Canadian and get out of here.

>income inequality
And I'm the liberal?

Think for a second what's costing you jobs, I already said it, it's your minimum wage laws, it's your regulations, it may be your unions, it may be your inefficiency

Yes, you may have people gathering wood inside the US due to the tariffs, but you're still buying it at higher prices, it's not hard to understand that. If you could produce the same at lower prices than Canada then you would do that by now. Use your brain

You're the one thinking like a modern liberal, you're the one "protecting" the worker, but you're doing it at the expense of the consumer and at the expense of your currency

>The Canadian dollar fell
Even worse, you're failing to get even more cheaper goods, you want to buy stuff at higher prices, how retarded is that. Think

This.

>We'll just raise the price of the dirt cheap water and electricity we're selling you.
Oh noooooooo then we'd be forced to OH WAIT

we aren't forced to purchase shit. You raise the price, we buy from somewhere else. Nothing changes for us, your businesses go bankrupt, we shoot you trying to sneak into our country

Stfu you fag, the pine forests of South Arkansas are overflowing with this shit. Practically a weed

i have no problem paying a little more to keep dirty beaner goods out of my country

good.

we send all our good pine to you faggots and we end up with warped low grade shit.

hopefully we'll be getting higher quality stuff now

good goyim, keep the fed machine well oiled while it prints more money for you to pay those taxes on top of taxes

I just explained to you that the problem cant be fixed without addressing currency manipulation. You need to understand that. If Canadian dollars are worth 75% of US dollars you will never compete without addessing that. I also said making the business environment more friendly at home is key.

If you think income inequality isnt a problem youre not worth talking to. Look at Mexico ffs

>being this retarded

I guarantee you if we raised our electricity prices, your politicians would be crying and stamping their feet. We sell electricity BELOW market rate, and in some cases, have paid you to take our surplus electricity. Where else are you going to get it? Mexico?

As for water, Canada has one of the largest freshwater reserves of any country. You'd have to buy from Russia or Brazil, or start tapping into your already depleting aquifers if you want to buy water elsewhere.

>mfw Canada will now reveal its true powerlevel in trump negotiations.

DAY OF THE GRILL

I live in WA state. Can't build houses out of stone because it's an earthquake-prone zone here. The last earthquake fucked up a lot of stone houses. Also, the designs you can use are limited compared to wood

Sold below market rate by a long standing treaty. Same with oil. Canada cannot sell bulk water exports FYI

>by nothing but spics now
>companies are going to have to hire cheaper labor

This is already happening. Please don't be stupid.

Currency manipulation? That´s why you have a floating exchange rate, learn your stuff

income inequality? come on, you´re better than that, you´re american, your country is based on freedom. You don´t fix it by putting tariffs, you fix it by giving the people choice, you give them freedom, how can people be free if they can´t choose who to buy from, if they can´t choose if they´re willing to work for less than the minimum wage imposed, how can people be free if you keep limiting them with your "fixes"

if the people are concerned about the poor, and I´m too, you don´t fix it with tariffs, you fix it with education, you let the people choose their school system, you give them the power to give money to whoever gives the best education, you give them the tools to get better skills to compete in the market, and those tools are freedom and choice

If the poor are still poor, you don´t fix it with tariffs so they can get jobs, if people need jobs why don´t you just put people to dig holes and fill them, poor people may need money, and someone already tried to fix it but no one listens, that´s with the negative income tax, but that´s even harder, cause no one wants to get out of the welfare system and go to that NIT system

>Sold below market rate by a long standing treaty.

That's not a problem. Trump wants to reopen old treaties, so can we.

>Canada cannot sell bulk water exports FYI
For now. But we already export bottled water via American companies.

This is so ideological its scary. Coal miners are not going to go to school to become programmers and you will never beat China's halfprice currency and $3/hr workers with deregulation. Get real

Won't they just pass the cost on the consumer anyways? You fuckers make like $25/hr min.

OP might be a fag. America produces lots of lumber.

Wtf I hate Trump now

where they born coal miners? is coal miner a race?
I know it sounds harsh but if they can´t compete with prices with china because of your own minimum wage laws, and regulations it´s not china´s fault, its your own laws at fault

It´s the same principle with the burger flippers, they demand 15 dollars an hour even though they are not worth that much

Concrete monolithic structures when?

The problem is that America isn't exporting anything, it's only importing shit. I understand your premise, we should be focussing on what we do best and export that, import everything else for cheap. But apparently "what we do best" is accumulate national debt, because that is our number 1 export. And another flaw is that even though the free market guarantees the cheapest prices for imported products, everyday Americans don't experience the full effect. It all goes to the big businesses that relocate out of the country just to cut costs and increase profits. As an extreme example, when a company moves from the US to China, the cost of production is reduced by 90%, but the American people are only paying half off (still much cheaper than they were, but the middle-man increased his cut substantially)

maybe you should just account for less than 15% waste when you use your lumber inefficient fuck. Or start lowballing your estimates.

How much lumber is actually used in commercial construction? It's mostly steel, is it not?

and how come freedom is scary? your country was built upon that, that´s how it beat every single country around the world, it was unique, and now you want to be like europe, or venezuela, that´s scary, they say around the world that america has no values, but freedom was your value

you can´t patch things with more patches, look at what went wrong, and you´ll see it started with the first patch to "fix" things

also look at the negative income tax, not everything is "scary"

Ya dumb?
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