MFW I realized it was a lie

How did you feel when it hit you? How did you feel when you realized that Hitler literally did nothing wrong and the Holocaust was a hoax? Angry? Sad? Confused? The whole 12 stages of grief?

How relieved were you when you realized there are millions of anons who also know that feel?

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nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-06.html
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leuchter_Report
nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/polish/institute-for-forensic-research/
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/
holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2009/11/recovery-of-liquid-human-fat-from-pyres.html?m=1
hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab7-coke-coal-cremation/
nizkor.org/hweb/camps/auschwitz/crematoria/cremation-009.html
theatlantic.com/photo/
youtube.com/watch?v=VYSGCpGMhZc
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dachau_concentration_camp
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3770772/Prominent-German-neo-Nazi-convicted-Holocaust-denial.html
youtube.com/watch?v=zKqu93-wGGE
youtube.com/watch?v=mucb6r8tFAI
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>Implying the Holocaust wasn't real
>Quick and easy debunk for Stormcuck memes
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial
Hearing about Holocaust denial compelled former SS-Rottenführer Oskar Gröning to speak out: "I would like you to believe me. I saw the gas chambers. I saw the crematoria. I saw the open fires. I was on the ramp when the selections took place. I would like you to believe that these atrocities happened because I was there."

SS-Oberscharführer Josef Klehr has said that anyone who maintains that nobody was gassed at Auschwitz must be "crazy or on the wrong"


rationalwiki.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial
Muh tortured testimony
Muh human lampshades
Muh Auschwitz swimming pool

>Evidence for gas chambers, crematoriums, mass murder

nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-06.html
Zyklon-B is a powerful insecticide which serves as a carrier for the gas Hydrocyanic acid, or HCN. While interacting with iron and concrete, it creates Hydrocyanic compounds, which Leuchter admitted were found in the ruins of the gas chamber in Krematoria II. His finding was confirmed by findings of the Polish government.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leuchter_Report
The IFRC demonstrated that cyanides were present in all of the facilities where it is claimed that they were exposed, i.e. all five crematoria, the cellars of Block 11 and the delousing facilities


nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/polish/institute-for-forensic-research/

>How the Germans were able to commit mass murder

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/

holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2009/11/recovery-of-liquid-human-fat-from-pyres.html?m=1

hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab7-coke-coal-cremation/

nizkor.org/hweb/camps/auschwitz/crematoria/cremation-009.html

>Photos
theatlantic.com/photo/

>How did you feel when it hit you? How did you feel when you realized that Hitler literally did nothing wrong

it was a slow process.

How do you account for the logistical impossibilities of burning as many corpses as is claimed?

We know from aerial surveillance during the war that there weren't mountains of coke lying around Auschwitz which would literally be needed to burn those bodies.

My grandpa captured German submariners. One time, in a private talk, he confided in me that the wrong side won the war. That we had no sense fighting the Germans. I was so shocked. That didn't make sense to me. Didn't he know the Germans were evil? His best friend died in Normandy, didn't he care?

But now I know, and I'm horrified. Grandpa was right.

youtube.com/watch?v=VYSGCpGMhZc

(((((Oskar Gröning)))))

General Patton said the same thing in a letter to his wife in 1945.

phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/
>On April 2, 1945, as the Allies were closing in on Germany, Hitler's secretary recorded his final boast: "National Socialism will earn eternal gratitude for exterminating the Jews in Germany and Central Europe" [die Juden aus Deutschland und Mitteleuropa ausgerottet habe]. [327] Auschwitz represented the finality of Hitler's vision. The gas chambers were the principal, though not only, murder instrument at Auschwitz. The ovens and burning pits were the method of disposing of the dead. The evidence presented in this study, whether it is documents, aerial photos or testimony, clearly shows that there was no shortage of facilities to accomplish this task.

I have sources for a reason

It's not that Hitler did nothing wrong, it's just that the mainstream narrative is shamelessly one-sided, which in turn makes people like you doubt everything.

I don't think ((( ))) wants to answer you.

HELP TAKE ACTION BY CONVINCING THE PUBLIC TO BROWBEAT ISRAEL INTO ACCEPTING REFUGEES AND MIGRANTS

>Holocaust was a hoax
Don't go that far
The deaths were x10 but it still happened

Why were all the "death camps" conveniently under the iron curtain for almost 50 years?

This move to Palestine was thought-up long before Hitler came to power.

Think of this; why is the "Shindlers' list" movie MANDATORY watching in USA high school history classes?

Now, look at my pic.

Jews were definitely rounded up and detained but they weren't genocided.

Ok that's nice but it doesn't answer my question.

I didn't state there were no facilities for burning corpses, I asked where are the images of the tremendous amount of coke required to burn as many corpses as claimed?

We have allied aerial photography of the "death" camps, we even have aerial photography of the "death" camps during times it is reported historically that many jews were being killed and burned, what we do not have is any evidence that the Nazis had the resources required to actually burn those corpses up.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dachau_concentration_camp

You can read yes?

>what we do not have is any evidence that the Nazis had the resources required to actually burn those corpses up.

hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab7-coke-coal-cremation/
>Though we don’t know the total amount of coke shipped to Auschwitz-Birkenau, we do know other important facts. Regarding the use of coke, Henryk Tauber, a member of one of the cremation Sonderkommando in Auschwitz-Birkenau, testified, “…we used the coke only to light the fire of the furnace initially, for fatty bodies burned of their own accord thanks to the combustion of the body fat. On occasion, when coke was in short supply, we would put some straw and wood in the ash bins under the muffles, and once the fat of the body began to burn the other bodies would catch light themselves.”[5] According to Tauber’s testimony, there was no direct correspondence between the amount of coke use and the number of corpses that could be burned. Once the fires were started, it did not take as much coke to burn more bodies.

>There is proof that the ovens were designed to reduce fuel usage if continuously operating. A critical piece of evidence comes from a Topf & Sons memo, dated March 11, 1943; Topf & Sons designed and manufactured the ovens used in Auschwitz-Birkenau. The memo, headed “Estimation of coke usage for Crematorium II K L,” suggested that the coke usage could be “reduced by one third” if the ovens were operating on a continuous basis.[6]

Furthermore, we know that coke was not always used for the disposal of corpses at Auschwitz-Birkenau. For example, in late 1944, the Nazis murdered between 8,000 and 10,000 Hungarian Jews per day. This was the peak of the so-called Hungarian Action and the number of bodies requiring cremation exceeded the daily capacities of the ovens. Open-air burning pits were dug behind Crema/Gas Chamber 5 and beside a cottage (which had operated as a gas chamber prior to the four dedicated gas chambers, which started operation in 1943).

>we used the coke only to light the fire of the furnace initially, for fatty bodies burned of their own accord thanks to the combustion of the body fat

>no zyklon in the auschwitz showers
the lie unravels...

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I said death camp not concentration camp

>1951
am I missing something

This is all you faggots got? Jesus Christ

No. Just posted it

I was never convcinced the ghost story was real in the first place. But the persistence of the lie despite the lack of proof, and all evidence pointing to the contrary, all the while millions of krauts slavs and japs DID die while these kikes profited from all of them and then took over via corporate plutocracy, has always made me be full on unwaveringly 14/88 with no regard for exception, mercy, or quarter. It is the only way to be, in order to be just with the truth of what has been going on. A fully white ethnostate devoid of any (((impurities))) is inevitable, and any who want try to get in the way will be dealt with.

Ultimately it's autistic to say the Holocaust never happened. Didn't go down like the history books say, but Hitler still killed a fucking ton of jews.

>trying to convince Sup Forumszombies of anything

There's no point. Every shred of evidence you'll produce will be marked as false, and all of their evidence, even if it's text written on a bathroom wall that said "THE HOLOCAUST WAS A HOAX", will be sold as the most credible possible source.

The fact of the matter is that these people will disregard the holocaust because they hate Jews. It's as simple as that.

Honestly if your best evidence they were able to burn that amount of bodies is an eyewitness testimony stating something we know is not possible (especially true of extremely emancipated people) then you haven't really presented an answer.

But why do they hate jews?

Why do you think they hate Jews?

Well, for starters I'm a jew.
Born of jews, but not religious.
But I still attended jewish classes that basically teach history and culture about Jewishness.
A lot of it was holocaust related.
We even went to the camps on a school trip. You'd think travelling to Europe would be an expensive school trip, not for jews.
I didn't really care much about it one way or another but I just took it for granted that it all had happened, everyone said it did, and it seemed "legit".
But of course as we all know the facts and the reliable history shows that nothing solid proves shit, and in fact it is proven that jews lied over and over about what had happened, and it fits with their behavior and tendencies.
So I came to the logical conclusion that it makes more sense that it is all bullshit built on top of a few real things than actually real.
How do I feel about it?

Scared, honestly.
They can make up something that insane and ridiculous and elaborate out of nowhere, they can lie to the whole world and make it so everyone just assumes it's true. They can make such a huge insane lie and profit of it with power and influence for decades.
It's like the whole world is just a farm and the jews are somehow above that level, they are the only ones that are really in control.
It's insane.
It really makes me feel hopeless about the future of humanity too.
But the fact that so many people are now finding the truth on their own is really good.
So maybe in the future thanks to the internet and people's access to unfiltered historical facts people will realize the truth.
But will it really happen?
Most people are idiots or cucks.
And jews are already working very hard to censor the internet.
They've managed to keep a lie for decades. So maybe they're just that good and they'll be able to keep it going forever.

Is that a child's foot? Thought he liked girls with gigantic Peggy Hill feet like Uma Thurman.

I believe in Holocaust, but, the thing that made me really sad was the following realization:

ENGLAND DECLARED WAR ON GERMANY.

It is not what Germany was looking for. They thought the anglos were bro tier, they just wanted to go rescue their folks from Poland. And then the bro attacked. Just imagine the feeling of betrayal.

>Over 4,000 Soviet prisoners of war were murdered by the Dachau commandant's guard at the SS shooting range located two kilometers from the main camp in the years 1942/1943.[20][21][22] These murders were a clear violation of the provisions laid down in the Geneva Convention for prisoners of war. The SS used the cynical term "special treatment" for these criminal executions. The first executions of the Soviet prisoners of war at the Hebertshausen shooting range took place on 25 November 1941.[23]

>Hundreds of prisoners suffered and died, or were executed in medical experiments conducted at KZ Dachau. Some of these experiments involved exposure to vats of icy water or being strapped down naked outdoors in freezing temperatures. Victims writhed in pain, foamed at the mouth, and lost consciousness. Attempts at reviving the subjects included scalding baths, and forcing naked women to copulate with the unconscious victim. Nearly 100 prisoners died during these experiments.[29] The original records of the experiments were destroyed "in an attempt to conceal the atrocities".[a][30] Extensive communication between the investigators and Heinrich Himmler, head of the SS, was discovered, providing documentation of the experiments.[31] High altitude experiments were conducted during 1942. Victims were subjected to rapid decompression to pressures found at 4,300 metres (14,100 ft) and experienced spasmodic convulsions, agonal breathing, and eventual death.[32]

Perhaps in a strictly technical sense. For practical purposes though we're being assaulted with this holocaust meme on a daily basis. Last video before I crashed last night, about China, the guy brings up the holocaust as a kind of axiomatic piece of canon to bolster other arguments. First thing this morning, it's Trumps speech in the news and more of this crap. Literally every day. It's a huge propaganda piece that intrudes into all sorts of different domains.

Very interesting. Thank you

you said they got gassed in Auschwitz

they did not: no gas!

that's literally all i need.

The fuck. We found the crematoriums and the open-air pits, they confessed, we have documents of them discussing the process. What the fuck do you want?

Do you want a photo of Hitler putting the Jews in the oven himself?

Let me ask you this: what would convince you of the Holocaust's veracity?

Can we get a second holocaust to remove these Alex jones level normie faggots from OUR POL?

building 7

The thing is, Holocaust is central to much of the fucky things that jews are doing right now. Every jew is taught that he is so oppressed and racism must be stamped out, nationalism is bad, etc, etc. It is the source from which we get globalism, multiculti, and everything.

But it was a matter of time: whether or not it happend the Holocaust is getting old. Nazis are dead. The taboo is being broken. Science is telling us that races are real and significant.

12 stages of grief for me

Do you subhumans even read my sources? I posted a link on the forensic evidence


That was an inside job user

Do you have pics of these "fat bodied Jews" of which you speak?
All of the jewcamp pics I've ever seen have people dying of starvation, less than 10% body fat.

Actually not allowed stirring up shit about it in a bunch of different countries. What a joke.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3770772/Prominent-German-neo-Nazi-convicted-Holocaust-denial.html

>We found the crematoriums and the open-air pits
I never said there were no crematoriums you spaz, as I stated before explicitly I don't believe the claim that they were used to burn as many bodies as claimed based on the logistical fact that the required amount of coke was not on hand.

Produce documents, images or some other proof showing they have the capability to actually burn as many bodies as claimed.

Before you reply you should note that eyewitness testimony is not valid evidence, as the Nuremberg trials clearly show.

I swear if they hadn't dropped the whole "electrical torture rooms" thing you'd be defending that too.

>National Socialism will earn eternal gratitude for exterminating the Jews in Germany and Central Europe
If the nazis were so proud of it, why isn't there a single document proving it? all the evidence you can produce is jewish recounts, it's an absolute joke.
>Germans were proud of exterminating jews
>Germans destroyed any evidence that it happened
Which one is it Schlomo? There is a massive lack of evidence and inconsistencies everywhere. Not to mention it's illegal to even question it in most places.
Even if you assume that it's true and if you're indoctrinated enough to believe the impossible 6 million figure, who really cares? There have been bigger, more brutal genocides than gassing kikes, so why must we be reminded if this one?
They have to dramatise it and make it the most cruel and evil event in human history, otherwise people might question it and discover the absolute ridiculousness of it all.

We all wish it was true, but it unfortunately isn't.

Look at the funded archaeological research at Treblinka not so long ago. Special tiles with the star of david, oh no! Whole thing along with other details is debunked in about 5 minutes. The story is unraveling.

I have the exact same feeling of hopelessness. I don't think the truth will ever reach mainstream accreditation. They [jews] have an absolute control over the media and therefore can shape public opinion at their whim.

Honestly, I think the only way we could shift this is to get rid of technology. Though it can be used for redpilling, it is mostly used for Marxist propoganda.

Generation after generation have been fed lies, which they will never question because they have no reason too. The only people redpills appeal to are on the fringe of society. People that don't quite fit in. At least, that's how I am, and I imagine most people who frequent Sup Forums

I don't think things will get better until there's some huge societal collapse. People simply won't find it in themselves to absorb world-view changing ideas unless there is a desperate need for change.

>just waiting for economic collapse
>then we can bring Natsoc back

>We found the crematoriums and the open-air pits

just no gas chamber, eh

>they confessed

If you put my balls in a vise, I'd sign the paper too.

wtf? i'm bogpilled now

i want porn of her so bad

>the only people redpills appeal to are on the fringe of society
>people simply won't find it in themselves to absorb worldview-changing ideas unless there is a desperate need for change

Very well said.

This desu. The Jews and media are constantly pushing much Holocaust and any questioning of it makes you some sort of loon. I mean people still believe the Nazis made Jew lamps and that's been debunked for a while and if they were willing to lie about the Jew lamp to exaggerate how bad the Holocaust was what else are they exaggerating/lying about

>Do you have pics of these "fat bodied Jews" of which you speak?
I have some doctored photos from the CIA.

>I don't believe the claim that they were used to burn as many bodies as claimed based on the logistical fact that the required amount of coke was not on hand.
You know this how?

>Produce documents, images or some other proof showing they have the capability to actually burn as many bodies as claimed.
You can check my links....just a thought. Unless you need me to literally hold your hand.

Pic related

I have a forensic report linked. And a debunk of your tortured testimony meme.

Get a grip. I've been following this for a while. There has never been this much skepticism about this nonsense. People are getting fed up with it. I've never killed any jews, I'm on good terms with several. Doesn't mean that I have to buy into this shit.

I thought it was funny tbqh.

Just to know that there are people so committed to the LARP, like this user

Cool story.

How about proving any of the other 19th century holocausts of le 6million Hues?

Ok how about this. To everyone here who denies commonly accepted aspects of the Holocaust: what do you need to change your mind? Do you want a photo, a journal entry, a forensic report, a confession, a videotape, an autopsy on a body?

>forensic report

Of what? Millions of gassed individuals. You don't because there's no such thing. Nuremburg trials were a farce. Made more of a farce since the principles that underpinned them haven't been adhered to by the prosecuting powers.

No evidence.

See

I want you to address why Gypsies are never mentioned, even when more of them died than Jews.

I want you to address the agenda, why do you wheel it out every few yerars?

Nobody cares anymore, even if it did happen.

Jews are the most privileged people on the entire planet, people are tired of it. The more you push on this, the more resentment you will foster.

>I saw the gas chambers

The "gas chambers" with windows and wooden doors.

>I saw the crematoria

That used super technology to work faster than today's ovens by orders of magnitude.

What about the Nazi wizards that shrunk jew corpses? Or the masturbation machines? Or the holocoaster?

>You know this how?
Aerial photographs and lack of Nazi documentation.

>You can check my links....just a thought. Unless you need me to literally hold your hand.
Or you could actually present your counterpoint, I dunno, crazy idea on a discussion board probably.

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>if the Holocaust actually happened and Hitler won the planet would probably be chugging along just fine and we wouldn't have to listen to this kvetching 24/7
>implying I care some Austrian wanted roast potatocake people ~60 years before I was born

Are you sure you're not a kike? because I'm pretty sure you're a kike.

youtube.com/watch?v=zKqu93-wGGE

You're going to need more than a random photo that often are mislabeled anyway to prove a physical impossibility. As the aussie has said itt the logistics of gassing and completely disposing of at least 4 million jews in a handful of death camps over a short period of time just doesn't add up. You're gonna need to have some big physical evidence on this one.

I don't want anything.
These same kikes funded the Russian revolution by shitposting the 6 million meme 30 years before this totally unrelated holocaust.
Its a running gag of 19th/20th century history for those who bother to read.

Dont worry, it'll happen one day.

Why should people feel sympathy for a race that sexually mutilates infants and then performs oral sex on the wound they just created?

Checked

I remember even as a 13 year old thinking "There must be more to Hitler and the Nazis than the bullshit they're telling me. People don't just do shit like that for no reason." It must have been fate for me to end up here.

I'm not a stormfag and don't consider myself a Nazi. I simply realize that the Germans, like most people throughout history, did what they had to do in their particular situation. It was a reaction against an attempted communist takeover and economic turmoil, and it worked well. If only he hadn't launched the invasions, Hitler would have been remembered as one of the greatest leaders in world history.

The holocaust happened, but the jews lied about the details.

How fucking dare you doubt the Führer.

Lol. Nice pic, bro.
Praise Kek.

>I want you to address why Gypsies are never mentioned even when more of them died than Jews.
I'd need a link on that

>I want you to address the agenda, why do you wheel it out every few yerars?
What agenda? I don't wheel out anything

>Nobody cares anymore, even if it did happen
Pol seems to. This board's entire meme arsenal is centered around Nazism and Holocaust jokes

>The more you push on this, the more resentment you will foster.
Most people accept the Holocaust user. Big shock, I know.

>You have to present your counterpoint
>I can't be bothered to scroll through a few links
>Nazi documentation and aerial photographs
Care to these photos and documents? I reserve the right to claim that their anti Semitic forgeries if it contradicts my narrative though

>Ok how about this. To everyone here who denies commonly accepted aspects of the Holocaust: what do you need to change your mind?

Stop forcing it down my throat every day, repeal all laws about questioning it, allow scientific research into the thing (chemical, forensic, whatever). Then win your argument on a level playing field.

That would be a bare minimum just to get the ball rolling.

That at a bare

Holy fuck Patton was redpilled.

He was fucking assassinated too.

What on gods green earth is going on in this world?!

Google it bro.

Why do you even care about convincing these people? You're talking to literal paranoid schizophrenics. Basement dwellers. Random grandpas that are quite literally white supremacists and spend all of their time posting on this website, legitimately want to genocide black people, and probably collect government bux.

The real question is why do you even care what these people think? It's not like these fags are history experts. They're just random shitheads that want their own headcanon to be true, regardless of what earnest inquiry shows.

The mind of a conspiracy theorist will always find more questions and more excuses not to believe. There is no such thing as a satisfactory or final answer. No amount of evidence would be enough.

>Links to (((wikipedia)))
>Links to (((The Atlantic)))
>Links to (((Holocuast Controversies))))

Fucking jew. How long do you maggots have left in the U.S. before you are thrown in camps again?

Lol

>Most people accept the Holocaust user. Big shock, I know.

People accept that the sun is the result of a nuclear reaction too.

That doesn't mean it's true.

what's the other explanation?

Stop trying to derail my thread, Schlomo. It didn't happen. My question was how did it make you feel to learn that it didn't happen. Go count your shekels somewhere else.

>You're talking to literal paranoid schizophrenics. Basement dwellers. Random grandpas

.. and you

This.
Holocaust denial is the worst thing to happen to anyone pro-Nazi. ((They)) make sure you believe in some crazy conspiratorial shit so even if all the other aspects of nationalism start to make sense, you still advocate something illogical.

Jews did it.

>Stop forcing it down my throat every day
I just talk about it on Sup Forums

>repeal all laws about questioning it
Unfortunately, Europeans have laws against denial of crimes against humanity. If it's any consolation, most of these laws cover things like the Armenian genocide as well. If it were up to me I would repeal these laws

>allow scientific research into the thing (chemical, forensic, whatever)
Some work has been done. You may not like the conclusion

>those digits
hot damn

Here's a good read on Patton and the JQ

>I have nothing to argue with so I am just going to call him schlomo lol i got him

OP just wait until you realize that a cabal of jewish doctors convinced society and your parents that circumcision had health benefits so they could have a nice lucrative side-hustle taking the schmeckle off your peckle, and then they figured out a way to sell your foreskin to make even more money. Holohoax ain't shit.

FPBP

I already derailed your thread Schlomo

I'm getting off now. Remember the Holocaust is a fact

Yeah, good thing there are guys like you out there that don't fall for the tricks. (((They))) can't get anything past you.

>obvious bait with yiddish title
those "shareblue" threads were super convincing too

Technology won't go back though, so if we want to avoid a complete blackpill scenario and cling to at least a bit of hope we have to accept a future with technology around.

And best case scenario actually involves pol, or rather, pol's influence in people.
Social media has really opened the doors to spreading all sorts of unrelated but important facts to people with memes and it might take a while but once they become accepted and the overton window is allowed to shift into embracing them it would not be such a stretch for people to start realizing the truth on their own.
But it's still a very long shot.
Trump already planted the seeds of distrust in the media.
And if he cucks his people on his agenda, which seems to be the case, they are going to be angry and frustrated.
And the anti PC sentiments are growing a lot.
This sets a perfect stage for a narrative revolution.

There are plenty of factors that can be introduced to people in short formats like memes, or with college speeches that are getting a lot of attention.
History, human biology of race and so on.
It seems like the pendulum has already swing as far as it can go in one direction so maybe it's time for the momentum to shift and it's our chance to introduce all of those ideas.

Hitler did nothing wrong. From a rabbis mouth himself

Rabbi redpills

youtube.com/watch?v=mucb6r8tFAI

source?