How do I explain to liberals that lowering taxes for the rich and corporations is a good thing?

How do I explain to liberals that lowering taxes for the rich and corporations is a good thing?

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Why are you entitled to more of their money?

You run a small business. Your tax rate goes from 35% to 15%. You can expand your company, afford to hire more workers, or charge less for your services.

Because money trickles down lmao

>the brain expands out into a whole 'nother universe inside of the hate

hat*
shit

what is ownership and why is built on an elitist legal system
what is the fallacy that people who 'own' everything did the work to create it
how can you justify ownership without the necessary personal labour as anything more than a common myth supported by ideologies designed to keep the powerful powerful
the goal of an institution is to reproduce itself
tax the rich they do not deserve anything worth more than the work they themselves can do
class war now

Productivity increases when workers are paid less and corporations are paid more
Gold standards are detrimental to the economy

and then the middle class becomes richer and then they start to tax the middle class more

>You run a small business
I run a small business. My tax rate is 0% because it's an S corp. S for "small".

You explain that it's a "good thing" for rich people. Don't be a pussy ass hypocrite. Be like Trump. He'd tell it like it is.

Quite often in the US people are screwed over by their own parties. Liberal college kids THOUGHT they were getting free healthcare when they voted Obama and got the bill for the free healthcare for the old and young. Conservatives in the middle of nowhere states will get fucked over if Trump passes the tax cuts because those broke ass states contribute less to the federal budget than they get back in benefits.

>Triquel down economics

They benefit more from the system than I do, so you should pay more.

They don't get food stamps, or welfare. But they do get to have big daddy government protect and negotiate their trade overseas, maintain the roads they ship their goods on, and provide education (and to a certain extent, healthcare) for their employees.

If corporations and rich renounce all that, I have no problem them providing their own road network, negotiate their trade with other countries and provide K-12 education for their employees. They can operate tax free.

hahahahahah

people still fall for the "trickle down" bullshit
Businesses are doing great...stocks through the roof...how much more money do these fuckers need?

How many yachts do you think the wealthy will buy? Give the money to the middle class

Just point to the awesome economy we had under George W Bush. Trump is going to be even better!

yes, lets take from the most productive people in society who provide all our jobs, wealth, technology, and eventually force them out of society! this wont have any negative effect on the economy!

the middle class is getting jobs because businesses and evil.CO can afford to hire them and invest more. the money comes to you when you do shit for the rich people.

people don't understand that govt expenditures never decrease --they only increase and so it follows that it makes literally no difference whether u tax the corps or the middle class it's just re-allocation . u tax corps more , they will hire less, u tax corps less, they will hire more but the they will tax the middle class more

this.
trickle down economics work. look at how Israel's economy is growing. we need to model our country after theirs.

>its called a paradigm shift
instead of assuming greed and pandering to the wealthy (which is why corporations are the most powerful institutions in the world)
you refuse to participate in their worldview
capitalism has fucked this planet and we are heading for extinction
there are too many of us

this. and this might be why this bill is going to be one of the most important for Trumps admin. we need to start supporting him on this and calling out the shills

these are right
this guy is a shill

capitalism always rebounds the destruction made by government intervening in our trade and taking our property to stuff their pockets and give to their friends. we dont have debt because of capitalism, we have it because of the government trying to manage resources and spending way too much money. corporate bail outs are stupid and not natural to competitive markets, and neither are high taxes. when a corporation gets taxed do you think the top of the chain foots the bill? they fire workers and cut the workers bonuses to keep their own money. capitalism is the most efficient resource management system we have right now and government intervention just stops capitalism from creating wealth in our country.

yeah.... lick their asses you dumbfuck and get a dollar.

>I run a small business. My tax rate is 0% because it's an S corp. S for "small".

>what is pass through taxation

A 15% corporate tax rate + 15% dividend tax rate is objectively better then your shitty pass through tax. This will make S corp / LLC obsolete

The tax rate would technically be lower, but to my understanding, many of the loopholes and deductions that corporations currently receive that enable them to pay NOTHING in taxes would be closed.

nope don't be silly I'm just bored
corporations are illegitimate entities that should not be enshrined in law. they encourage greed and destroy accountability, as you have shown.
honestly, i agree that capitalism is the only working method now but that is because it has encouraged greed, unsustainable growth and reproduction, created huge societies that promote hatred and inequality as humans literally cannot deal with the thousands of people we have to interact with socially and so resort to stereotyping.
capitalism is self propagating. it is a virus and it has destroyed this planet.
hopefully 10,000 or so of us will survive and we can build the society we're meant to live in
>inb4 bullshit arguments about human nature being greed and that you can't fight it
completely egalitarian 'primitive' societies exist but it is impossible in the late scale societies capitalism created

>work and create to get ahead in society
>get called a bootlicker by a german who subsidizes dog killers and goat fuckers who refuse to work

freudian slip

>You can expand your company,
only if demand rises for my product

>afford to hire more workers,
only if demand rises for my product

>or charge less for your services.
I'm going to buy out my competetion by giving them a deal they'd be crazy to refuse :^)

why do we keep doing the same thing over and over again

>unsustainable growth
in africa the unsustainable growth is from foreign aid which is separate from capitalism. and sure we produce excess wealth that we cant even use, but why is that worse than not producing enough?
>promote inequality
if you read a book or develop a skill then you are unequal. inequality is me being better or worse than someone at something which is a naturally occuring phenomenon and capitalism encourages you to specialize your inequalities for more wealth.
>stupid marxist retarded bullshit about racism and stereotyping
those existed in anarchy, mercantilism, feudalism, communism, capitalism, mixed market economies, and corporatism. why the hell are you blaming capitalism for it? its a phenomenon that happens outside of capitalism.
>hopefully 10000 of us will survive and build society we are meant to live in
capitalism has given much more worth to creating because building something has material worth instead of sacrificial worth. the society you live in has so little suffering now compared to the past because people got more efficient and saw a profit incentive to fix suffering and fill needs of society. thats why mercantilism and imperialism were so useful in the development of america and we are only growing faster under a mixed market economy.

>implying you can only hire people long term and they have to work in your company
you can hire electricians or plumbers or something that work for a month to increase the workers standards in your buildings.

>material worth
what is material worth?
the underlying assumption is that people need incentives of personal gain to do anything and the philosophy of capitalism was to harness that to create growth, which makes everyone wealthier and make the world a better place. however capitalism has only benefitted the nations who originally employed it and fucked the rest of the world.
whilst self-interest existed before capitalism, the absolute centrality of personal material gain as the only incentive to create was created and reproduced by capitalism through its function.
i am arguing that humans do not have to live this way; although i think that is near impossible now as there are too many people on the planet

Have you ever gone to a poor person to ask for a job?
Class envy is evil.

Because the rich are powerful enough to avoid any kind of tax shit we throw at them.

Every socialist idea starts with the same flawed premise: That increasing taxes on the rich will help the poor at the riches expense.

This is incorrect. What actually happens is increasing taxes on the rich TEMPORARILY helps the poor, at the expense of THE MIDDLE CLASS. The rich continue to buy politicians or just move their assets out of country, while the poor and middle class merge into a uniform "lower middle class" where everyone makes just barely enough to get by but never enough to have any real power. Then the government ( controlled by the rich ) comes in and starts exploiting citizens lack of power to impose totalitarian rules.

When leftists claim "That would never happen!" you then open a history book of communism and socialism to show them that this has literally happened 100% of the time it was tried in the past.

>Have an idea
>Have other people help you bring your idea to fruition
>Pay those people very little and deny them benefits
>Pay some of those people to protect you
>Pay society leaders not to get involved
>People start dying from disease and starvation
>People start killing the business owners and the corrupt leaders
So happy this cycle is inescapable

Dick head, it's not really for the large corps, it's for the small ones. It's about building wealth and preventing brain drain. See Venezuela.

Also, federal spending (debt) has ZERO correlation to federal income (taxes).

Once you learn that, you will be amazed that we made it this long to begin with.

Relevant for all you socialist morons.

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>The exact same post from earlier

Please get the fuck out shill. Take this shit to Reddit.