Russians are generally seen somebody to be pointed at as an example of backwardness and I'm sure many Russians (as many Eastern Europeans) feel this way, and they are seen as serfs who bow down before the elites and authorities
And then suddenly Ruskies pull off a Revolution of historic significance, so they went even further than the West with marxism and socialism. Does this make them proud?
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They are just proud of their victory in WW2. They are not proud of the hunger, corruption or massive censorship apparatus.
If i was Russian I would be ashamed of communism and Bolshevism. It gives me great honor and happiness knowing my country fought an ideological war to bomb and kill as many communists as possible
>If i was Russian I would be ashamed of communism and Bolshevism
>If i was Russian I would be ashamed
>If i was Russian
>if
can you imagine answering without a hypothetical?
it's easy if you can.
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>to bomb and kill as many communists as possible
but your country is itself becoming more and more communist mate, chants for equality, increasing atheism, strict control of the words you should use in the media
Most Bolsheviks were Jews. So many Jews that the first modern Jewish state was not Israel, but the Soviet Union.
we literally just elected Donald Trump, and neo nazi LARPers are about to have a showdown at Berkley, don't write us off yet bro
>bolsheviks
No. I hate them
>Stalin
A necessary evil. Few other men could have single handedly won a war like that
>achievements of USSR
Yes we are proud because theres a lot to be proud of
>we literally just elected Donald Trump
And 70% of offices and high economic positions are held by globalists or marxists, pls, Trump doesn't matter that much
You are fucking retarded.
There were a lot of Khazars that converted to Judaism and that whole area was Eastern Europe. Where is Russia? EASTERN EUROPE.
I found the explanation in, what, 2 SECONDS?!
It seems to me after reading Dugin and talking to Ruskies that everything they do, including communism, is solely done in opposition of the West because "they know they are different". So West is capitalist, Russia becomes communist. The West is liberal democracy, Russia embraces traditionalism. West is globalist, Russia is nationalist.
They seem eternally butthurt about every historical slight too, from Japan not signing a peace treaty, to Ukraine. If they weren't so worried about opposing America at every chance they'd probably be a lot better off. But they can't stop being butthurt.
Russia, why the eternal butthurt?
>reading Dugin
Thats where you went wrong kiddo
>Few men could have single handedly won a war like that
The fuck are you smoking? a fucking retard could have won the war with Russia's manpower.
Answer my questions pls
Dugin's not the Mastermind people make him out to be but is important
If the current zeitgeist of Russia is anything to go by, no.
>Russians are a little proud of Bolsheviks, aren't they?
No, they're not.
download and watch the movie Cheka (aka The Checkist)
> implying they weren't desperate for any alternative to a shithole.
>leaf
>he is important
He really isnt. Only known on Sup Forums.
Whats your question exactly
>Single handedly
STUDEBAKER TRUCK.
thats you have to say to a Russian when they start spouting " WE WON THE WAR WITHOUTNANYONES HELP GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR RUSSIA GREATEST OF ALL TIME"
Fuck you. We should of just let the Germans knock your rotting house down.
watch this:
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understand, the Bolsheviks were NOT russians, and most real russians today know the truth (at least half) about "the revolution" and they DON'T like the Bolsheviks.
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>Few other men could have single handedly won a war like that
Look, I understand the Merrica won the war sentiment is stupid and it's mostly just trolling on our part, but ascribing to the manlet of steel is so pants on retarded it blows my fucking mind. If literally anyone other than Stalin ran the USSR during WWII, the Germans would have never made it to Moscow. He's just lucky that Hitler was an even bigger imbecile.
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Please, don't pollute this thread with your shallow, dumb agit-prop. Yes we know communists were jewish, that doesn't change the fact that among communists you can find russian intelligentsia, aristocracy, lawyers, journalists, doctors, military officers etc. fuck off with your jewish obsession
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>video of Putin confirming they were Jews
The sheer thought of Bolshevism makes me ill.
I respect the Cold War USSR because I believe they did the best with what they had, but communism drives me insane. Every day I mourn the fact that the Whites lost and imperial Russia was done with forever. Such a majestic empire.
Bolsheviks recruited their army from a neglected, filled with hate and demoralized lumpen proletariat, why would they give a fuck about Jews being in charge
read up on Lazar Kaganovich
Yeah we won. Sure you definately helped. But lets not pretend you were the deciding factor
>but ascribing to the manlet of steel is so pants on retarded it blows my fucking mind. If literally anyone other than Stalin ran the USSR during WWII, the Germans would have never made it to Moscow
Few other people would have been prepared to sacrifice this much. But yes you are right in a way. Most of the credit goes to the generals, especially Zhukov- the only man Stalin could not kill.
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>"a jewish empire"
Look up Genrikh Yagoda
this is true, sadly. But it was commie jew bankers in NY and Schlomo Commies in USSR that did it through infiltration. Don't blame the WASPs (aside from those faggot (((freemasons)))). I guess slow but steady truly does win the race. When we flip full commie, we deserve to be destroyed.
It was simply a genocide against the White population of Russia.
You're fooling yourelves if you believe most Russians today think kindly of the (((revolutionaries)))
white genocide
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they loved slaughtering the Russians!
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Stalin was a massive hinderance to the Soviet military, if anything. All he ever did was purge competent generals like a fucking idiot.
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what is: the russian civil war?
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>muh gazillion death
>source some shitty (((western))) book
>Few other people would have been prepared to sacrifice this much
Yeah, letting millions of other men die in your place. A real hero.
White population of Russia=/= White army.
What the fuck are you even on about.
USSR communism was nothing like what cultural marxism is now. Family values were encouraged but at the same time women working was very tolerated. It wasnt treated as anything special or out of the ordinary. Nobody forced them (except for during ww2) Not something worthy of mass attention- a non issue.
That is why Russia now has twice the female workers in STEM fields than all other European countries.
Theres no stigma against it nor for it.
My family left because of those faggots.
no quarter for commie subhumans
Yes. So many people still fall for "industrialisation", "great army" and other baits. Like we all would still be sitting on trees without all that.
>Yeah, letting millions of other men die in your place. A real hero.
What are you saying exactly? Stalin alone is worth a million men? It was necessary sacrifice for victory. He let his own son die
you went from this to space and atom bomb in less than 30 years stupid Ivan
Due the Russia winning the WW2, the victory itself became part of the "nationalism" and identity of the people and country, so it needed to be justified later. Thus today it's very taboo to openly speak out postiviely about the Nazis, and to speak against the Jews - which also means that "officially" it's not good to talk bad about the Bolsheviks /as jews/, so few people do that... but many Russians DO think the Bolsheviks were bad.
>russian
>Joined the war AFTER Russians started the countoffensive , after full blood massacre for 3 years stright
>Dares to talk shit
Yeah fuck off kike bottom
Typical yid manner.
See who wins and join them
>Russian Revolution
It was a Jewish revolution. Tens of millions of Russians & Christians were killed because of them.
Modern Russia is based exactly because they curtailed that Jewish influence and managed to recover in the last decades.
>Putin: Soviet Government Was Mostly Jewish 80-85%
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>Winston Churchill exposes forces behind Communism
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The Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party:
Krylenko Russian
Lounatcharski Russian
Ulyanov (Lenin) JEW
Bronstein (Trotsky) JEW
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) JEW
Lourie (Larine) JEW
Ouritski JEW
Volodarski JEW
Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) JEW
Smidovitch JEW
Sverdlof (Yankel) JEW
Nakhamkes (Steklof) JEW
The Council of the People’s Commissars:
Foreign Affairs Tchitcherine Russian
Nationalities Djugashvili (Stalin) Georgian
Agriculture Protian Armenian
Public Instruction Lounatcharsky Russian
Ulyanov (Lenin) JEW
Economic Council Lourie (Larine) JEW
Food Schlichter JEW
Army & Navy Bronstein (Trotsky) JEW
State Control Lander JEW
State Lands Kauffman JEW
Works V. Schmidt JEW
Social Relief E. Lelina (Knigissen) JEWess
Religions Spitzberg JEW
Interior Apfelbaum (Zinovief) JEW
Hygiene Anvelt JEW
Finance Isidore Goukovski JEW
Press Volodarski JEW
Elections Ouritski JEW
Justice I. Steinberg JEW
Refugees Fenigstein JEW
Refugees (assist.) Savitch JEW
Refugees (assist.) Zaslovski JEW
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>necessary sacrifice
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ruining your military and fighting like morons with idotic tactics and poorly constructed gear is "necessary" now.
Neck yourself, commie faggot.
In the west, sure. Dugin wields tremendous influence in the Russian military and state.
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>The Talmudic basis of Jewish supremacy
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>The leaders of Communism are all Jews
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>The Secret Holocaust - The real holocaust was a Christian Holocaust by Jews of sixty-six million, mostly Christians
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>Antony C. Sutton - Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution
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>The Secret Holocaust - The real holocaust was a Christian Holocaust by Jews of sixty-six million, mostly Christians
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What's your opinion on Stalin op?
Personally he was necessary for Thd soviet Union Winning the War
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The Moscow did. The rest of Soviet union sucked dick in poverty like it always did in past 150 years.
Imperial Russia was literally better than USSR.
Russians fought the bolsheviks - whites, cossacks. Bolsheviks were financed and supported by western kikes. And bolsheviks used all kjnds of mjnorities like balts, they didn't have actual support by Russians.
Bolsheviks unfortunatelly won, they purged all patriots and intellectuals. Some escaped, there are plenty of examples, you can look them up. And they've made contribution to the West, instead of their homeland thanks to commies. Bolsheviks destroyed Russian culture and faith. They divided the people and forced fake identities upon people, like Ukraine for example. Common people got repressed starved and brainwashed.
And that's how you have modern Russian, who doesn't know his true history and is proud of the kike coup, which is ironically called Russian revolution. On top of that there's a kike mummy in the center of Russian capital, that's probably the biggest humiliation in the history.
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A victory is a victory. I dont really care about your expert tactical military experience like you could have done better
>Dugin wields tremendous influence in the Russian military and state
He really doesnt. Hes nobody. It's literally a Sup Forums meme.
This pseudo intellectual has never had any significant influence
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>On 12 January 1931, Stalin gave the following answer to an inquiry on the subject of the Soviet attitude toward antisemitism from the Jewish News Agency in the United States:
>National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism.
>Anti-semitism is of advantage to the exploiters as a lightning conductor that deflects the blows aimed by the working people at capitalism. Anti-semitism is dangerous for the working people as being a false path that leads them off the right road and lands them in the jungle. Hence Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but be irreconcilable, sworn enemies of anti-semitism.
>>In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty.
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>holohoax
Kek. Btw Stalin burned Jews
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Aren't you the wame leaf that denies the holocaust?
I should be proud of assholes who sent my family to Kazakhstan, Gulag with no real reason and so on?
this shill in every nazi/commie thread shilling harded than Goebbels
RT recently has had a "2017: relive the revolution" banner on their website, so I'm guessing in general russians are very proud of their bolshevik history.
I think part of it is that all the hard working russians like the kulac's died in the gulags, so all the failures and dregs of society who survived don't view communism as a bad thing.
Assassinate- murder people is bad, Communist or not.
Of course some people got hidden agenda when they frame communist =murder.
Most communist are as useless and pathetic as they can be, unless they are part of a progressive movement. But that apply for everyone not just communist.
I dont like Communism, but the past is the past, the Bolshevik also.
And it's not like there isnt good people in USSR. like people in USSR space program (who advanced Russia hundred year ahead) and Lenin, who tried to turn his head towards capitalism in his new economic plan (sadly failed when being replaced with Stalin)
I find the fact he believes a holocaust of the Ukrainians, but denies the holocaust cause by the nazis perplexing.
Russians are proud of winning WWII, and being a superpower for decades after that.
Georgians and particularly Georgian Jews, are proud of Stalin. Jews in-general are very sympathetic to communists.
One of the greatest ironies I witnessed was a Jewish business owner complaining that "If we were communist, we'd be done (with his work) hours ago."
The difference is that it's practically illegal to investigate the Holocaust, or even deny it in some countries.
In the case of the communist massacres, it's not, it's open for everyone to see. If anything, because of Jewish control of the media and political establishments, I wouldn't be surprised if the death count is underestimated in some places.
Putting has some good leadership qualities but the love he and Russians get is abit overkill. Go on youtube on their national anthem song videos and such. Many of them still want to bring communism back.
*Putin
Yes that's what Russian empire was, only peasants. And it wouldn't change without communism. And in USSR all these peasants were first of all starved en masse and then kept as slaves. You literally couldn't leave your village, because you had no documents. After Stalin it changed yes, but it was still complete shit.
also the first part of the thread he is shilling under sweden flag.
>Every.single.fucking.thread.for.atleast.a.week.
Most of the propaganda about the "Holocaust" is exactly because of Soviets & the Jews involved in their regime and America's.
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>In a dramatic and unprecedented videotaped interview, Dr. Franciszek Piper, senior curator and director of archives of the Auschwitz State Museum admitted on camera that 'Krema 1,' the alleged 'homicidal gas chamber' shown off to hundreds of thousands of tourists every year at the Auschwitz main camp, was, in fact, fabricated after the war by the Soviet Union -apparently on the direct orders of Josef Stalin.
Any anons here from the thread yesterday about Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's book?
No, but you can't write it off as a flash in the pan. It's ok, now. It's ok to vote a nationalist or populist into power, and people are refusing to pretend to be stupid, to be apathetic, to be bullied by leftist social engineering.
The entire globalist system is one famine / depression away from collapsing into populist and right-wing warfare. We're more divided and ready to fight now than we were during the Great Depression, and we're fed and employed. Now, it's just one economic downturn away.
So, one thing that's important to remember is this:
the Rus Gov's official "policy", for the sake of appearance, and also more importantly for the sake of maintaining the whole mythology of "we totally were on the right side of history - nazis were the most evil guys ever and we defeated them, yay russia, urahh!" - because that's the policy and part of the official story, Rus media mostly is either neutral or positive about the "Revolution" and very seldom speaks badly about the Bolsheviks as that would cast light on the fact they were Jewish, which can't happen because of how WW2 and Nazis being the bad guys...
Therefore on the surface when checking RT or or russian news, it may seem that Russians like the Bolsheviks more than they actually do. And of course state-conducted opinion polls etc are gonna show results which helps keep intact the previously mentioned "mythology" of historical events being right and good, with the goal of preventing people from losing their nationalism.
I remember reading like 10 years ago Putin saying something with bascially the meaning "Yeah Lenin was bad, but we can't just suddenly remove Lenin's mausoleum because large portions, particularly older, people view him positively..."
The government's position on the matter of past events 100-50 years ago, it seems to be that they'll wait until almost all people are ready for the change. Until then the Gov won't change the official policy. There's still many old people in Russia, but after they're gone you can expect the Gov's position to loosen up more. But there's also the fact that it simply is *useful* to keep the current policy as it binds the nation together. But in the future that will become counterproductive as almost nobody will believe anymore that the Bolsheviks were good or even "okay" guys
Gulag Archipelago? It's all kind of "muh Shoah"-y, but when you look at the wholesale brutality of the nkvd under Yezhov and Beria, nothing else really compares, considering the Mongol accounts are numerically shoddy and it's hard to get a sense of humanity out of the vague east.
To me nazis, fascists, bolsheviks including Stalin are scum, I just don't like mobs and slobs. I like people who have the mentality of medieval knights
Yes, because they were powerful, and they didn't have to deal with capitalism which, for them, has not been going well, until recently. If you went from owning over half the world, politically and militarily, to digging through a dumpster and being laughed at by foreigners as backward non-whites, you'd want that system and leadership back. As it stands, Pooty-Poot is the closest they've gotten to a Khrushchev. no wonder they love him so much.
But they fought the neglectful intelligentsia and bourgeoise who despised Russians anyway. In fact, intelligentsia and bourgeoise paved the way for bolsheviks with their attack on faith and morality
Medieval knights usually led mobs of toothless, illiterate peasants.
No we're not proud of filthy marxists
But USSR's legacy post '41 is still Russian, along with all its achievements
Right. Most Russians don't think kindly of the Bolsheviks and many nowadays know about their ethnicity, it's especially common among teens and those in their 20's and 30's.
The majority is rather silent though, still.