Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Ryan Adams
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Carter Howard
don't you have anything better to do with your life?
Jose Russell
How's Venezuela doing???
Caleb Carter
>philosphy of gib and starve
Stop commrade, my sides - my fucking sides....
Carter Howard
You again David?
Brayden Miller
just end you misarable existence you pathetic fucking faggot
Caleb Thomas
> to meet social need Russians kinda starved though
Ethan Peterson
Best bost much good
Daniel Butler
>Russians kinda starved though all commie states starved
Henry Sanchez
fucking kek
Jace Fisher
Stalin: We're liquidating the class of affluent peasants. Kulaks: Nah. Stalin: Ok, then you're being relocated within the USSR. Kulaks: >slaughter all their livestock and eat them Stalin: Ok go to Gulag. Stalin: Now to replace them with incompetent farmers with no agricultural knowledge. >Starvation >This added to ongoing drought
Sup Forums: It's communism's fault! Definitely not the combined idiocy of a retarted leader and a pissy class that wouldn't share their fucking grain. Communism makes you starve!!11!!
Leo Peterson
>implying commies ever get smart leadership
Noah Hernandez
If only the ussr was our only example of communists starving people to death....
Bentley Diaz
By your own admittance it was caused by Stalin's interference.
Hunter Rodriguez
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Austin Powell
If only there was a single example of Marxism being followed to a T (worker owned means of production, liquidation of all classes other than working class, moneyless society, stateless society, not just a shitty leader calling their socialist country a communist one.) that didn't have either an ongoing drought, outside influence, or shitty leadership that still failed.
Jaxon Anderson
Communism literally lets people who do fuck all to take away from those who do something. You can work your shitty minimum wage job but don't expect society to pay for your car, rent, food and anything you want. You literally steal from people who are actually productive and achieve more and more every year. Fuck off with the whole idea of a equal society. People are not equal. Sit on your ass and smoke weed/watch tv all day/jack off to anime if you want, just don't get in the way of people who actually try to achieve more and get more out of life. It's retarded in theory and immoral in practice. Bugger off back to candyland that is your view of life.
Hunter Edwards
SECOND POST BEST POST
Jose Jackson
>implying nazis as capitalists
chart discarded
Nathan Jones
Of course they were.
Jace Powell
>Discarding extensive list of several famines because of a single error
Ok buddy
Zachary Nelson
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Easton White
where did this meme come from
In the UK if you dont work, you get forced into a little public housing apartment and forced to live off like 70 pound a week.
In the USSR, they packed you off to the middle of nowhere, forced you into a little public housing apartment and forced you to eat stewed cabbage until you decided maybe you wanted to work again. (This is how many of the small villages and towns in Siberia were populated, as part of an attempt to colonise some of the inhospitable parts of Sibera. True fact.)
Either way, you can 'Live' without working, but you wont be living very well in either society.
Wyatt Gray
>being a retarded communist posting retarded revisionist spins and denial even commies know is wrong and not compareable to the shit commies caused >Im just a single error
Ok buddy
Daniel Perry
If the workers can do everything a boss can why don't they start their own business?
Owen Smith
>Liquidation of all classes other than working class
So....murder?
Gabriel Phillips
Do you not know what liquidation of a class means?
Rather than just killing, it's the collectivization of property and their means of production (if they're a capitalist) and integrating them into the workforce.
Henry Brooks
>cappy Can't you get your own memes instead of just copying what other people do?
Samuel Gomez
Everything I've said can be confirmed by looking on Wikipedia. And no, tankies just deny the famine happened at all.
Jacob Bennett
What happens when someone falls below or above the working class and refuses to leave?
Aaron Lee
Within an ideal communist society, that wouldn't happen since a class structure would be abolished, but if someone hoarded grain for example and refused to comply, they would either be relocated, have their grain collectivized, or sent to a Gulag. It would be preferable if they weren't killed, but in the past more dictatorial leaders decided that it would be a good idea for some reason.
Jayden King
So murder or imprisonment for above and what about below. If I just refuse to work?
Matthew Wilson
And I'm not sure what you mean by below, but if you mean someone is struggling in terms of food they would be given some?
Jose Hernandez
No, not murder or imprisonment, you ignored most of what I said. They would be relocated to other parts of the USSR or have their grain collectivized first. If there's continued issues then they would be imprisoned. You know, like how every other country regardless of economic system works. With jails. And law breaking.
Also, someone above me explained what would happen if one refused to work.
Levi Cruz
Refusal to work. They have nothing wrong with them. They just refuse to join the working class.
Liam Ortiz
This shitty copypasta thread again.
No-one here is a communist nor will we ever be.
Kayden King
>no beeple. No food. No money. Much benis
Fucking kek
Carter Lopez
But im a stalin-totalist. :(((((((((((((((
Adrian Bailey
A nazbol?
Juan Cooper
>not murder or imprisonment Aaand two seconds later... >if they continue to hoard too much grain they will be imprisoned
Elijah Thompson
>2017 >communists Aren't you ashamed of yourself? You are probably marginalised by everybody except your likewise friends, nobody valid in the world has any credits remaining for communism and you are still not embarrassed for posting your shitty pasta here every day. In the whole ex communist world you can get beaten up today praising the old communist days, the workers you want to represent so much finds you disgusting, your idealogy is locked up in universities with academics without any links remaining to the real world and their pussy romantic students, nobody else.
also saged
Oliver Carter
Let me clarify.
Not ///only/// murder or imprisonment.
Hence "so murder and imprisonment for above", clearly disregarding the other options I stated.
Nathaniel Lopez
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Andrew Gutierrez
Yet you have no other options for people who continue to break your rules. The only way to truly follow Marxism is to eliminate people who step outside the working class.