Quite big & positive news that 99% of Sup Forums will not care about
>In a common declaration, signed by Pope Francis and Coptic Pope Tawadros II, Catholics and Copts declare for the first time that they will recognise each other’s sacrament of baptism.
Very far I would say. We're talking about dogma here.
Samuel Long
Probably still quite far. These things have to be done slowly. I imagine some Copts will be uneasy with it and it'll take some time after each step to show there was nothing to be worried about
Lucas Morales
Does someone have a good podcast? I love listening to podcasts while working out but I miss a nice faith-related one.
Gavin Nelson
If something is true just because it's ancient and written down then what about the epic of Gilgamesh?
I encourage all to read the epic of Gilgamesh, from ancient Mesopotamia, if nothing else it is entertaining.
Camden Adams
Don't know of any podcasts, but there's a lot of stuff on youtube as said. I especially recommend the fidelium channel
>Ratzinger notes that a study of the origins of the creation texts in the Wisdom literature especially reveal that they were written to respond to the Hellenistic civilization confronted by the Israelites. 13 Thus, it is not surprising that the human authors of these accounts did not use the image of the six days to assert their faith in the one Creator God. This image would not have been appropriate for their time and would not have been understood by their Greek contemporaries. In contrast, a study of the origins of the Hexaemeron, the six-day account of creation, found in the first chapter of Genesis reveals that it was written to respond to the seemingly victorious Babylonian civilization confronted by the Israelites several centuries before their encounter with the Greeks. Here, the human author of the sacred text used images familiar to their pagan contemporaries to refute the Enuma Elish, the Babylonian creation account that claimed that the world was created when Marduk, the god of light, killed the primordial dragon. 14 Thus, as Cardinal Ratzinger points out, it is not surprising that nearly every word of the first creation account addresses a particular confusion of the Babylonian age. For instance, when the Sacred Scriptures affirm that in the beginning, the earth was without form and void (cf. Gen. 1:2), the sacred text refutes the existence of a primordial dragon. When they refer to the sun and the moon as lamps that God has hung in the sky for the measurement of time (cf. Gen. 1:14), the text refutes the divinity of these two great celestial bodies believed to be Babylonian gods.
Second this. Also would recommend works of Fr. John A. Ryan & Arthur Penty
Nathaniel Cox
"Since then these things are manifest to us, and we have looked into the depths of the divine knowledge, we ought to do in order all things which the Master commanded us to perform at appointed times. He commanded us to celebrate sacrifices and services, and that it should not be thoughtlessly or disorderly, but at fixed times and hours. He has Himself fixed by His supreme will the places and persons whom He desires for these celebrations, in order that all things may be done piously according to His good pleasure, and be acceptable to His will. So then those who offer their oblations at the appointed seasons are acceptable and blessed, but they follow the laws of the Master and do not sin. For to the high priest his proper ministrations are allotted, and to the priests the proper place has been appointed, and on Levites their proper services have been imposed. The layman is bound by the ordinances for the laity."
Source: St. Clement, bishop of Rome, 80 A.D., to the Corinthians
"Our sin will not be small if we eject from the episcopate those who blamelessly and holily have offered its Sacrifices."
Source: Letter to the Corinthians, [44,4]
Protestants hate this
Camden Sullivan
All non-Catholics hate this [pic related]
Tyler Sullivan
Barren Metal the book is good too but it costs like $70 on Amazon
>Quadragesimo anno >The encyclical describes in considerable detail a desired tripartist corporatist social structure in which government, industry, and labor work together in concert as part of a third way between capitalism and communism. Corporatism was widely adopted in the fascist nations of Catholic Europe, including the regimes of António de Oliveira Salazar in Portugal, Benito Mussolini in Italy, Francisco Franco in Spain, and Engelbert Dollfuss in Austria. The Communist left regarded the encyclical as a partisan document, in which the Pope gave his blessing to the Fascist regimes.
BASED
Luis Bell
kek, /christian/ is a catholic board, go back there and suck off the cuckvol
Dominic Rogers
>is this your holy book? No, this 66 books long canon made up by Martin Luther and Filip Melanchton around 1545 and then adapted by the Anglicans in 1611 is NOT my holy book.
I was reading this book, and it seems Saint John Paul II warned us about Gender Ideology in 2003. fugg :DD
Brody Gutierrez
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Carter Russell
Corporatism and solidarism remain valid Catholic social teachings. The Church's problem with Fascist regimes is they became too totalitarian.
Isaiah Perry
Cardinal Sarah Pope?
Hudson Walker
He is based. And the media would have to pretend he isnt because otherwise they are racist
Angel Green
I worded my post poorly but yes Fascist regimes quickly turn to shit
Kayden Ward
We need a more traditional Pope after Francis and Cardinal Sarah could be that guy, the media would have a hard time but they'll still try to slander him because they just can't stand the church.
Thanks for sharing these videos, just watched Bishop Sheen for the first time
John Reed
Fresh based Cardinal Sarah
>“The Church is gravely mistaken as to the nature of the real crisis if she thinks that her essential mission is to offer solutions to all the political problems relating to justice, peace, poverty, the reception of migrants, etc.
In God or Nothing back in 2013, His Eminence already mentioned that, about how the church charity programs were forgetting to feed people spiritually as well.
I don't have cable but I watch their content on Youtube. Haha yeah, it does seem kinda poor like it's barely staying alive but it's the largest Religious network in the World in tv, radio, online, and they bought the National Catholic Register Newspaper years ago. I guess there's a difference to quality on tv and the Internet but the channel was started by Mother Angelica single-handily in a garage in Alabama. They put good stuff and I like listening to Mother Angelica, I think she was a wise woman
>In 1995, on the occasion of the 100th anniversary of cinema, the Vatican compiled a list of 45 "great films". The 45 movies are divided into three categories: religion, values, and art.
>but it's the largest Religious network in the World in tv, radio, online, and they bought the National Catholic Register Newspaper years ago. >I guess there's a difference to quality on tv and the Internet but the channel was started by Mother Angelica single-handily in a garage in Alabama.
I am legitimately surprised how all of this checks out to be true. The monastery garage studio too. I suppose that it began with monks explains the poverty of it all but they are doing a ridiculously good job through it. Excellent stuff.
I actually don't know much of Mother Angelica but I know she is popular. I'll have to look into her work.
Samuel Ward
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I like the "Coming Home" show they broadcast too. It's converts from other religions and beliefs talking about why they became Catholic and it's always interesting what they have to say about their former beliefs and entering into the Catholic Church
>tfw you realise the church were the good guys the whole time
Thomas Hughes
>From the pastebin Beauty of Creation
This is an ever-growing list of videos, stories, and images of all creation, life, and the world. Enjoy them as they are, despite the small list we're starting with. Feel free to recommend additions to the list on Catholic or Christian Generals.
This is an ever-growing list of videos and stories that touching, sweet, and relevant to Catholic Generals as they are all triumphs of love and/or the human experience. While many would refer to some of these videos as "sad", we cannot forget that these tales are all about love in the face of struggle and the victory despite of it. Feel free to recommend additions to the list on Catholic or Christian Generals.
The church carries with it the greatest of human stories in its 2000-year-old history: The story of the saints, the champions and role models of the Christian faith. This first section will be on them and the second will be other links.
Recommended Christian books, by Sup Forums and 16/2chan. Feel free to recommend additions to the list on Catholic or Christian Generals.
>GENERAL
The Bible (Ignatius Study Bible Recommended) The catechism of your denomination
>accepted English versions of Bible
NABRE Douay Rheims RSV
>THEOLOGY
>novice
Introduction to Christianity by Joseph Ratzinger The Last Superstition by Edward Feser The Everlasting Man by G.K. Chesterton Orthodoxy by G.K. Chesterton Mere Christianity CATHOLICISM by Robert Barron The Orthodox Way by Kallistos Ware Outlines of Moral Theology by Francis J. Connell
>intermediate
Scholastic Metaphysics by Edward Feser God: His Existence and His Nature by Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange Natural Theology by Bernard Boedder The Spirit of Medieval Philosophy by Etienne Gilson Against Heresies City of God Christianity for Modern Pagans The Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church
>advanced
Apologia Pro Vita Sua Summa Contra Gentiles Summa Theologiae On the Incarnation The Didache Divine Names by Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite
>SPIRITUAL LIFE
>novice
The Introduction to the Devout Life by St. Francis de Sales Story of a Soul by St. Therese The Seven Storey Mountain by Thomas Merton Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future by Fr Seraphim Rose Nihilism - Fr Seraphim Rose
part 1
Blake Morris
>intermediate
The Interior Castle Spiritual Exercises by St. Ignatius Dialogues by St. Catherine of Sienna True Devotion to Mary True Devotion to the Holy Spirit
>advanced
The Cloud of Unknowing The Dark Night of the Soul by St. John of the Cross The Desert Fathers The Philokalia The Ladder of Divine Ascent New Seeds of Contemplation by Thomas Merton The Imitation of Christ by Thomas Kempis
>MEMETICS
Things Hidden Since the Foundation of the World by Rene Girard I See Satan Fall Like Lightning by Rene Girard
>HISTORICAL/BIOGRAPHICAL
Rome Sweet Home The Long Loneliness by Dorothy Day After Virtue Christendom I: Founding of Christendom Theology and Social Theory by John Millbank Ethics and the Limits of Philosophy by Bernard Williams Life of St.Anthony by Saint Athanasius Life of St Francis of Assisi by Saint Bonaventure Silouan the Athonite by Archimandrite Sophrony The Autobiography of St. Ignatius Loyol The Formation of Christendom by Christopher Dawson The Dividing of Christendom by Christoper Dawson
>FICTION
Don Quixote Diary of a Country Priest The Divine Comedy Paradise Lost Silence by Shusaku Endo A Canticle for Leibowitz Faust Les Miserables The Canterbury Tales The Man Who Was Thursday The Brothers Karamazov A Man for All Seasons The Pillars of the Earth The Lord of the Rings The Chronicles of Narnia Lord of the World Parzifal Joseph of Arimathea: A Romance of the Grail The Arthurian Cycle Quo Vadis
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Carson Mitchell
>we wuz jews stop right there
Luis Sanders
Who can answer what caused the Protestant Reformation . And what was the primitive Church like and how fast are we Catholics from it ?
Nolan Nguyen
Antipope when?
Joshua Garcia
wtf I love burning books now!
Landon Phillips
Who can answer what caused the Protestant Reformation . And what was the primitive Church like and how far are we Catholics from it ?
Isaac Kelly
Get the fuck out of here
Nicholas Wilson
(((They))) are Khazar roaches, not the Hebrews of the Bible
Jose Wilson
The history is complicated and it started with Martin Luther. If you have any doubt that Protestantism isn't a joke I implore you just take a look their sects and protestant countries.
No, you.
Kevin Garcia
Catholics aren't far from it. The essence of the structure is still there, it is only more pronounced given that it has power now. The cause of the reformation was Luther's disagreements came about at the same time as the rise of the printing press that allowed people to spread the word quickly of it. Civil leadership found this good reason to reject the church for their interests and many found Luther persuasive. The church, in turn, rejected them strongly and focused on their heresies rather than their actual criticisms (which were only the abuse of indulgences by priests and the wealth of the pope at the time).
But Luther went heavily from trying to reform the church to believing the church was evil and had no claim to authority, becoming absolutely ridiculous and getting lots of fans from leaders who didn't want to be under the guidance of the church.
>citing an early 20th century church practice
The church wished to get rid of poor translations of scripture along with Bibles that deliberately misrepresented the canon, which Protestant Bibles do.
Jayden Reyes
ANTIFA GENERAL FOR THOSE THAT HAVE THINGS TO ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT
Jonathan Wright
Chartres Cathedral, one of the greatest houses of God on Earth
I never implied there was anything wrong with it. I was just surprised that's what they wanted us to do.
Henry Allen
Y'know, fair point. I apologize. I'm not sure what newer catechisms say on this matter but getting rid of misrepresentations of scripture can't be bad.
Chase Cook
The miraculous apparition of Our Lady of Guadalupe
Add The Betrothed by Alessandro Manzoni to the fiction list.
Ryan Stewart
But Council of Trent was a response to the reformation and their charges
Connor Williams
Thanks for the links, that first vid was quite enjoyable
Joshua Foster
Which occurred during the death of Luther quite some time later. By the time of that Luther had already gone from contending church abuses to calling the Vatican the Whore of Babylon and hoping the Muslims destroy it. This si also where this line of thought began too.
Did you guys know that Catholic Priests in Germany can (and are urged to) deny you the Holy Sacraments, if you don't pay church tax. How is this not indulgence all over again? How is it, that the Catholic Church in Germany works with the left and is against the family?
Daily reminder that Saint David is the best home nations patron saint.
Thomas Evans
I have been interested in the idea of combining Catholic Generals, Orthodox Generals, and including Oriental Christians as well. While we have infighting in such a scenario, it would allow for discourse on a level more serious than with Protestant crowds of whom we have a mutual rejection of. Further, our worldview is similar enough to immediately open discourse together unlike with the Protestant denominations. Further, such a thread structure would allow for apostolic christians to open in discourse to reach truth and unite against modernism that threatens us mutually.
Why you guys be interested in an Apostolic Christianity General?
