A cornered enemy has nothing to lose

attacking him is the absolute wrong choice, how can the US not see this?

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>throw a feint
>he panics and launches his "nuke"
>It explodes thirty feet off the ground
>problem solved

North Korea's primary goal is the survival of their regime. They know that launching an attack would be suicidal.

Putting real pressure on NK is what led to the Agreed Framework under Clinton, the only time we've had 'successful' negotiations with the Norks. The US is most likely trying to replicate this in the hope that the NK conflict can be resolved peacefully.

Do you have a better suggestion? Sanctions haven't worked. NK has survived famines much worse than what sanctions would do to them today, and they most likely began to produce enough food to sustain their population in preparation for future sanctions. Doing nothing ("Strategic Patience") didn't work, either. What Trump is doing will force them to either enter negotiations with the US or be destroyed, and the choice that they made when faced with a similar decision in the past was to negotiate.

what if they actually have nuclear weapons or weapons of mass destruction

or got access to them somehow from Iran/Pakistan

If they really knew they can't handle a conflict, then they would back down
Is it worth the risk to attack them, just to see if they can retaliate?

It's not about NK. It's about China.

Norks couldn't launch a slingshot without the rock exploding in their faces. They are not a threat at all. That people think there's a chance they are blows my mind.

A cornered enemy has nothing to lose - sure, but in this case the enemy also has nothing to do shit with so it doesn't fucking matter.

why are americans so confident about this?

>what if they actually have nuclear weapons or weapons of mass destruction
They have between 10 and 16 nuclear devices currently. However, they don't have the means to deliver them. They're too big to be put onto missiles, and they don't have ICBM technology to begin with. They can load them onto planes, but SK and Japan are both full of US anti-air to shoot such planes down.
In order to be a threat to the West, NK needs to develop both ICBM technology and miniaturized warheads.

>If they really knew they can't handle a conflict, then they would back down
NK is developing the above technology because they think it will secure their dynasty permanently. They're banking on the West being indecisive enough for long enough to let them develop that technology, which is why they're showing such an aggressive stance.
>Is it worth the risk to attack them, just to see if they can retaliate?
No, they have conventional artillery batteries pointed at Seoul and other major cities in the region. If they're attacked in a way which doesn't completely neutralize them, they will destroy SK and kill tens of millions of people.

Google "North Korean missile failure"

more like usa knows that launching an attack would be suicidal. that's why they still haven't done anything even though they didn't even hesitate to bomb syria

how important is south korea to the US? Why is the US even getting involved? It doesn't seem to affect oil prices in any way

Does china care about either of the koreas?

>how can the US not see this?
Because they are blinded by their ego.
They will act like world police until someone pushes back hard, and then they(merica) will lose.
The empire is past it's expiration date and is ready to be replaced at any time now.

We're involved because the fat man is poking us with the stick too

>leaf
Opinion discarded.

>It doesn't seem to affect oil prices in any way
>falling for fucking memes

Everything they do is with the Chinese blessings, it's all a ruse to test the resolve of SK, Japan and the US.

> empire

only 200 years young

DEATH TO THE IMPERIALIST

GLORY TO THE GLOBAL SOVIET

Except now we're dealing with a retarded son who may prefer the idea of dying in a glorious war than just fucking whores all day like his Dad.

give me one reason why getting involved is better for the US people than leaving them alone

china and japan doesn't want korea to unify. korea is strategically important to america militarily

Where the fuck is the south korean orbiter?

Like I said, ego.

If burgers ever went to war, the "patriots" would go to war blindly to their death, and the women at home would get blacked and browned. It will be a glorious day watching the puzzled faces of burgers when they lose the war.

>North Korea has nuclear weapons

when will this meme die

WMD bluffs by dictators, gee where did hear this before?

>saddam
>gadaffi
>assad

...

none of those people claimed to have wmd's. your media and government brainwashed you into thinking they did as a pretext for invasion. also it's already been proven that north korea has nukes. in conclusion, you're fucking stupid

>The empire is past it's expiration date and is ready to be replaced at any time now.
Riiggghhhhttttt......Rome lasted 900 years and wasn't half as influential on the world. Your a fag.

>implying anything that any western government does is for the best of their people
Its for the bankers, we obviously kno that. Stop arguing with people from reddit.

> also it's already been proven that north korea has nukes.
>earthquakes are proof

thats funny every other country that has nukes has actually blown one up and recorded it on video.

you know

for advertisment

but you wouldnt know that

being a fucking leaf and all.

quality post as always

>Riiggghhhhttttt......Rome lasted 900 years and wasn't half as influential on the world. Your a fag.

>comparing rome to burgerstan

you right

burgerstan is far more glorious and conquered more nations

Sure you did gramps

>We're involved because the fat man is poking us with the stick too

And not just Fat Boy. Eventually, they'll end up selling nuke material to anybody just to support their elite's lifestyle.

Imagine Nation of Islam in Harlem with a nuke

The biggest threat from North Korea is them slipping a nuke onto a freighter and blowing it up in the Gulf of Mexico.

What is happening now is simply a pretext to a complete blockade of North Korea, to stop that from happening.

The thing is, North Korea should've been dealt with ages ago before they had the chance to build up their military to such an extant.

But the problem was dumbfuckistan got W into office who got us in a pointless fucking war in the middle east for no fucking reason because Dick Cheney wanted the sweet weapons money.

Now their too big a threat to fight because the maniac in power there is one fat joke away from launching a nuclear strike on any one of our chinky friends who happen to be stuck next to the fucking lunatic.

So really, we're stuck with this West Germany wanabe whether we like it or not and there's quite literally nothing we could do about it without risking millions of lives.

Because America has 10 aircraft carriers. That's as many as the rest of the world combined. Plus, we have the good ones. Most of their aircraft carriers are dinky little boats that launch helicopters.

Oh, and by the way, we actually have 19. We just don't consider the other 9 to be good enough to make the list.

thediplomat.com/2014/04/does-the-us-navy-have-10-or-19-aircraft-carriers/

It won't be like the 60s. In a fight today, we would absolutely annihilate NK. It wouldn't even last a week.

>ignoring the multiple nuclear test over the last 20 years.

if you got nothing smart to say keep your fucking cake hole shut

Shit Jesus, their level of nuke is like a bad oil train derailment. No problem. We clean it up, we keep going.... But the people that made it happen and everybody they know die in fear and pain.

The Korean Wars has been going on for 60 fucking years. We're sick of it. China's sick of it. At this point, everyone just wants it to end.

But commies dont have anything to lose anyways

This seems overconfident

They aren't likely to hit the US. But keep in mind that Seoul is a stones throw away from NK border. They did get a nuclear capable missile within 300km of Japans shores as well. Their missile tech will only improve. Given their current circumstances I give them 5 years and their missiles will be more advanced than American ICBMs.

But it's not like in those 5 years those in charge of US military technology will be sitting around twiddling their thumbs right? Without any evidence to support my claim, I'd intuitively guess that the rate of US tech advancements far surpasses that of NK.

They'll dirty bomb Seoul rather than nuke it. Don't need to miniaturize radiation. You just pack it and fire it

>Given their current circumstances I give them 5 years and their missiles will be more advanced than American ICBMs.

That's a fucking STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCH mate.

>every expert on north korea confirms north korea has nukes
>implying any country would lie about having nukes
>'advertising' nukes
you're retarded

Your right, NK is a long way from having a THAAD system or supercarriers, sattelite weaponry etc.

It seems to me that NK feels they must wield a big stick to secure their country. They have nukes purported to be up to 40kt (about double the power of a heroshima bomb). Their existing missiles pose a threat to Seoul and maybe even Japan. Of course their scientists and Engineers will be highly motivated to succeed with more sophisticated rockets, right?

hi shill

Well, one would think, but here we are.

Back in the 60's China's Communist Party would sort shit out and figure out who needed to be shot. These days they've lost their edge and nothing happens.

Sadly, it falls to the running dog capitalists to make the Great Leader's vision happen.

Fuck fatso - that fucker needs to hit 10000 degrees in a fraction of a second, followed by decapitation of NK military assets. You don't mess with the fucking Eagle, and this fat pile of shit is about to find out the hard way that the world outside his prison nation plays fucking hardball.

>he is cornered therefore we should just leave him alone
yeah you're a moron. kill yourself

user, you are right, its illogical unless :

-The supposed trillion worth depostis of rare earth minerals are true.

-Trump is getting backstabbed / forced to iniate ww3.

This beyond what we recognize as USA/Russia/Chinas doing, this seems "over" them, if you catch my drift.

This

>The consequences next week will be worse then this week
>Lets wait until next week then, I'm afraid to do it today

First of all look at a map, then think real long and hard about how and why that one country is well off.

So do you actually think the US would lose a conventional war with North Korea?

Why is it the wrong choice? We're at war with him still. At any fucking time war could break out. If he wants to make threats, he should be shown who is boss. Fuck this little ricebelly faggot and the fat commie slant eye he rode in on.

This little fag's like the edgy autistic kid that everyone ignores but then America comes in to fuck with him and everyone else is afraid he's gonna chimp out and go columbine.

OP is massive faggot

Thats a nice picture of soldiers forced to stand down you got there.
Hey canuck you remember when that terrorist killed the guard at your tomb of the unknown soldie? Neither does the rest of your country you miserable liberal queers.

>everyone else is afraid he's gonna chimp out and go columbine

only the fucking normies

Carter literally gave them the recipe to make nuclear weapons in the Clinton era, lad. Those guys have nuclear weapons.
The problem is that they are shitty as fuck and anti missile batteries will take them down easily.
>this could have been prevented if the SSTAR reactor was invented before

He could have been King if he'd just shut the fuck up and mind his own god damn business. Instead he ran around the world poking the world with a stick.

The problem with crazy is they tend to do the crazy shit they say they will. He's got to die. Them or us and I happily choose us over the slanty eyed bastards.

No, it's really about Kim.

It's called the art of bullying. Trump is a master at this since before military academy.

He has absolutely everything to lose.

Jesus - how could a functioning adult misread this situation so badly?

He's not a Leaf he's probably a dirty shit skin import.

Canadians know who the fuck our friends are.

should have dropped a couple of MOABs on them while they had them lined up so nicely.

fuck that...send us up the bomb.

anything this niglet does will be retaliated against and he loses his regime, little kim will puss out

We have a special MOAB made just for the norks, and its called a MOP. It's fun.

thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/04/19/world-s-biggest-baddest-non-nuke-bomb-designed-just-to-hit-n-korea.html

Agreed. It's painful to hear uninformed people (not just here) trying to assess the North Korea situation. Same sort of thing as when they characterise the regime as insane, irrational and looking for a fight.

Pro-tip; NK has been scared shitless of getting the Desert Stormed for decades. A nuke program prevents Kim from getting the Saddam treatment.

but if you kill them they win

fucking checked

Because everyone is saying that, somehow, the shitty country who can't give light to their cities have the nuclear power of USSR

No, it's about Kim and his nukes.

Why doesn't this formation seem smart..?

Another failed (hacked) NK missile launch today:

english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2017/04/29/0200000000AEN20170429001051315.html

... how?

as in, literally how? sure you can napalm the surface to hell in hours and then you'll only have the bazillion miles of tunnels they've been digging and boobytrapping since literally 1950

This. People should learn from Vietnam this wouldn't be some easy battle fought overnight.

thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/04/19/world-s-biggest-baddest-non-nuke-bomb-designed-just-to-hit-n-korea.html

We will MOP them up.

This is a distraction from trump's deplorable quasi governing attempt.

the most underrated Greek hero was Bofades

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I really wish the MSM would stop offering up this dogturd lie that governments act in good faith. This is trump's grand ol war like every fucking cancerous amerilard president has. Someone has already made some back-room deal with China who will give up NK to the depredations of the MIC.

Why not? 1 less fat fucking dictator on the planet.

2nd.

It will be the first real conventional war we have fought in decades. The kind our military is actually equipped for.

It will get dirty and will not be overnight. But if we don't do it today, we will have to do it in the future when the consequences are graver.

guess Trump has some serious maga bombs

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Kek says "Come". The 4th Seal has been broken. I am his witness, and so are this digits.

>""""""""""""experts""""""""""""
>saddam really had WMD
>CIA is not filled with liars
>not a single shred of proof ever presented

wew

you retards will believe anything

go show me some proof...

I'll wait.

you cant fight here, this is the war room

So did the kurds gas themselves?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_chemical_attack

maybe taco night got out of hand, too many jalapenos

You are astoundingly stupid, even for a leaf.

>not the CIA who gassed the kurds

also i meant proof of koreas bomb

We're fucking with him in such a hilarious way. We know that they get their missile tech from China, and probably have many agents in China able to either develop ways of disabling launch procedures or of giving them bad plans/components. The funniest thing is imagining the subtle or not hints to Kim that yeah we fucked up your launch fatty. Seriously how friggin hard is it to launch a missile? Especially when you know it'll be a global spectacle and you make sure to be as careful as possible in preparation?

He couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.
Let's take him out before his weapons improve or his friends give him better ones.

lotta armchair generals in here