So China finally built an aircraft carrier. Notice anything?

So China finally built an aircraft carrier. Notice anything?

Yea it's chinky af

it has a ramp build into it?

It's dripping

That sweet ramp

YEAH OMG IT'S LIKE FLOATING ON THE WATER OMGOMGOMG HOW THOUGH IT'S LIKE SOLID METAL.
What are you on about toothpaste

no planes capable of using it?

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Yeah, looks like it's made out of plastic lmfao.

>ramp

Top kek

is it based on russian designes? the only problem being they use chink versions of russian engines, from export jets, and we all know the russian export version of anything military is just downright inferior to what the russians use, so its a shitty version of a shitty version of a good jet?

It's got a FUCKING RAMP.

That the water is way too clean to be Chineese?

Hard to take these people serious

They didn't really build it, more just finished and revamped it. It's and Ex-Soviet, Ex-Ukrainian ship that Ukraine sold to China because they couldn't afford to finish it after the fall of the Soviet Union.

what is a ramp and where is it?

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>> The city is American
>> Run-way not long enough for any jet to take off from
>> Shadow poitning in wrong direction
>> Ship is WAY to high- bow should be further under water

What do I win?

Yeah this thread is now part of the libfag botnets "guaranteed replies" sliding copy pasta

>a fucking ramp

It's on a SLOPE

The device your mother uses to get into the house. It's right in front of her house where the steps should be

That they can't afford steam catapults let alone the electro-magnetic ones we've got on our latest ones?

What purpose does the ramp serve anyway? Is it because they don't catapult the aircraft off the ship or what?

The runway is too short

no chinese style roof on the command tower
would have been a nice touch

>tfw burger living in China

feels good being a traitor

China #1

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>ramp

The city is Dalian
Jets can take off with boosters or while ship is at full flank
Shadow matches other shadows in pic
Ship has no cargo so it draft is high

You win a fat dick in your mouth

A fucking ramp. This is why the Chinese will always be consigned to third rate Mecha

No. It's not that it's too short. It's that there are no catapults. Without catapults you need a ramp so you have more room to fall before you hit the water while the jets build up thrust.

Sweet jumps!

It's at the front end. Also it isn't that odd because they need to get supplies and equipment on board.

FUCKING

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thought I was the only one

There'll be a lot less landing crashes than on american carriers. It's easier to judge the crosswind with all those flags and ribbons.

So China finally built an escalator. Notice anything?

>It's got a FUCKING RAMP.
OH MY GOD NO IT'S THE END OF THE FUCKING WORLD.

why is a ramp so funny

it looks like solid engineering to me

LAMP

ramp detected

So what you're saying is the runway is too short?

China are a true military power not to be reckoned with
Btfo

no planes

a fucking RAMP

why? Just pull up

uh we clearly know more than actual engineers who built it and it is of our superior opinion that a ramp is a Wrong way to build it and if only they were as smart as we here on 4 chan Sup Forums they would realize this.

there's no dead whales on it?
oh wait that's japan.
oh wait I don't care.

Fun fact. When they first bought it, they wanted to turn the carrier into a floating casino. It sat around due to funding issues and then started being retrofit for a future life as a warship.

underrated post

It's the Admiral Kuznetsov, an ex soviet carrier.

Hey Chang

Kekd way too hard

ummmmm, no?

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The inclusion of the ramp was due to their lack of technical skill with traditional catapult systems. We are currently switching from traditional catapult systems (which we do well) and moving into the use of electromagnetic catapult systems. They are tricky and we are still learning. You might say that the Chinese are one evolution behind us in the game to propel craft off the ship. Lastly, the ramp is less effective as it reduces payload and range of any craft launched. Catapults are unequivocally superior to ramps. Electromagnetic catapults are even more superior to traditional catapult systems.

>Admiral Kuznetsov
This carrier is just an embarrassment.

pretty sure Admiral K still belongs to Russia and was just in the area of Syria recently...

haehahaha

>Ramp allows take off, but not landing
Japan needs this, not China

>Can't take off from a flat carrier
Holy fuck how do these people even put on pants in the morning?

Third worlders need not apply to the game, we're already holding it down

please chink go

Hahaha!

Aaahh, re add big rip!

delete this english is not my first language

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Yeah, it's a carbon copy of their other carrier, the Liaoning, which is itself a piece of shit they bought from Ukraine after the Soviet Union went broke. It has a ramp and steam engines. American carriers have catapults, nuclear engines, and put out several times more firepower.

>what is a ramp

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Gotta start somewhere

A
FUCKING
RAMP

Except if ANYTING happens to the catapult, the ship is effectively disarmed.

Ramp is the go to option for an actual war situation.

The ramp is for SVTOL YOU FUCKING MORONS.

boats with erections

The giant shoehorn?

>DURRR BUT I WAS JUST PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED LOL TRULULULED U xD

> Except if ANYTHING happens to the catapult, the ship is effectively disarmed.

Not true. It can still ram the other ships.

Well there is VTOL.

It's a shittier copy of a Russian aircraft carrier and it runs on diesel power. Also no aircraft on the aircraft carrier. Still, it's alarming as it shows the chinamen are arming up and eventually may be on par with them. Which is why we should go to war with them now while they are weak.

Fucking Brits....

The Department of the Navy frowns on its aviators squealing, "WHEEE!" as they take off. They prefer the "YEAH! GOGOGO!" which can be developed deeper in the throat and sounds more martial.

Until the British developed the ski jump in the early '70s to aid in getting its Harriers off the deck, all flight decks were straight and level. From that point, the design decisions have been:
Deploy aircraft that are able to use the existing decks
Make the decks larger
Modify the shape of the deck to give the aircraft a performance advantage
Most nations have combined these three to fit national strategy and budgeting.

At the end of WWII, the US had close to 100 aircraft carriers. As the Cold War developed, the carriers were given specialized missions, such as land-attack or anti-submarine warfare. With shrinking budgets, the DoN decided to move to jack-of-all-trades mega-ships—called super carriers. These would be large enough to carry an air wing that could handle all of the mission sets. As a result, the deck grew to a size commensurate with operating the various aircraft. In fact, they were so large, that operating land-based aircraft was entertained—and thankfully dropped.

With the catapults in the deck, the ski jump is not just an unnecessary addition, there are serious problems when operating larger, heavier jets. In fact, the Chinese are starting to understand the limitations of the ski jump, as their J-15s are having the same weight troubles as their forefathers, the Russian Su-33. Right now, the J-15 is limited to 4,000 pounds of ordnance when launching from the Liaoning, compared to the Super Hornet's 12,000 pounds of hurt from the Truman.

What might be fascinating is to see what engineering would be required to couple an Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System with a ski-jump. Of course, the aircraft would have to be able to take the cat shot—even more engineering.

The hull is made of compressed garbage and cardboard inside a thin aluminum shell?

"The U.S. Navy operates 19 ships that could be called aircraft carriers, but only considers 10 to be actual carriers." -Per Wiki

Also we have 3 more on order. So yeah if one is down we have more.

Memes aside, what is objectively inferior about ramps?

It looks ridiculous, and it can't land AWACS planes.

What if ANYTHING happens to the ramp?

>Ramp is the go to option for an actual war situation.

Except all US carriers in ww2 had catapults. WW2 was the last war with the largest naval battles with multiple carriers and battle groups participating. American catapult armed carriers did just fine even with heavy damage. Not having catapults just means you are poor. Also the majority of use a modern carrier receives is not a large scale naval battle. It is as a floating mass of American power to be projected on inferior nations that use ramp type steam powered aircraft carriers.

Catapults can be repaired in battle by a good crew if the damage is not absolutely major. If the damage is bad enough that the catapult cannot be repaired in battle, then the ship is probably lost anyway. The USS Hornet in ww2 took direct hits to the deck and the catapult was still capable of launching planes to kill nips.

isn't this a shitty version of a shitty russian carrier from like the 1960's?

Ramps reduce usable real estate for landing. On a platform where every sq foot is gold, it is a design disaster.

>Most nations have combined these three to fit national strategy and budgeting.

Partly true

But...Falklands war experience showed that aircraft could be recovered (landed on deck) in sea states impossible with conventional aircraft carriers.

>not all battles will be fought on mill pond flat seas

And the electo catapult has yet to actually work on a ship.

wouldnt put it past them

>Also the majority of use a modern carrier receives is not a large scale naval battle. It is as a floating mass of American power to be projected on inferior nations that use ramp type steam powered aircraft carriers.
Spot on.

You see those gooks from China? They've got curved carriers. CURVED CARRIERS

>Yeah, it's a carbon copy of their other carrier, the Liaoning,
>doesnt even have the exact same hull appearance
>doesnt even have the exact same deck appearance
>completely different interior design
>completely different island with completely different specs
>different armament
>different engines
>lebait.jpg xD

>It's a shittier copy of a Russian aircraft carrier and it runs on diesel power.
>its an objectively superior aircraft carrier by just actually being a dedicated aircraft carrier not a missile destroyer with a flattop and practically no real leftover purposeand active airwing like its russian counterpart, never mind all the other differences
>lebait.jpg xD

>Also no aircraft on the aircraft carrier.
>hurr Im user #4464 who doesn't know what the difference between launching and comissioning a ship is but still thinks his opinion is worth posting

Yes. That is why innovations such a catapults and ramps are in place

Are you 12

Looks like a ship that can launch aircraft. 8/10 just needs planes on it.

>the dragon will dip it's belly in the water

>when china trys to be original they make shit like this
it looks like a plastic toy.

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>Looks like a ship that can launch aircraft
But can it? Just look at the ramp.