have you noticed this? everytime free speech is the case, such as on this board, it results in the place of dialogue becoming right wing/nationalistic.
Why is that? It would seem as there are 2 solutions to the problem. a) People are inherently right wing, and leftism is just quieting down of these natural behaviors, or b) right wingers are true.
Both.
The left can only exist in a police state. People have a natural desire to be free.
The last thing you said.
Change people to "white" and you are correct. Chinks have been slaves for thousands of years, same with arabs and russian for the most part.
The amount of far-rightists that come via libertarianism/anarchism and other ideologies that are open to free speech can not be ignored.
Communism inevitably leads to totalitarianism in order to enforce the government and economic systems, and freedom of speech is the major enemy of totalitarianism. Another traditional enemy of communism is national socialism.
Im still technically left wing socially and economically but i hate pc culture, globalism, and Muslims.
>b) right wingers are true
that's the answer
and this:
If you can verbalize your ideas in an open environment you won't do so for fear of being ostracized.
So what you'll do is find places where you can talk about the things you can talk about, freely, and in doing so you are meeting people who do the same thing.
When you finally have a platform these ideas come bursting out.
If I think women are worthless cunts and can't say that in the open, I'll go online and find a community that does not question but enforce.
Same goes for leftist views but they are even more intrinsically dysfunctional. They have a platform where people listen to their ideas and they turn into violent fascist communists so imagine what would have happened it they got surpressed. You'd have isis running around
if you can't* verbalize
Right-wing views tend to be politically incorrect and "offensive" to certain groups.
At the same time, however, it does have a lot of truth in it.
So, without censorship, the tendency is that a page will eventually become right-wing because of political incorrectness.
Plus, there are a lot of people in this board, for example, that are mostly on the left on economics and some social issues. But agree with the right on immigration. They are still considered "far-right" by the media, regardless.
leftist have a boxed mind they don't what to think it makes then cry and mad when they have to think so they call people a handful of recap names like racist or bigot ect ect
Leftism is based on feelings instead of facts.
Rightwing is about accepting unpleasant facts that may disagree with feelings.
As soon as true free speech is allowed, it becomes quickly apparent that most leftist ideals only sound good on paper but aren't actually practical. Thus the only way leftwing thought can exist as a prevailing ideology is for a society to enforce rules that treat feelings as if they somehow magically change reality: AKA limit free speech.
Pic related is a perfect example of this truth in action. The leftist mindset of placing the importance of "muh fweelingz" takes precedent over the obvious medical fact that being a hamplanet is extremely unhealthy. The leftist thus gravitates toward the social bubble that is willing to ignore the facts and just tell them things that will make them feel better. The sad part is, this comic isn't satire. It is actually written by a real leftist who is entirely serious in their belief that feels are reals.
This is how leftists actually think. This can be applied to almost all leftist theory. For example, socialism is based entirely on leftist "feelings" that capitalism breeds inequality and that's "not fair", but they ignore the fact that in practice socialism does not work and instead tell themselves the lie that it wasn't "real socialism". They are able to tell themselves this lie because they still "feel" like socialism should work, so any time it doesn't work there must be something wrong. Circular reasoning at its finest.
I meant to say right* not true. Right wingers are right*
right, under which you would also have lack of freedom of speech, yet, I dont see that to be a problem under a system which flows in tune with nature, as opposed to building an ideology against it.
I would say that most people here are center authoritarian, similarly to the national socialists in Germany.
The left labels anything they don't like as far right hate speach.
Their communist bullshit is just common sense.
Most people are too cucked to call them on it.
Its because losers have a lot of free time and so they talk a lot. Being losers they also have no other archievement to be proud about other than being born and such collectivist/tribal stuff requiring zero effort.
The actual normies are working on their work. their girlfriend, their startup, marketing, networking, going to trade shows or out.
This is the real redpill.
The latter.
Everywhere where thee is no censorship, what thrives is the Right. Leftist ideals just get BTFO by people pointing out history, statistics, and scientific studies.
Leftist ideas can only thrive on TV or controlled media where you can make right-wingers look like demented racists
>Appeal to social group
Get out of here roastie it is too easy to spot you these days.
But this is what i come too realize no matter what movement you make someone will turn against it?, like red political party vs blue, they will always fight back? Or am i wrong
I wish someone would take away your right to free speech, your English is disgraceful.
this is an insightful post
Because it's about Jewish Degeneracy for the Goyim vs Free Speech. That ancient battle.
>national socialism
All commies and their socialist faggot brothers should hang.
Double digit IQ fucktard.
>Everywhere where thee is no censorship, what thrives is the Right. Leftist ideals just get BTFO by people pointing out history, statistics, and scientific studies.
>Leftist ideas can only thrive on TV or controlled media where you can make right-wingers look like demented racists
This
In Sweden there is pretty big internet forum (flashback) that has always been about freedom of expression. The result? Right wing is dominant and the mainstream media has labeled the site as a racist hate site.
Leftist only come with emotional arguments that doesn't hold up to scrutiny. As soon as they leave the TV studio and discuss with real people that have other ideas they get BTFO.
Well, both sides tend to invariably overplay their hand into authoritarianism. Most people want freedom (or the perception thereof) so they will be contrarian to whomever is acting authoritarian at the time.
I think the answer is none of those.
What I see happening over and over again is left-wingers who, believing they can't possibly be wrong when they fight for "freedom of love" and "equal rights", start being overly hostile in their defense of those seemingly good causes.
Their techniques include silencing people they disagree with and being histerical, which eventually leads to general disgust of the rest of the population for not only those people, but for the causes they defend, (which in the long run make people more homophobic and sexist), and also makes people appreciate and fight harder for free speech, since those faggots defend restricting it in favor of some minorities who might or might feel offended after some kind of commentary.
In the long run, I think the ultra right wing views are only a result of ultra left wing agenda. Well done fucking faggots, people will go full nazi just to disagree with you cunts.
I don't remember where I got this from as I've had on a txt on my desktop for quite a while, but it's quite spot on.
>Why does free speech lead to rise of ultra right wing views?
because some people use freedom of speech to tell the truth.
Correct.
I'm not "far right" but if the topic is Free Speech, I am 1000% on the side of the right wing.
The two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive
>nationalist right wing
No! The only true right wing are those who are hoppe anarchocapitalists.
These leafs, I swear to god. How heck can all of you be so irritating. Free speech is called free speech for a reason, because if there is no free speech it literally becomes indoctrination at one point.
>losers
heh.
Business owner here, currently looking to hire my 50th employee. You'd be surprised how many business owners and well employed people there are here. To many of us, this place is a relief, even with all it's flaws the mechanics of it makes it invaluable. It's the place were you can find what many people truly think, with arguments often from either side without any fear of mobs forming at your doorstep.