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I need to talk.........

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SLIDE THREAD

Not bait, I'm for real

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Dat's right!

I am real, I'm not trying bait Atheists or other Christians, I have no interest in a theological debate right now desu

I want to find out what JW's are on Sup Forums and talk to them

I've noticed some here and I want to talk with them

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I'll keep waiting

Former JW here. They preach a legalistic and falae gospel, denying the divine nature of Jesus Christ, and almost ruined Christianity for me. Thank God I woke up. I hope you do too OP.

KEK

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fix your broken religion OP

What made you buy the whole Trinity thing then?

It makes no sense to me

And they always bang on about defending that Jesus is God, and yet spend NO TIME whatsoever talking about The Holy Spirit at all

If the Holy Spirit is equally God and his a Person, why never talk about them?

Wow, if all it took was a Youtube video with a Childish narrative of fiction to "Red-Pill" you on JW's then, you didn't start out with much of a Brain did you really?

BTW, I just want to tell you guys I'm the original JW on Sup Forums.

A real JW would not want to talk to former JW at all. It is a sin to do so. This is an imposter

I'll go ahead and bite. What is it you want to know?

I'm not an imposter

And I believe YOU are the one I'm looking for, please don't leave.

I saw a few of you post on the thread about which bible is best, and you have a lot of really good knowledge

I want to talk with you, if you will allow it?

Firstly, out of the interest of full disclosure, I am dis-fellowshipped

So you can decide now whether you want to talk to me or not

I don't wish to deceive you

LOL!! This video is pure confirmation bias. If you wish to go over what this fool is talking about that is fine. However, this guy is just stroking his own ego to make himself look intellectually superior. You'll see imbeciles like him on Youtube who try to pull out the hidden camera on JW on the porch or invite them inside and challenge them. The problem is that those videos is of challenging only AMATEUR NEW CONVERTS who don't know how to answer. In other words, JW IN TRAINING. No one ever post the videos of the JW veterans for obvious reasons.

Yes, I've seen a few of those vids, I'm glad they didn't turn my way of thinking. The Biased attitude comes through loud and clear

Then you should know that you are not supposed to be talking to any of us. You are only supposed to talk to the elders of the congregation that you were DF'd in. If you are seeking advice about your current status we cannot give that to you since we know nothing about what has happened to your or anyone around you. We were not there. It is also highly advice to not ask anonymous people on the net for advice as well.

I understand completely, and I know these things already.

Believe me I wouldn't be come on here if the I didn't feel I was kind of desperate

I have tried talking to the Elder's in my Congregation for Years about the Problem I was having but it never seemed to make any difference

I was hoping a fresh set of eyes and ears would help give me a new light on the subject

Are you saying that you wish to cease this conversation? If so I will drop the matter

>"Were not a cult"
>Says this shit.

What specifically is it that you guys preach or believe that made Putin kick you out and the general negativity? Makes me think you all are probably on to something. The trinity thing?

I'm a Mormon, and I respect you JWs. We only do about 2 years of proslytizing. Your members do it for a lifetime. Kudos to that dedication to the Lord.

KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK....

Good afternoon, user. I'd like to speak with you on the thoroughly unScriptural heresy of Arianism.

Do you have a few minutes?

1 Corinthians 6: 9, 10
>9 Or do you not know that unrighteous people will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Do not be misled.* Those who are sexually immoral,* idolaters, adulterers, men who submit to homosexual acts, men who practice homosexuality,* 10 thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers,* and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom.

Got a problem with it? Take that up with God!

If it is about YOUR personal life I cannot answer that. If it is about general doctrine, Bible history, etc like I usually talk with people here that is fine.

Again, this is as unrecommended as getting legal advice from Lawyers on Sup Forums or getting medical advice from Doctors on /fit/. You need to get real medical attention and real legal advice from actual professionals in your area. If your own Elders in your real life who know you cannot help you than there is less even I can do.

JW's are incredibly organised to do God's work of Preaching the coming Kingdom of God

Other denominations are terrible at this therefore not a problem for governments in this sense

But JW's are seen as dangerous by Communistic and Socialist Governments because of this fact

Understood, no hard feelings here

Absolutely nothing about expelling people, rejecting family. But you know, you gotta do what the organization says. If they came out with a publication that said you have yo stabd on your head everday pointing north for 3 minutes they could find some arbitrary scripture to validate it and youd do it like the mind slave you are.

Yes I always felt a respect for you guys in that regard too, also the Amish

Absolutely nothing about expelling people, rejecting family. But you know, you gotta do what the organization says. If they came out with a publication that said you have yo stabd on your head everday pointing north for 3 minutes they could find some arbitrary scripture to validate it and youd do it like the mind slave you are.

The usual

>all government is Satanic
>loyalty to government is loyalty to Satan
>all religion is false and Satanic
>The Orthodox Church is a corrupt money laundering organization
>The Orthodox Church contradicts the Bible

Basically, everyone in Russia already thinks that up above. The difference is that JW were public about it door-to-door and in the market places. Putin noticed our refusal to salute him and his regime as a sign of disloyalty and made him paranoid. Also rumors that the CIA piggybacked off us to infiltrate Russia as well.

1 Corinthian 5: 1,2

>Actually sexual immorality* is reported among you, and such immorality* as is not even found among the nations—of a man living with* his father’s wife. 2 And are you proud of it? Should you not rather mourn, so that the man who committed this deed should be taken away from your midst?

Hm that's kind of interesting actually. Good luck saving some souls, user.

Im just glad they got out of the business of predicting the end of the world. That shit was cringey and emabarassing when it didnt happen. lol

This is too silly to respond to in a serious way

Read the scriptures and think about them

Actually, he makes a good point, bring up predictions made by early JW's Governing body
here

Could you explain how to refute these accusations of False prophecies made by Early JW Governing Body?

I have stayed clear of most Apostate stuff in this regard as i wasn't knowledgeable enough to refute it as it's such a non issue for most of us

Not a JW but I am curious about what is exactly that bothers you enough to seek others JW, could you post a summary and maybe that helps you to catch their attention?

And here for it specifically states that a man who is sleeping with her mother, incest is the reason for expulsion, yet the wittnesses will disfellowship for a merriad of different things.

Another example of how wittnesses with twist the scriptures to benifit their own narrative. I feel so sorry for the families of wittnesses, what that doomsday cult does to families and groups of friends is just sad and unatural.

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Because of this I'm not going to do that , i made a mistake by coming on here to be honest, i wasn't thinking straight

Isaiah 41:9 - ... ‘You are my servant; I have chosen you, and I have not rejected you.

>Psalms 55:22 - 22 Throw your burden upon Jehovah himself, And he himself will sustain you. Never will he allow the righteous one to totter.

>(Psalm 37:5) Roll upon Jehovah your way, And rely upon him, and he himself will act.

>(Psalm 43:5) Why are you in despair, O my soul, And why are you boisterous within me? Wait for God, For I shall yet laud him as the grand salvation of my person and as my God.

>(Isaiah 50:10) Who among YOU people is in fear of Jehovah, listening to the voice of his servant, who has walked in continual darkness and for whom there has been no brightness? Let him trust in the name of Jehovah and support himself upon his God.

>(Philippians 4:6) Do not be anxious over anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication along with thanksgiving let YOUR petitions be made known to God;

>Luke 18:27 - He said: “The things impossible with men are possible with God.

>Jeremiah 31:3 - From far away Jehovah himself appeared to me, [saying:] “And with a love to time indefinite I have loved you. That is why I have drawn you with loving-kindness.

>1 Peter 5:10 - But, after YOU have suffered a little while, the God of all undeserved kindness, who called YOU to his everlasting glory in union with Christ, will himself finish YOUR training, he will make YOU firm, he will make YOU strong.

>Proverbs 24:16 - For the righteous one may fall even seven times, and he will certainly get up; but the wicked ones will be made to stumble by calamity.

>2 Corinthians 4:7 - However, we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the power beyond what is normal may be God’s and not that out of ourselves

>Proverbs 3:5,6 - Trust in Jehovah with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding. 6 In all your ways take notice of him, and he himself will make your paths straight.

Well, we are anonymous here, maybe we cant help you but we can listen, unless you are forbidden to talk for some reason. But if there is no prohibition for you to speak you can tell us what bothers you, you dont have to follow our advice if it doesnt sound reasonable to you

You're failing to discern the principal here, it's not just about the SPECIFIC sin, rather Willful continuing of that sin that SHOULD lead to you being cut off

check
Ecclesiastes 8: 11
>11 Because sentence against a bad deed has not been executed speedily, the heart of men becomes emboldened to do bad

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Its because they are a doomsday cult. One of the central points of their religion is to preach about the end, armegeadon. Have you ever been to a Kingdom Hall?

Its like 80% elderly, senior citizens, 10% sad single women, 5% children and 5% confused young men. Its because theyre waiting (and hopeing) for the end of the world.

Thank you

Good choice of scriptures

Stop showing up at my door you fucking cunts

All interpretation by the organization.

Luke 15: 11 - 24
>11 Then he said: “A man had two sons. 12 And the younger one said to his father, ‘Father, give me the share of the property that should come to me.’ So he divided his belongings between them. 13 A few days later, the younger son gathered all his things together and traveled to a distant country and there squandered his property by living a debauched* life. 14 When he had spent everything, a severe famine occurred throughout that country, and he fell into need. 15 He even went and attached himself to one of the citizens of that country, who sent him into his fields to herd swine.+ 16 And he longed to be filled with the carob pods that the swine were eating, but no one would give him anything.
17 “When he came to his senses, he said, ‘How many of my father’s hired men have more than enough bread, while I am dying here from hunger! 18 I will get up and travel to my father and say to him: “Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. 19 I am no longer worthy of being called your son. Make me as one of your hired men.”’ 20 So he got up and went to his father. While he was still a long way off, his father caught sight of him and was moved with pity, and he ran and embraced him* and tenderly kissed him. 21 Then the son said to him, ‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you.+ I am no longer worthy of being called your son.’ 22 But the father said to his slaves, ‘Quick! bring out a robe, the best one, and clothe him with it, and put a ring on his hand and sandals on his feet. 23 Also bring the fattened calf, slaughter it, and let us eat and celebrate, 24 for this son of mine was dead but has come to life again;+ he was lost and has been found.’ And they started to enjoy themselves.

This is an image of Jehovah that my friend saw during his daily reveration at his altar. He is a former christian, now pagan. I reconstructed the image from what he told me.

Jehovah is the Jotun of Greed, Temptation and Degeneracy.

Filthy cultist.
You disgust me in every Christian thread you pollute with your apostasy.

The prodigal son, a classic tale. Too bad nowhere does it say.
>And when the son returned god instructed him to have a meeting with the local religious leaders where he confessed to his sins in which the public was then made aware of his missteps and he was again accepted by his father.

Love your enemy etc etc

>Its because they are a doomsday cult.
Fails to Qualify it

>One of the central points of their religion is to preach about the end, armegeadon. Have you ever been to a Kingdom Hall?
Pic Related

>Its like 80% elderly, senior citizens, 10% sad single women, 5% children and 5% confused young men.
LOL, sauce please!!?

>Its because theyre waiting (and hopeing) for the end of the world.
Yes but not just waiting, we are actively doing our part to give a witness to many - Pic Related

Jehovah's witness are a women hating cult. You do not represent real Christianity.

Jesus is God in a limited human form. He's god, not a literal son of God and a different person, he's God being in "two" (really infinite...) places at once. The holy spirit isn't a person either that's a term used to describe God being all encompassing and in everything and everyone.

And what happens when the word has been officially spread? Didnt the organization officially come out and say that they had officially spread the ministry across the world? People die and are born everyday. Youll never be able to "fully" reach the whole world, its logistically impossible.

I survived 1975...
Will you?

>A Jehovah's Witness judging someone who was disfellowshipped for talking to JWs on an anime imageboard full of hatred and pornography that Jehovah is gonna send meteors through its server farm in Armageddon to purge Satan's degeneracy in a few years.

Fuck outta here and plead Jehovah for forgiveness.

It actually expands to all the obvious

>(1 Corinthians 6:9-11) What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, 10nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom.

It says...

>(1 Corinthians 5:11) But now I am writing YOU to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.

The it expands into...

>(Titus 3:10, 11) As for a man that promotes a sect, reject him after a first and a second admonition; 11 knowing that such a man has been turned out of the way and is sinning, he being self-condemned.

>(Romans 16:17) Now I exhort YOU, brothers, to keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that YOU have learned, and avoid them.

Then into general disobedience whether of authority, parents, and those in charge..

>(2 Thessalonians 3:14) But if anyone is not obedient to our word through this letter, keep this one marked, stop associating with him, that he may become ashamed.

Verbal abuse, blasphemy, gossip...

>Acts 19:9) But when some went on hardening themselves and not believing, speaking injuriously about The Way before the multitude, he withdrew from them and separated the disciples from them, daily giving talks in the school [auditorium] of Ty•ran′nus.

>(Colossians 3:8) But now really put them all away from YOU, wrath, anger, badness, abusive speech, and obscene talk out of YOUR mouth.

>He is God being in two places at once
But God is already in all places

Hebrews 12: 7 - 11

>7 You need to endure as part of your discipline.* God is treating you as sons.+ For what son is not disciplined by his father?+ 8 But if you have not all shared in receiving this discipline, you are really illegitimate children, and not sons. 9 Furthermore, our human fathers* used to discipline us, and we gave them respect. Should we not more readily submit ourselves to the Father of our spiritual life and live?+ 10 For they disciplined us for a short time according to what seemed good to them, but he does so for our benefit so that we may partake of his holiness.+ 11 True, no discipline seems for the present to be joyous, but it is painful;* yet afterward, it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

Why do you think all your denominations have become useless and constantly mocked for being ineffective

You are not taught to discern bible principals and stick to them, hence why you have Gay Priests and people who continue to sin without reprisal from your Pastors and ministers because YOU HAVE NO DISCIPLINE IN YOUR CHURCH

It was given to the Church as a Loving way to discipline his followers when they strayed

Like how you spank or tell of a errand child for misbehaving

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I know but only once did he decide to come down in a human vessel and try experiencing life just as a human would. And he did it perfectly. And prayed to himself and shit.

>Jehovah's witness are a women hating cult. You do not represent real Christianity.
YAWN - Not true - Try Harder

>Love your enemy etc etc
>catholic perverting scripture

>Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

>Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

JWs, Mormans, Catholics, Anabaptists are all lordship salvation/work's salvation heresy.

>These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks

>I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted. Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life[...]

It sounds like esoteric non-sense, how you get this kind of understanding from reading the word of God, boggles my mind

You've been mislead my friend

you people are a fuckin brainwashed cult of closet fags

>Because of the superficial 2000 year old goat hearder manuel I have rejected family and friends, but at least I can die with my head held high.

Not in my family. Not even once. You and I both know that religion rips families appart. It DEVISTATES families.

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I used to deny they did this shit but I was recently informed the Witnesses are punishing my mother for maintaining a relationship with me because I'm not a witness.

JW were never prophets. This is a claim made by opposer putting JW on a pedestal they never put themselves in to begin with.

>We have not the gift of prophecy - Zion's Watch Tower, July 1883.

>Nor would we have our writings reverenced or regarded as infallible, or on a par with the holy Scriptures. The most we claim or have ever claimed for our teachings is that they are what we believe to be harmonious interpretations of the divine Word, in harmony with the spirit of the truth. And we still urge, as in the past, that each reader study the subjects we present in the light of the Scriptures, proving all things by the Scriptures, accepting what they see to be thus approved, and rejecting all else. It is to this end, to enable the student to trace the subject in the divinely inspired Record, that we so freely intersperse both quotations and citations of the Scriptures upon which to build - Zion 's Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, 15 December 1896, reprint, 2080

>It is not our intention to enter upon the role of prophet to any degree, but merely to give below what seems to us rather likely to be the trend of events—giving also the reasons for our expectations - "Views From the Watch Tower," Zion's Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, 1 March 1904, reprint, 3327

>Someone may ask, Do you, then, claim infallibility and that every sentence appearing in "The Watch Tower" publications is stated with absolute correctness? Assuredly we make no such claim and have never made such a claim. What motive can our opponents have in so charging against us? Are they not seeking to set up a falsehood to give themselves excuse for making attacks and to endeavor to pervert the judgments of others? - Zion's Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, 15 September 1909, reprint, 4473.

>We do not even aver that there is no mistake in our interpretation of prophecy and our calculations of chronology. - Zion's Watch Tower, 1908

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Yea, but they legit believed Armageddon was going down several different occasions and then it never happened.

1914
1917
1925
1957? (somewhere in the 50s)
1975

Now I'm hearing it could be within a few years but no specific date.

I was raised a jehovah's witness. Those people are a fucking cult of stupidity and isolation. Fuck every single one of them.

>You and I both know that religion rips families appart. It DEVISTATES families.

Yeah, I know. Loyalty to God over loyalty to family always. The Bible admits this.

>(Matthew 10:34-37) Do not think I came to put peace upon the earth; I came to put, not peace, but a sword. 35For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a young wife against her mother-in-law. 36Indeed, a man’s enemies will be persons of his own household. 37He that has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and he that has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me.

>(Luke 12:52) For from now on there will be five in one house divided, three against two and two against three.

>(Luke 12:53) They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against [her] mother, mother-in-law against [her] daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against [her] mother-in-law.”

>(Matthew 19:29) And everyone that has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands for the sake of my name will receive many times more and will inherit everlasting life.

>(Luke 14:26) “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own soul, he cannot be my disciple.

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Good references - Have not seen them before - Thank You

Revelation 2:9 (KJV)

"And I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."

>but they legit believed Armageddon was going down several different occasions and then it never happened.

No, actually, they never did.

>However, we should not denounce those who in a proper spirit express their dissent in respect to the date mentioned [1914] and what may there be expected . . . We must admit that there are possibilities of our having made a mistake in respect to the chronology, even though we do not see where any mistake has been made in calculating the seven times of the Gentiles as expiring about October 1, 1914. - The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, 15 November 1913, repr. 5348

>Indeed, as respects the date 1914, which we have emphasized, and respecting which we have repeatedly expressed our faith, our conviction—even respecting this date we have never knowingly spoken in infallible terms." June 1, 1913 Watchtower

>"We are waiting for the time to come when the government of the world will be turned over to the Messiah. We cannot say that it may not be either October 1914, or October 1915. It is possible that we might be out of the correct reckoning on the subject a number of years. We cannot say with certainty." October 15, 1913 Watchtower

You're confusing WANTING something to happen with SAYING IT WILL happen. They wanted something to happen but were not certain IF anything would happen.

Ironically, they're the original IT'S HAPPENING.

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They don't need you or any family anymore. They've created their own in the Kingdom Hall and have more Brothers, Sisters, and Elders they could ever associate with.

(That was sarcasm. I know those feels.)

what did you do to get kicked out?

I got a JW friend, some of the shit he says is insanity to me.

What got you dis fellowed?

My half brother's side of my family was JW. They were (still are) fucking batshit crazy..


The worst part is their extreme mental gymnastics to justify their shitty life choices.

JWs made me realize how shitty religion really is.

Gee, imagine being an all powerful energy-creature that can do literally anything and getting so uppity over families loving each other you go to Earth to fuck everything up and create hate and violence.

Is Jehovah retarded?

What's it like being part of a cult?

>Ironically, they're the original IT'S HAPPENING.
ha ha

Same.
I grew up as one and the bullshit of other religions was engraved into my head. Then I learned the bullshit of the JWs.
Now I'm a fedora.

No fun allowed

>We are not a prophet; we merely believe that we have come to the place where the Gentile times have ended - Light, vol. 1 (Brooklyn: Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, 1930), 194

>: This pouring out of God's spirit upon the flesh of all his faithful anointed witnesses does not mean those now serving as Jehovah's Witnesses are inspired. It does not mean that the writings in this magazine The Watchtower are inspired and infallible and without mistakes. It does not mean that the president of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society is inspired and infallible, although enemies falsely charge us with believing so.... But we confess with the Scriptures that the day of such inspiration passed long before 1870, as the apostle Paul showed it would. . . . Inspired speaking and writing passed away with the last of the twelve apostles, by whom the gifts of the spirit were imparted to others. Yet God is still able to teach and lead us. While confessing no inspiration for today for anyone on earth, we do have the privilege of praying God for more of his holy spirit and for his guidance of us by the bestowal of his spirit through Jesus Christ - The Watchtower, 15 May 1947, pp. 157-8.

>The Watchtower does not claim to be inspired in its utterances, nor is it dogmatic. It invites careful and critical examination of its contents in the light of the Scriptures - Name and Purpose of the Watchtower," The Watchtower, 15 August 1950, 262-263

If youre going to let a book, written by ancient, uncivilized man and a faceless organization (known for erroneously predicting the end of the world) completely control your one potential life on this planet than youre lost.

Wont go into those details desu

But I deserved it, I admit that completely, I have no problems with that decision. It was the right one

Alot, or at the least the more vocal and disgruntled of former JW's, tend to be the only ones to moan about their disfellowshipping.

Alot need to Man up, seriously

>ITT why sola scriptura is retarded

"This food we call the Eucharist, of which no one is allowed to partake except one who believes that the things we teach are true, and has received the washing for forgiveness of sins and for rebirth, and who lives as Christ handed down to us. For we do not receive these things as common bread or common drink; but as Jesus Christ our Savior being incarnate by God's Word took flesh and blood for our salvation, so also we have been taught that the food consecrated by the Word of prayer which comes from him, from which our flesh and blood are nourished by transformation, is the flesh and blood of that incarnate Jesus."

"First Apology", Ch. 66, inter A.D. 148-155.

"God has therefore announced in advance that all the sacrifices offered in His name, which Jesus Christ offered, that is, in the Eucharist of the Bread and of the Chalice, which are offered by us Christians in every part of the world, are pleasing to Him."

"Dialogue with Trypho", Ch. 117, circa 130-160 A.D.

Moreover, as I said before, concerning the sacrifices which you at that time offered, God speaks through Malachias, one of the twelve, as follows: 'I have no pleasure in you, says the Lord; and I will not accept your sacrifices from your hands; for from the rising of the sun until its setting, my name has been glorified among the gentiles; and in every place incense is offered to my name, and a clean offering: for great is my name among the gentiles, says the Lord; but you profane it.' It is of the sacrifices offered to Him in every place by us, the gentiles, that is, of the Bread of the Eucharist and likewise of the cup of the Eucharist, that He speaks at that time; and He says that we glorify His name, while you profane it."

-"Dialogue with Trypho", [41: 8-10]

Yes.

You don't need to be a JW or a Catholic or anything to follow Chirst. Just follow his teachings.

Your own family can be bought, bribed, and corrupted. It is your job to cut them off of they threaten your welfare whether physically, legally, morally and in this case spiritually. If your dad cooks meth it is in family's best interest to cut him off. The Bible takes it farther and demands the same if he against Christ. As far as God is concerned being anti-Christ is worse then cooking meth.

>Anti-Christ not even once.

>What's it like being part of a cult?

Don't know, why don't you ask her? Pic related

Any religion that tells its followers to throw their families out because they aren't part of that religion is a Jonestown-tier cult. Russia did nothing wrong. You are a sick people.

Drugs, violence and crime is a whole different level of fuckery than "I don't believe your beliefs but we can still love each other because we're family". You're a fucking cult and I hope more countries come after you.