AMA About Duterte (pol's new guy)

I'd like to clear up any confusion about President Duterte (allegations of killings, political ideology, if he's /ourguy/) since most of the information that reaches other countries is sent by libtards/globalists/oligarchs who sent the Philippines to shit in the first place and want to keep it that way. There's a smear campaign going on because Duterte poses a threat to them.

I live in the Philippines so I'm pretty well versed regarding this subject.

Other urls found in this thread:

getrealphilippines.com/blog/2016/09/philippines-extrajudicial-violence-traces-roots-aquino-admin-according-new-york-times/
manilatimes.net/rappler-misled-eu-human-rights-watch-cnn-time-bbc-world/318078/
rt.com/news/358451-philippines-duterte-isis-threat/
youtube.com/watch?v=sBJiJszM9Rg
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

"I was separated from my wife. I'm not impotent. What am I supposed to do? Let this hang forever? When I take Viagra, it stands up."

What did he mean by this?

In the west all we hes about him is that he's a murderer and crazy and evil or something. The thing is, I don't think most people believe the propaganda much but also we're not given an alternate narrative about him. Why is the media so afraid of him?

he got cucked by china, thats for sure

Why was he trying to cozy up to China at the end of Obama's term, then suddenly he's our best friend again. What game is he playing? (probably EU4)

well? is he doing a good job?
do you see an improvement?

The media is afraid of him because he's anti globalist, just like Trump.

but trump is a globalist. he said it himself.

Right now he's doing a really good job trying to bring our country up from the hell hole it's in. He's focusing on a strict law and order campaign against illegal drugs, and Islamic Terrorism, he's outed a lot of corrupt cops, he's rekindled Filipino Nationalism, etc. Also, he just recently laid out his long term economic plan and it's great. The previous administration was never this competent.

The Duterte administration is not without its faults, though. Our head of police is an incompetent nutcase. There were also a lot of incompetent frat boys given positions in the government not for their experience but for being famous or being friends with duterte (ex. an actor has a high position in the dept of tourism, our police head skipped a lot of ranks)

you can get away with weed... cops will just shoo you off even on their slowest day.

meth = instajail or get rekt by vigilantes

sadly I agree with this. Duterte is a total cuck to China. He's also a cuck to muslims so he's very politically correct in his war against Abu Sayaff/ISIS. He keeps considering peace talks with these guys, and communist rebels instead of full on just blowing them up.

These are his worst traits

I have no idea

what happened to BBL btw? afaik they threatened us for war if it wasn't passed...

glad things are looking up
nothing can be perfect, but hopefully this is a stepping stone to greater things.

he says he's a globalist and a nationalist which frankly is as confusing as Duterte claiming that he's a socialist (which he's not really according to his actions)

It really is a step in the right direction for the Philippines.

Is it true that he have kicked Rothscilfs out of the country?

A new draft is being written. I believe that BBL shouldn't be passed in any form, though. Giving the muslims their own state is really dumb.

I read that article. There's no reputable source that he even mentioned kicking out the Rothschilds. Though he has spoken out against George Soros a few months ago for being responsible for funding groups and rallies opposed to the Duterte government.

Holy shit... I remember the ambushed police force. It was obviously a suicide mission to delay the BBL...

Simple. Obama isn't president anymore. Trump is.

Don't forget his upcoming infrastructure projects. http www build gov ph/
Duterte is a great man, don't dare and lose him flipbros.

>http www build gov p
Thanks Italbro. I'm impressed that you're aware of that website.

Thanks a lot. Feel free to visit the Philippines. We have great beaches, etc. It isn't a war zone like the media wants you to think it is.

Duterte has done a pretty solid job admitting that hes everything the liberal West accuses him of being.
Hes leaves very little room for interpretation or debate.
Hes made too many primary quotes to the media admitting that hes personally killed people and sanctions the killing of people without arrest or trial. Hes also a complete hypocrite leading an anti-drug crusade while admitting to a personal history of fentanyl (basically meth) abuse.

It's true that he's personally killed criminals during his tenure as Davao Mayor (ex. he killed a bunch of hostage takers who raped and killed European missionaries back in the 80s).

But the current issue is if he's the mastermind behind the vigilante/extra judicial killings in the Philippines. The opposition is quick to blame him and is eager to unseat him, so there's a smear campaign that he's behind these killings when it's really corrupt cops, vigilantes, and drug bosses killing off their weak links.
Most of these problems were already present BEFORE Duterte was president.

relevant article/s:
getrealphilippines.com/blog/2016/09/philippines-extrajudicial-violence-traces-roots-aquino-admin-according-new-york-times/

manilatimes.net/rappler-misled-eu-human-rights-watch-cnn-time-bbc-world/318078/

>why is the media so afraid of him
>the media says he is evil and crazy
>I don't think most people believe the (((propaganda)))
>we're not given an alternate narrative
Theres isn't an alternative narrative because theres only 1 reality user.
You don't even need to take the media or mine or anyones word for it. Take Dutertes word for it, the man admits to everything on camera and in interviews. Hes not hiding how much of an asshole he is at all but you're still choosing to try to believe otherwise despite 0 reason for doing so.

give specific examples instead of blanket statements.

>a smear campaign
The west doesn't need a word from anyone else to hate Duterte. Just the things that Duterte does and says about himself is enough.
>"And I'd go around in Davao with a motorcycle, with a big bike around, and I would just patrol the streets, looking for trouble. I was really looking for a confrontation so I could kill."
>“Hitler massacred three million Jews. Now, there is three million drug addicts. I’d be happy to slaughter them.”
>“I was angry because she was raped. That’s one thing. But she was so beautiful. The mayor [Duterte] should have been first.”

Even if drug users were given due process before they were killed, capital punishment for non-violent crimes is seen as disgusting in the west. Saudi-Arabia tier uncivilized.

iirc there was this one time a girl was put in jail with men and she was raped.
Duterte's comment about it was "Why was I not invited?"

true or propaganda?

An Australian missionary was raped (and murdered) in the city while he was the mayor. Full quote included in
I don't know anything about a woman raped in jail, but i wouldn't at all be surprised to hear that he joked about that one to.

ITT Americucks whining about due process when they have no idea how bad the trafficking situation (drugs/humans) and corruption actually is

If he's such a cuck about Muslims why did he say this: rt.com/news/358451-philippines-duterte-isis-threat/

If your country is so bad that it can't afford due process and just have to straight up murder drug users and suspected drug users by the thousands, then you're too much of a shit hole for us to care about at all. You're a third world shit hole with no international importance outside your geographic proximity to actual countries.

t. fag who has obviously never been to PH

If you were looking at the big picture and the geostrategic importance of the Pacific Rim you'd know why those islands are important.

As someone affected by the vermin known as druggies and drug dealers i fully support your president hard stance in such issues, If a similar event were to take place in south american countries, would the philiphines be open to establish economic relations with them?

Drug Dealers should be executed. Good riddance.

wtf I hate drumpf now

I hope he wipes out the Muslims from your country. The Phillipines is rightful Catholic clay.

I'd like this to happen in California. You have no idea how badly drugs have fucked up an entire generation of people here.

>the man admits to everything on camera and in interviews
Everything he admits to doing, he did within the law. Nothing extra-judicial, nothing that violates human rights. He killed 3? Yes, 3 armed, dangerous, confirmed, in-the-act rapists and kidnappers in a shootout.

The rest, are obviously either:
1. jokes/hyperboles (eg, eating liver of terrorists)
2. hypothetical (if..then: IF you don't stop doing crime, this will be your last Christmas. or.. I would be happy to kill 3 million addicts) - both statements he did NOT do, because they are hypothetical. IF..THEN statements.

You want to know something interesting? Ever since Duterte gained spotlight, even the Filipinos in the USA have changed. They're no longer obnoxious into this Filipino swag shit. It's like they all disappeared.

*both statements he did say, but did not do. they're just that, statements. hypothetical ones.

Why did he marry a fucking Jew?

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He is a national socialist

Im surprised he hasnt hired foreigners to kill druggies. That would be cash as fuck

Westerners don't understand that savages can only be governed by greater savagery. PI culture is the problem and the human obstacles to progress should be killed.

The hardest Duterte redpill to swallow is this that Duterte actually doesn't kill druggies. He doesn't commit EJK. There is no death squad. He operates within the law.

The killed druggies you hear are either:
1. Drug dealers/lords killing each other
2. Corrupt/rogue cops killing druggies, to protect his reputation
3. Drug dealers who, in the process of being arrested, resisted arrest and shoot at the police, and end up getting killed because the police defended themselves and are better armed.

That seems like a reasonable Redpill user

He turns a blind eye to it, and doesn't promote heavy investigations of EJK. At least from what I have heard.

Actually those """"statistics""" (quotation marks because they've been trumped up by media) you hear about are really the numbers of deaths under investigation or DUI, so they *are* being investigated. And not all of them are drug-related.

The CHR (Commission of Human Rights) actually just found a total of 39 cases that are possibly fishy, so, again, it's not really a concerted state-sanctioned effort to kill everyone, just some rogues, bad cops, vigilantes, syndicates, and possibly collateral damage. But overall things are improving.

It's a local governance problem too more than anything, since all those deaths are clustered in 5 major cities.

Basically this

That's to bad.

At least he is instilling fear into the criminals if nothing else.

so how many off you guys are spanish-mixed

meant

Pretty sure all lowland Flips have even a small trace of Spanish admixture. But those who have significant Spanish lineage probably account for less than 1-2% of the population.

ok, the Filipinos I know look like straight spics

It depends really, a lot of lowland Filipinos have some Spanish-looking features but only have very distant Spanish lineage.

The middle and upper-classes generally have more Spanish admixture (though still not a majority), so that may explain it.

Why does every fucking Filipino act like a moody teenager any time some questions this fucking prick.
>WAAAAH YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND US!
Same line every fucking time. Same excuses. Like, fuck off mate. I know that in the Philippines corruption runs rampant and where life is cheap, but give me a break.

basically he said this in anger when he saw the dead bodies of the raped girls:

"I was so angry because she got raped. Her beauty was wasted by these savages. The mayor (him) should have been first."

I believe the statement is still darn distasteful but he said it in the heat of the moment out of anger.

I used to RAPE with the TMP in CS.

>rt.com/news/358451-philippines-duterte-isis-threat/

Regarding muslims, he flip flops a lot.

>He blamed the USA for the Muslim genocide back in the 1800s
>He backs a bill that aims to set up a sharia state in a certain region in mindanao, basically a no go zone
>He was supportive of peace talks with the MILF and MNLF terror groups (though this has changed)
youtube.com/watch?v=sBJiJszM9Rg

Duterte isn't perfect but he's still pretty based though

people really like to underestimate duts
forgetting this man was a prosecutor and a judge who manage to survive when Davao before him running things was a shitfest

What event do you mean?

What kind of gun is that?

>trigger discipline
I like this guy.

Thanks for helping out, user

That sounds great. Can you elaborate? Less obnoxious in what terms?

It's funny because he wanted a closer relationship China, but then when he realized that was a mistake, he cam begging the US to send out NAVY to protect you guys.

Top fucking kek. Weaker nations should fear the strong.

How easy would it be to get away with killing someone by just planting drugs on the body or something? i imagine you could realistically do this right now in phili.

Right now he believes that historical injustice against Muslims is the cause of Islamic Extremism (obviously wrong).

Hopes he breaks out of this viewpoint. You can't fully destroy Islamic Extremism before getting to the root of it, the ideology itself.

I endorse this user's redpill statement fully! I've been saying this for a long time now.

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You've mistaken me as one of those rabid Duterte fans (I'm not). I support him but I call him out for his bs. I'm not like Bill Mitchell who thinks Trump is dear leader.

Why is he so based? He truly is /ourguy/

Easy enough if you tried. Well that's probably where a lot of the statistics on "extrajudicial" killings come from, people are taking advantage of it to settle loose ends.

That is a problem deeply rooted in the Philippines' corruption, not new in Duterte's govt.. I believe the Philippine National Police should be abolished completely and start from the ground up. It's just too much of a swamp.

and as I said, the broken system of the PH law enforcement is at fault, not Duterte's. Blame Cory Aquino and friends.

I don't necessarily disagree with that. As I said, Duterte is cucky to China. He should've known they were not good guys.
A lot of us here are pretty angry that Duterte was (is still?) trying to align with the people who are trying to steal some of our territory.

Honestly, the problems started when the PC was abolished. The paramilitary PC served as a sort of check on the civilian INP. When the PC was abolished, the new PNP that sprung from the INP had chiefs and officials who became very territorial and had their own turfs and interests to protect.

He just got the Ming DLC at the end of Obama's term, then realized what shit it was, and then modded back.

>MILF terror groups

and as i said out police chief is fricking incompetent. Hired because of brotherhood instead of merit.

Moro Islamic Liberation Front. Sorry to burst your bubble.

>Ming DLC
Who else wouldn't hate the USA with Obama as president? I'm happy Trump won since he has more in common with Duterte than Shillary has.

Honestly, I'd say that he's just trying to cozy up to the guys who (realistically) are our biggest trade partners in the region. I'd say that the whole international arbitration case was pretty quixotic really. China's import share has gone up significantly in all the time that we had our beef with them in the WPS.

If anything, the WPS is not an economic issue for China. They can always get oil for Russia. I attended a talk where a former general and a Chinese studies professor said that China doesn't want the resources, but the security. They're paranoid that America can sneak in nuclear submarines and surface combatants through Philippine waters. China wants security, while we want the resources. Something can be worked out, especially now that America is pretty disorderly at the moment.

Bump. Prepare for Flips flooding this thread.

Oh I honestly don't blame him. Just like I don't blame Egypt for going more to Russia under Obama, what ally could count on that nigger fag?

>you can get away with weed... cops will just shoo you off even on their slowest day.

can confirm, still 420 blazin everyday and my dealer always smiles and says 'don't worry about Rodrigo'

Hopefully level headed Flips come instead of the ones that support EVERYTHING Duterte does like cultists.

recap: I like Duterte but I'm not afraid to call out his bs

>that trigger discipline

4D Chess. Also, China's kinda siding with the US on North Korea now. It also looks like Trump is improving relations with CN so if US-CN-PH are all friendly, it's all good.
What most people don't understand is that CN is slowly veering away from communism.

Duterte is even open to medical marijuana

I was in the Philippines in January
everybody over there liked how he kills all the drug pushers even the people who voted against him wanted to see the drug pushers dead
Streets in Manila seemed a lot safer than when i visited 2 years ago
I love the Philippines ,
If your a young white guy you get worshipped as a god
I bleached a lot of college girls in Manila and Cebu

First that, and now this.

He's always been okay with marijuana, and even expressed support for legalizing its medical use before.

It's really shabu dude, that shit fucks you in the head.

Okay, honestly the whole War-on-Drugs has three fronts.
We must realize that there's more to this than what we can see on the streets.
It's political, social, and spiritual. Political is for the (((people))) who funds or helps drug lords in any way. Social is the support of the people; once support is lost, it'll be hard to continue the war. Spiritual is the support of the local faith and how they would respond; this can affect the support of the people.
That's because security is now tight and those crime-committing are now afraid to get out the light.

>he cam begging the US to send out NAVY to protect you guys

can you show a link source?

There was news about this a few weeks ago but people misunderstood. The timeline was not correct.

I think the right timeline is

>Duterte "broke up" with the Obama's USA
>befriended China
>in an interview, he blamed the US for not defending South China Sea, that's why he befriended China

But people misunderstood the sequence to mean:
>Fuck off US
>China you're my new bestfriend
>WAAHH USA why didn't you defend us? Please come back

IT'S THE

It seems all the criminals are afraid not just the drug pushers
2 years ago people in the street always tried to scam me or get me hookers but now everybody was nice and i had a real good time
I even was in some slum areas alone (Tondo) and nobody tried to rob or scam me

He Gives free Helicopter rides to Marxists. He cant be all bad.