Regardless of how wide-ranging these studies are, they tend to have one thing in common: they treat gay men as a monolithic group. But now a research team out of the University of Toronto Mississauga (Ashlyn Swift-Gallant, Lindsay A. Coome, D. Ashley Monks, and Doug P. VanderLaan) has investigated variation within the population of gay men based on their anal-sex roles (that is bottom, or receptive, top, or penetrative, and versatile, or both receptive and penetrative depending on circumstance). The results of two of their studies suggest there very well could be biological subgroups of gay men, which is to say that one’s biological makeup could possibly (and most likely, indirectly) influence whether or not he likes to fuck or get fucked (or both).
When it has been studied, anal-sex role has been viewed as a result of social factors (more on that in a minute). Despite every study I’ve read that asks about the anal-sex role of its respondents has found that the majority men who have sex with men identify as versatile (including the two studies at hand from the University of Toronto team) as well as my own anecdotal experience suggesting as much, the top/bottom binary persists in gay culture. It comes with predictable cultural baggage for those who firmly fit on either pole (pun intended—but only for the bottoms). Tops are stereotyped as masculine, taking up the male tradition of putting their dicks in things, while bottoms are regarded as more feminine (despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary in porn, and the preponderance of self-identified “masc bottoms” in sex-app profiles). And with the assumptions of femininity in men come insults (“bottom” as a pejorative amongst gay men) and with those come a specific kind of shame in addition to the shame many gay men already experience merely living in a heterosexual world.
>Not knowing you can pretty much bribe scientists by "funding" them to produce any result you want.
William Wilson
What are you trying to proof here op?
Zachary Gonzalez
if my father was gay how was I born? checkmate
William Foster
It's been known that it is a genetic defect for a long time now.
Carter Rivera
Being gay is not a choice or a convertible state. Inb4 trannies, most are gay guys larping as women bcuz autistic, but being gay is legit a biologically based thing rather than psychological.
Leo Morales
If Homosexuality is genetic, it can be isolated and eliminated.
A majority of gays do not report being abused as kids. What of us?
Wyatt Garcia
I dunno, out his ass ?
Brandon Sanchez
Even if this was true (which it isn't, wholly) faggotry is still an unnatural deviation, a disease which still needs stomped out. GTFO of here you dicksucker you are degenerate and will always be a beta
Sebastian Smith
Homo sexuality is a genetic flaw you can never wipe it out.
Carson Barnes
Just because you didn't report it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Maybe your uncle slapped his cock on your face when you were sleeping.
Jaxson Wright
>its genetic that makes it a disease i dont hate gay people.
Dominic Martinez
Nice set of triggered closet homos right here.
I bet you get your girlfriend to stick her finger up your bum hole while she wanks you.
That his behaviour is genetic and therefore not his fault.
Bentley Nguyen
I hope you are not being serious.
Tyler Lopez
see
Grayson Stewart
>Scientists have studies and reasearches >Poltard has greentext and joos ;) I bet you believe in Hermeticism
Lincoln Morales
Never underestimate Sup Forums.
Just remember that the rabid homophobes are just a loud minority, even on Sup Forums. Every poll I've done on this site virtually always comes back with the people who actually want to walk back homosexual rights being in the vast minority. Most are for the status quo, and an amount slightly larger than the reactionary minority want to continue walking them forward.
Funny how such a small group can control so much discourse though.
Michael Jones
Cancer is a genetic abnormality.
Once cancer can be cured, so can homosexuality
Colton Martin
>money gets pumped into researches like this What a joke
Camden Stewart
Would you please compare your headline to your 1st paragraph and then tell us what made you so fucking retarded? Genetics, alcohol abuse by your mom, what was it?
Justin Cook
>""""science"""" This degenerates was BTFO'ed long ago, but they still want to push their failure agenda in order to legitimize homosexual behavior.
Asher Stewart
maybe ur mum was gay
Chase Perez
So there is a gay gene, the very thing liberals were adamantly opposed to for ages? Who could've guessed!
Connor Foster
no, the joke is that it's an article on jezebel of all places
Homosexuality is natural. It is not a disease. Gay can procreate.
Xavier Kelly
This is actually huge because if they find the gay gene and a way to test for it in utero we'll have our first pro-life gay people protests.
Adrian Fisher
Don't bother. Now that I've laid down a gauntlet some autistic faggot will sit there F5ing to stuff the ballot so that he can win arguments on the internet, because winning is more important than being right.
Leo Allen
So what do you propose burger (sterilization the fags dont have kids anyways) genocide? Or genetic engineering?
You moron Homo sexuality is by its very nature sterile no actuall homo would breed thats why the adopt.
Robert Morales
Sup Forums's fill of faggotry. We should be experts
Justin Kelly
It makes no sense as a genetic problem. Genes want to procreate. Unless a virus adjusted specifically the genes of one person to become gay to spread through anal sex, I don't see how these genes can survive. Gays don't have kids in huge numbers.
The way I see it, it's far more likely for being gay to be environmental. As a mental illness, it makes perfect sense, since normal behavior is to replicate genes and gays avoid this.
Landon Foster
>Gay marriage + Adoption
1. Marriage isn't about love. That's only a recent thing.
It's a contract for the trading of resources for the purposes of societal cohesion.
2. Gay adoption is child abuse.
Gay parents are incapable of raising a normal child.
Kayden Rivera
Women who have male gay relatives have more kids on average.
>he thinks people on Sup Forums aren't autistic enough to stuff ballots on unsecured polls when one of the first things we did after the presidential debates was stuff ballots on unsecured polls
Josiah Flores
How the fuck is that possible? They dont make children, so the gene would die out or be extremly rare.
Joseph Roberts
Well I'm not sure if you call surrogacy breeding but that is becoming increasingly more common and I would say is the most desirable option if it can be afforded by a majority of gay men.
Bentley Long
>So what do you propose burger?
Exile.
We can put them all on an island then airdrop jello shots and meth.
They'll love it.
Aaron Reyes
>Great bait mate
Tranny fags cant have kids. Thr operation sterilizes them.
Brandon Parker
Gay people were stigmatized through history so they had to hide.
Carter Collins
There has been (((scientific))) evidence to proof every possible way someone could be gay ranging from psychological disorder to genes The one i think is more likely however is the lack of exposure to testosterone in the womb due to anxiety or unhealthy practices done by the mother (like smoking or drinking alcohol) which fits in nicely with the rise of feminism and women in the workforce which lead to more stressed women which in turn create more fuck up children ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3296090/
Elijah Martin
What the burger is saying the use surrogate's.
Noah Gutierrez
>2010 >I WAS BORN GAY >2011 >scientist disprove gay gene >IT'S MY CHOICE TO BE GAY >2012 >I'M TRANSGENDER SHITLORD >2013 >scientist disprove children are born transgender >IT'S MY CHOICE >2013 >x >y >2014 >more x and y >2017 time skip >(((SCIENCE))) HAS PROVED GAY GENE IS REAL CIS WHITE MALE
So either you're born gay and you're a defect much like any other retard or you're not born gay and we are in fact products of our world. Either way homosexuals are bat shit crazy in both scenarios.
>be born gay, due to retard gene >not be born gay, and just happen to be mentally ill from years of degeneracy.
Jace Torres
>Thr operation >sterilizes them.
Wow, you know nothing about human biology.
Also: Can a gay man impregnate a woman? Yes Can a lesbian woamn give birth? Yes Are gay people sterile? No
Owen Russell
In your posts you are making 2 claims 1) You can read minds over the internet 2) Polls are an argument
Did Hillary really have a 98% chance to win? Hmmm.
Logan Reed
Sure it does. Sure it does.
Carter Reyes
>he thinks people on Sup Forums aren't autistic enough to stuff ballots on unsecured polls when one of the first things we did after the presidential debates was stuff ballots on unsecured polls
John Anderson
>Make up shitty greentest to make gayslook bad
Sebastian Hernandez
>Gay people were stigmatized through history
You're missing
-The entire Greek period -The Roman hedonism period where the Emperor fucked foreign diplomats -The Ottoman boytoy period
Jackson King
Let's hope genetic engineering becomes more available, then.
Isaiah Ortiz
If your gay your not going to have sex with a woman you autist the cant get arousal from females.
Nolan Lewis
43 – Roman conquest of Britain begins, creating Roman Britain. Roman Britain adopted Lex Iulia de Adulteriis Coercendis, which criminalized adultery among "males" (heterosexual and bisexual oriented men) and Lex Scantinia, which penalized a sex crime (stuprum) against a freeborn male minor (ingenuus or praetextatus). The Lex Iulia de Adulteriis Coercendis may well have provided for a widely-attested wave of castrations in the Roman Empire, in order to supply sex partners who were not "male"
Michael James
>lower testosterone >naturally more feminine, less muscle, weaker voice >loses out with females >lacks confidence because not alpha male >figures other guys are just as horny as him >gets some dick
I don't think it's purely "biologically gay," but more a set of circumstances that lead to being gay. Avoidable? yes. Knowingly avoidable? Probably not.
Aiden Thomas
gay people should be gassed
Cooper Jones
(citation needed)
Luke Ward
Think of a gene that helps women have more kids by making them unusually highly attracted to men, found on the X chromosome, that in males just makes them attracted to males. The best we can do to cope is have surrogate kids. I have a desire to have kids, I just can't imagine living with a woman. I could do it but it wouldn't feel right.
Leo Wright
And what does this tell you of the validity of polls as an argument, as you've claimed that a stuffed poll can be used to win an argument?
Carson Wright
I'm gay I can get aroused by women, I've had sex with them it just doesn't do anything to me emotionally. I can't feel "in love" with a woman.
Aiden Barnes
>If your gay your not going to have sex with a woman
If you are not vegant, you are not going to eat vegetables ;) You arguement is invalid. Gays still hide in major countries because of anti-gay laws and stigmas.
Even in Chechnya gay people have families, but still buttfuck each other
Isaac Torres
Explain Elagabalus.
Logan Cox
great, now that we have found the gene. Can we finally treat it through gene therapy and remove the homosexual menace from our society?
David Long
>And what does this tell you of the validity of polls as an argument, as you've claimed that a stuffed poll can be used to win an argument? That you need to be careful when polling so that you can get an accurate result.
Not that polls are always worthless all the time and can be dismissed out of hand whenever you disagree with their results.
Bentley Sullivan
How the fuck do you even have sex with women if they don't make your pee pee hard?
Julian Cox
What if a straight person developped a liking for things up their ass through sextoys etc, but still isn't attracted to men despite liking that ? Asking for a friend
Jason Powell
Then your a "bi sexual" Or your not a fag. >comparing food to Homo sexuality Autism
Matthew Diaz
It makes it hard I just don't really enjoy it as intimately. Mechanically it works fine. It would be really awkward to try sober, and that has never happened, so take that for what it is worth.
Sex is better if I care about the other person and I can only really do that on a friend level for women.
Luis Miller
342 – The Roman emperors Constantius II and Constans issued an imperial decree to the Codex Theodosianus, which imposes an "exquisite punishment" for the crime which occurs "when a male gives himself in marriage to an effeminate [femina, literally 'a woman'] and what he wants is for the effeminate to play the male role in sex [literally 'project the male parts']," thus for himself to play the female role.[1]
390 – The Roman emperors Valentinian II, Theodosius I, and Arcadius issued an imperial decree to the Codex Theodosianus, that criminalizes "all persons who have the shameful custom of condemning a man's body, acting the part of a woman's to the sufferance of alien sex (for they appear not to be different from women), shall expiate a crime of this kind in avenging flames in the sight of the people."
Adam Rodriguez
I'm gay. I could only settle down with a man to make me happy.
Chase Kelly
And you'll know the difference between an accurate poll and a stuffed poll how? Because the results agree with you?
Polls are worthless beyond getting a general idea of what a certain group of people is thinking and even that use is questionable. Yes, they can be dismissed out of hand.
Jayden Allen
Pretty evenly divided so far, same as last time when I did a poll of the same sort.
Lucas Wilson
there are probably a dozen or more examples from lesser known civilizations and empires. there were gays, ladyboys, eunuchs... basically back then there was a range of choices from twink to femboy to post-op, at least for its time. no HRT back then so you know the guys acting feminine must have been really fucked up in the head. as much as i think gay behavior is degenerate, satanic, and jewish... it has been a meme in probably at least a dozen big civilizations that historians know about. greece and rome and ottoman are just three more famous ones.
Jaxon Wright
Wait. So the gay gene was a meme, that was disproven, that has suddenly been re-proven?
Oh vey, goyim.
Landon Wood
>openly defending retards >shill >bait No, you're just a fucking Newfag.
There is no gay gene. In Twins with identical DNA, where one was gay and the other wasn't. They had no correlation with homosexual being a birth right.
If it was caused by a freak mutation or disease (cat parasite conspiracy from /x/) that is entirely different than being homosexual from birth. The "citations" being provided are all meme tier at best.
Jacob Foster
The everyone who disagrees with homosexuality is gay meme. Fuck off
Joseph Hall
Being gay might be genetic but the emergence of trans whateverism is most definitely mental illness exacerbated by the age of social media. I used to play this crappy text based role playing game that was like 80% women - all around the same time that the trans fad swept across tumblr there was a sort of domino effect where every other chick suddenly decided that their depression was caused by being the wrong gender. Some would just do the thing where a girl cuts her hair short, wears men's clothes and changes their profile gender to snowflake but others actually started taking hormones and some went as far as getting their boobs surgically removed. I spent a lot of time in the game because Im a depressed NEET and it was almost frightening how many of them would suddenly one day tell me to consider that my depression was due to me possibly being the wrong gender... it's like a mental illness wrapped in a fad but instead of cutting and putting the pictures on MySpace like emos or wearing dog collars and studded hot topic pants like goths in the past youth today are jumping the hormone-injection/new-pronouns-every-day bandwagon.
Sebastian Harris
>Late Rome
That's right. Ignore the vast majority of its' history.
Brandon Powell
>And you'll know the difference between an accurate poll and a stuffed poll how? Because it doesn't have 500 responses all made 2-3 seconds apart consistently for a handful of minutes while someone runs their voting bot you fucking idiot.
I said that somebody /probably would/ stuff the poll, not that the poll /was/ stuffed. Note the tense.
Maybe nobody stuffs the poll and I'm wrong.
I guess we'll see.
>Polls are worthless beyond getting a general idea of what a certain group of people is thinking AKA THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT OF TAKING A POLL.
ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID?
David Wood
Polls are effectively sports matches. Entertaining to watch but their outcomes are meaningless.
Oliver Lee
Good that mean it's possible to exterminate them.
William Bennett
>retards >People are naturally different from me >They dont claim women, so I have more girls to fuck >They are valueable part of society and produce wealth to us >We should probably gas them coz Islam is bad thing! When will poltards pray to Allah?
Ethan Price
That user raised a good point. Scientific data can be skewed by bias, prejudices, and conflicts of interests.
Landon Sanders
>greece and rome and ottoman are just three more famous ones.
They're the most well known because they reached peak wealth.
Says a lot about us
Hunter James
As always, depends on the categories:
Reactionary:Progressive (if we assume the current position is at civil unions) 9:9
Tolerance:Persecution (if we assume tolerance is anything from not-criminalised and up) 11:7.
Luke Wright
sometimes they fuck women so they aren't ostracized
Owen Bailey
hey can you speculate on how the femina plays the male role in sex? were these actual women or faggots? actual women being dominant (all the way up to penetrating my anus, all the way up to elbow deep fisting) is my fetish, sadly. i've never tried it, but i blame pop music and predictive programming subliminal messages.
