You are a degenerate if you smoke Marijuana. Period

I am disgusted by the fact that all these liberals from the_donald have been spreading their shit ideology views on marijuana and that it is "harmful". It is not and you need to KYS if you think it does.

>b-but Alcohol and Tobacco are more harmful that Marijuana

Except the difference here is that Alcohol and Tobacco are legal and are widely distributed than Marijuana. More so, there NO serious scientific/medical evidence that Marijuana is indeed good or harmless.

>Medical Marijuana. Bam. Owned. QED MUDDAFUGGA

Except here is that Marijuana is not regulated by the FDA and the dosage of Marijuana varies. No drug that is approved by the FDA is smoked. Arizona's distribution of medical Marijuana indicates that only 3.76 percent of card holders use Marijuana to ease the symptoms of cancer. Another 1.53 percent suffer from glaucoma while a 1.06 percent have AIDS while in states like Colorado and and California, over 90 percent use it for "severe pain". These individuals are 18-30 years old.

>But you can eat it!!

Same argument as above. Marijuana isn't regulated when it comes to dosage and now dispensaries compete for who has the highest THC level in their weed. How is that going to treat each individual symptoms that Marijuana advocates claim that MJ heals? Hint: It doesnt.

>Yeah OK but it's NOT ADDICTING!!!

False. The 2012 National survey on Drug Use and Health estimates that 2.7 million people 12 years of age and older meet the DSM-IV criteria for dependence on Marijuana. More so, an adolescent brain is much more suspectable to addiction than an adult. This has received support from studies where animals have shown that parental exposure to THC can recalibrate the sensitivity of the reward system to other drugs. That same exposure affects interferes with cytoskeletal dynamics which are critical for the establishment of axonal connections between neurons.

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That it is *harmless

Jesus Christ.

What does something I do bother you so much? Why do you need to police other people and apply labels to them? Do you not see how you are acting like a SJW?

i smoke 1 ounce of private reserve indica and eat 3 240mg bhang bars a week

this

>Why do you care wahhh

Seriously fuck you if you think that way. I will not care when it doesn't affect economic and social costs that will be borne by everyone, including increased health care and treatment costs, lost productivity, absenteeism, work related accidents, drugged driving injuries and deaths.

Eat my ass you filthy nigger. God gives my rights, not you.

You smoke 4 grams a day? Now that's degenerate. I've been toking for over 12 years and an ounce lasts me 4 to 5 months.

I feel you, but consider this: the type of NPC-tier retard that drinks/smokes anything as a 'hobby' is basically irrelevant and was never going to accomplish anything anyways.

NPC-tier. Lets talk about that. There are certain humans who are basically obstacles, or part of the environment. They aren't really people. They don't really do anything. They exist, they whine, they complain, they consume, but they produce nothing of value. Least of all ideas worthy of consideration.

It's not worth wasting energy on worrying what the NPC's are doing with their wasted time. Sell them things to fund your projects, use them as labor, whatever. What happens to them is not important. What they do is not important.

This isn't a 'live and let live' ideology. This is a 'I don't care about peasants with peasant problems', ideology.

>not smoking once a year like alex jones

seriously fuck weedman hes a fuckin degenerate cunt, i smoke ocasionally only to relax, weed makes your mind and body weak

alex jones should smoke 0 times a year he's pretty out there with his paranoid delusions sometimes

>inb4 Where are the stats xDD??

In Colorado alone, the amount of DUI related accidents regarding Marijuana has increased from 8 percent to 15 percent in Jan 1-May 31 2014 since its legalization.

>increased health care and treatment costs
From legalizing marijuana?

>alcohol is legal so it's ok
>marijuana is bad because it will increase healthcare costs, productivity, DUI etc etc

Nice

The first step to being an alpha male is not smoking weed

Only if you are already weak, grasshopper.

>economic and social costs

Are you fucking poor? None of that impacts anybody who is even a tiny bit successful.

If you aren't successful or at least self sufficient then your opinion is also totally worthless.

Let the peasants languish in their dystopia. They exist to be taken advantage of. It was always this way. It will always be this way.

what if maybe its not the govs business what you do to your own body as long as you are not directly hurting anyone else

TLDR

Try being a better poster

spotted the stoners
here have a redpill
i injected 5 marijuanas once

spotted the stoner, here have a redpill and i'm out

It's the most useful plant on earth only a retard would be against it.

So it is on par with Alcohol, do you have a beef with that at all? A DUI is a DUI regardless of drug used.

I think you just want to police other people into thinking only the way you think instead of having their own free will to do what they would like.

Calling out OPs inconsistent opinions makes me a stoner?

Fair enough

Eat a bullet, bitch.

Except if you let that problem slide, its going to affect the society around and cost the country more money to fix. Let's take for example Alcohol. Here in America' it revenues around 8 billion in taxes while the social costs to it totals to around 200 billion dollars around its social costs. I do not agree with the whole "just let peasants be peasents" mentality because the more its accepted, the more destructive its going to be.

Why don't you contribute ti the cause then? Stop whining.

>an ounce lasts me half a year

no way

up your weed intake noob

lol trump beta male

>Let me set example like Alcohol
>Let's legalize another dangerous substance like Marijuana because Alcohol is legal

Stoner logic. Also, despite what your history teachers have told you, prohibition DID work, reducing alcohol use by 70 percent, back when the average American drank around 2.9 gallons of alcohol.

op is a bitter fag who probably gets NO PUSSY

that said, pic related

smoke responsibly

Nothing like living in Alaska and having legal weed. I guess some people have a problem with freedom to do what you want as long as nobody is harmed. Thankfully our courts feel this way also.

Weed is in breastmilk

>I will not care when it doesn't affect economic and social costs that will be borne by everyone

You mean like the DEA and prohibition policy does?

I'm sure that the ability to make a market around a previously illegal drug will more then pay off the general cost of impaired people driving and doing other illegal actions, since a minority of people who get impaired will make these decisions.

An illegal market that people are creating a market in is worse then the "societal cost" of making it legal so that your society can make profit off of it rather then another society profit from it like Mexico.

nice strawman. now do you want to disassemble said strawman with logic and facts? how does occasional recreational pot use harm the economy? Mind you, it has economic benefits as well, so when you're making your argument please consider both sides.

wow i hate weed now. i'm a #boozemissile.

I only need to take 2-3 hits off a bowl and I'll be high for 6 hours. It's strange considering I used to smoke 1-3 grams a day.

I recommend you research some of the (((people))) who have been pushing it. make sure to start in the late 60's or early 70's. having smoked a shit load of weed, I can tell you that it did two things to me: made me very docile, and diminished control of certain impulses (eating, sexual desire). which is right in line with aims of the collective cultural psychotherapy advocated by (((intellectuals))) like horkheimer and adorno

is alaska as cool as it seems? i'd be good as long as the internet works, i think.

I wonder how many people with multiple sclerosis, who experience sever pain, use marijuana.

Im sure we all acknowledge the authority of a LARPing dipshit on Sup Forums. When will retards like you stop spreading your autistic "MUH DEGENERACY" bullshit? fuck off you stupid faggot.

Fuck up, cunt. You can't just pick and choose what's degenerate and what isn't based on if it's legal or not.

The reality of it is - one that you're not willing to admit because you're a degenerate yourself - that Alcohol and Tobacco are just as, if not more degenerate as pot.

One thing I know for sure: if I had to choose to hang around an alcoholic vs. a pothead, you bet your ass I'd choose the latter.

In Canada they plan on having totally plain packaging :(

You see, dipshit, I just want to say that I don't really care what you think about weed or me smoking weed, there is literally nothing wrong with it. And while we're at it, the same thing with tattoes.

You are a faggot who pollutes the air with your $40000 dick replacement and deserves to suffocate in your own basement. Good luck stopping cannabis from replacing your masters' control scheme, worthless shill

This isn't regarding me, this is regarding the country as a whole. Also to note that legalization of Marijuana violates other states' laws.

Of the 274 seizures in 2012, thirty seven different states had been destined to receive marijuana from Colorado. The most common destinations were Kansas (37) Missouri (30) Illinois (22) Texas (18) Wisconsin (18) Florida (16) and Nebraska (13)

Its like letting your neighbor bump his music all the way up and letting him because "Degenerates were born to be losers who cares lolz".

>If you aren't successful or at least self sufficient then your opinion is also totally worthless.

Except who are you to implement that rule? Fucking self righteous cunt.

>They exist to be taken advantage of. It was always this way. It will always be this way.

Yeah no. This clearly shows that you are naive and have no idea what you're talking about

Except you're ignoring the fact that LEGALIZING yet ANOTHER drug will harm others in the long run.

>I think you just want to police people

Yeah I'm so policing people when it comes to stating facts and evidence.

>That same exposure affects interferes with cytoskeletal dynamics which are critical for the establishment of axonal connections between neurons.

i'm a neuroscientist and have no idea what the fuck this is supposed to mean

gonna take the bait here. Don't give a fuck.

ED doc here.

>alcoholics under the age of 30 i have
>Set fractures
>repaired lacerations
>fixed broken noses or teeth
>committed involuntarily
>intubated
>Sedated
>thoracostomied
>pericardiocentesed
>dialyzed
>Pericentesed
>diagnosed with terminal cirrhosis
>Diagnosed with liver cancer
>pronounced dead
>delivered FAS babies
>delivered dead babies
>delivered babies that wouldn't have died if their dumb mother wasn't a drunk

Potheads under 40 ive:
fixed some cuts
fixed a few broken bones
committed some
had that one preggo with cyclic vomitting syndrome
and whole bunch people about to be fucked over by the popo


you tell me which is worse

I dont give a fuck about other states laws, I care about the laws in the sate I live in, stop policing us fag, youre worse than the liberals trying to take everyone's guns

Yum

I own 3 businesses, go to the gym 6 days a week and keep a strict diet and I smoke everyday mostly to fall asleep but sex and marijuana is the best feeling out there.

That being said, Marijuana is addicting for me but I have an addiction prone personality and I think a lot of the burnouts or dependents are people like that who are already prone to addiction. It's not some miracle plant without adverse affects, its great for inflammation and other stuff but it can fry your brain, cause short term memory loss and make you into a complete schizo if you abuse it. Moderation is key!

You are calling anyone who supports a legal market so that people within the US may profit off it a degenerate. It is like calling someone you disagree with a racist. Its just a baseless ad hom.

Besides, the statistics weren't changed very much, it was a 7% increase in weed related DUIs, which will happen to any drug when it is made legal. Increased authority or other laws will help combat this, but it will happen regardless if it is legal or not.

The ability to make a business around weed will create a jobs market within the US, similar to Tobacco and Alcohol. In the end, the good outweighs the bad. If people want to smoke weed, they will. Might as well make some money off it and regulate it.

Tattoes

Oh I don't know... Maybe the whole cost of spending so much in education on our youth since its well known that Marijuana affects IQ, more crime, more abuse treatment costs, more ER visits, more traffic accidents, and fatalities. But yes, let's mindlessly say that Marijuana is helping the economy and therefore should be legal.

>IDGAF

Then you should KYS as well. Since you don't IDGAF either.

>why can't i do whatever i want as long as i'm not hurting anyone
You're supporting an industry that is fucking up my society and because of this you need physical punishment (by the state not me of course)

Painkillers caused severe damage to my stomach. Weed does not make the pain go away but make me not care about it.
If trying to live a life under constant pain makes me degenerate -so be it.

It is none of your fucking business what I prefer to put in my body so cannabis should be legal.

>had cancer
>smoked Marijuana
>cured
>gets called degenerate
>still cured

We aren't advocating that minors smoke weed. Weed only affects IQ in people who are still developing their brain, just like literally any other drug. With proper regulations it will be like alcohol in that you would need to be a certain age to smoke and buy said products.

>u dont agree with me therefore you deserve to be imprisoned and tortured

Elaborate how it is "degrading society", because it is on the same level as Alcohol or Tobacco. We aren't trying to legalize drugs like Meth or Heroine. It sounds like all the anti-weed fags are just uninformed people who think weed is like Meth arguing from ignorance and authority.

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>it's none of your business
imagine if every human being in the world smoked weed every day and did that since the beginning of human civilization

if you can honestly say to yourself that you think we'd have reached as far as we have now in that situation, then fine

but desu i wish you fucks would just admit what you're doing is bad for you and bad for society but you can't help it because life is miserable and you just want to do it anyway and don't give a fuck about any of the morals

the fact that you pretend to rationalize it morally is what disgusts me

>Besides, the statistics weren't changed very much, it was a 7% increase in weed related DUIs, which will happen to any drug when it is made legal.

Yeah way to BTFO yourself. Going back to alcohol after the prohibition era ended, Americans went back to drinking 2.2 gallons again in 1979. You seriously don't think those numbers are going to rise even more regarding DUI accidents and Marijuana? Oh please.

>The ability to make a business around weed will create a jobs market

To whom? The homeless who have felony backgrounds? Also an associated press report from Colorado has stated that since the legalization of Marijuana, it has contributed to an increased of younger people living on the streets. To say that weed helps with job markets is an oxymoron.

not if its legal.

Now that I think of it, i've never met anyone over the age of 25 who defends marijuana. I think most people talk like you in their early teens/twenties, but after having some experience with the drug and the people who use it regularly you start to realize that the common denominator is that everyone who does it regularly is a huge fucking loser

found the statist

Weed is for niggers, dude.

Fuck off. You are one of the morons who think that if pot is legal, everyone will be constantly high. That is as bad as the idiot prohibitionists from a hundred years ago. Maybe you need a nanny state to enforce your senseless morals on everyone. You can just go fuck yourself.

>letting the state impose restrictions on your freedom
Bootlicker prohibitions really need to find more important things to worry about.

Tell me something new

>the state should be allowed to control what i consume
>w-who cares about civil liberties, the (((government))) is benevolent
very good goys in this thread

I am 25 years old you strawman making fucker, I did not start smoking weed until I was 23 because I knew of the effect it will have on a developing brain.

>Fuck off. You are one of the morons who think that if pot is legal, everyone will be constantly high
Wow, you seem emotional because I definitely didn't say that. Maybe take a hit from your bong and relax a little, broski. Then do some logic puzzles and stuff to get your brain going because you seem to have a hard time of understanding the point I was illustrating.

Also it's funny that you post a picture like that and yet the premise of this thread is "is marijuana degenerate?" Really making a case for your side my friend, people who smoke weed definitely aren't mentally ill freaks, no sir.

Come back in 5 years and tell me all of the accomplishments you've accrued in that time ;)

Except age regulations won't help one bit. You have to be 21 to drink alcohol yet nearly ten million underage people currently use alcohol and nearly 6 million of them are binge drinkers. Nearly 25 percent of HS students use Tobacco. The number of teenagers using Marijuana in Colorado is also increasing.

It is a freedom from excess government interference in my private life thing.

A FUCKING LEAF

You sound about as smart as a step dad with as much life-experience as a holographic animation.

I'm 21 and burned out completely, I can't comprehend even basic classes at a community college level and I work at Walmart

Please listen to OP, weed is awful for you in the long run

Yes, people will always find a way around things or ignore the law. Not everyone does this. There is increased access for legal products, but to be honest weed isn't to bad of a drug. It isn't to addictive and has a similar effect as Alcohol. I don't see why we should worry about the minority of bad apples who may do this, unless you are such a nosy person that you feel you need to be involved in everyones life and police them.

>durr sterotypes hurrrrr
tell me how black dicks truly are bigger on average or admit that sterotypes are often false

God, you're certainly white trash.

May I fuck your dirty ass for 10 bucks?

Eat a dick OP. You must work for Big Pharma.

>Be me
>Smoked pot daily since I was 18
>Perfectly healthy
>B.A.R Certified Paralegal
>Made Dean's list
>Cleared $67k last year
>Entering law school this fall

Yeah, it clearly holds you back. GTFO with your bullshit OP.

...

>Recent national statistics show that, among fatally injured drivers who were randomly selected for drug testing (excluding tobacco, alcohol, and medications administered after the crash), more and more are testing positive for marijuana. In 2009, the rate of positive tests had increased to one in three. Among positive tests, marijuana was the most common drug found."

Anyone here in Brisbane that sells good shit, not dirt. You got a new customer

This is a slide thread. They make weed threads daily because they know people are divided on this issue and its guaranteed replies. Stop falling for it.

>not enjoying a nice pipe of cannabis like the founding fathers did

youtube.com/watch?v=t-mEDPlJHEM

Testimonials are not scientific evidence, friendo.

dank

Yeah but you can just be snarky and ignore me and pretend everything's fine. Then when you're one of the other millions of sedated, dociles losers wasting away into his 30s you might not even remember my posts

what are you babbling about now? The only studies niggers have bigger dicks in are self-reported ones, other than that it's pretty inconclusive. You know stereotypes are different from statistics, right? Maybe you spend too much time watching cartoons.

You are brainwashed by the Jews if you don't grow and smoke weed.

This is worse than those "ghetto" facebook memes

Who cares if it's good or harmless? I severely doubt inhaling smoke regardless of it's source is harmless, but that doesn't stop people from getting lung cancer from cigarettes or fucking up their livers, both of which are legal. The government just needs to legalize it and tax the shit out of it like they do with alcohol and tobacco. Make some money off of people's vices.

I grow my weed.
Kys yourself nigger.

>increased health care costs and treatment
treatment for what exactly? are you aware of how many more people are hospitalized due to alcohol use than marijuana?
>lost productivity
not an argument, no proof
>absenteeism
no proof
work related accidents
just because something is legalized recreationally does not mean somebody should be using drugs while working. not an argument
>drugged driving injuries and deaths
like all those caused every day from alcohol, a drug that impairs far far more than weed?

nice try op but your arguments suck and you're a faggot

Because we live in a shithole with a shit pm and a shit premier. Can't even get Backwoods over here.

Where should we be looking then?