Sup Forums communism general

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

archive.is/E3RCx
archive.is/LRe05
pastebin.com/vPZPyDhK
pastebin.com/TzZC78cp
thegreateststorynevertold.tv/
youtu.be/kzIRG525l6s
youtu.be/N-UFlHtWrLA
youtu.be/MhGQrryQPfM
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/
gommies.gom/ohfugme/
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/
youtube.com/watch?v=7XLlG1SfKj8
webofdebt.com/articles/bankrupt-germany.php
sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/sovietcollapse.htm
anyforums.com/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

More resources on communism:
archive.is/E3RCx
archive.is/LRe05
pastebin.com/vPZPyDhK
pastebin.com/TzZC78cp

Videos:
thegreateststorynevertold.tv/
youtu.be/kzIRG525l6s
youtu.be/N-UFlHtWrLA
youtu.be/MhGQrryQPfM

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rev up those helicopters, boys.

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The best thing about communism is that no innocent people have died at the hands of their ideology

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Just to let you know

yes goyim, the only way to save the white race is on Mr. (((Shikelgruber)))'s wild debt ride

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kek'd

leftypol pls

Can we begin by sending all Sup Forumsacks to the gulag

>posting a socialist
>calling me leftypol
wew lad

Kek. Grow up you fucking child

Hitler was not a real socialist

you think we don't know your retarded plan?

Did you read the pic retard? He had another definition of socialism. He hated both the retarded communists and the capitalist pigs
youtu.be/kzIRG525l6s

>Goebbels
How can you depends on capitalism and bankers money and complain about it at the same time. He was a schizophrenic

bc they didn't
leftypol pls, stop sounding retarded and get educated about natsoc before giving your shitty opinion on it

>leftypol
>worth listening to in any capacity

Tempting but let's give them a chance there are lot of teenagers here that might be not completely helpless.

>you think we don't know your retarded plan?
to expose that Hitler was a Jewish plant to ruin white nationalism by tying it to the failed economic ideology of socialism?

the national socialist economy was based on running massive debt and then pillaging surrounding countries to pay it off. It was doomed to failure for the same reason the Roman economy was. Once Hitler stopped conquering, the state's social policies would rapidly dry up their budget, forcing them to either start a suicidal war or slash all of their social programs

YOU FUCKING COMMIE, YOU ARE A SPANIARD, YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.

BEFORE FRANCO RESTORED SOME DECENCY IN YOUR COUNTRY AT THE COSTS OF TOO MANY DEATHS TO PHANTOM,

YOUR DISGUSTING SOCIALIST (((DEMOCRATS))) AND COMMUNISTS GAVE ALL THE PUBLIC HELD GOLD OF SPAIN TO THE SOVIET UNION, IN A TIME IN WHICH SPAIN HAD THE 4TH OR 5TH LARGEST GOLD RESERVES IN THE WORLD.

SPAIN NEVER SAW THE GOLD AGAIN. YOU ARE ADVOCATING COMMUNISM STILL?

YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO HUMANITY AND SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO BREATH IN SPAIN YOU FUCKING ROJO, MAL PARIDO, HIJO DE P...

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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

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Uh... You seem to ignore that not all spanish socialists and communists at the time of the civil war were supporters of the Soviet Union, ya inbred piece of shit

Why /communism/ when all that it entails is sitting in a circle and eating feces?

the largest faction was and one of the reasons the Republican side lost was because the Stalinist Communist Party spent more time killing their allies than fighting the Francoists

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best thing i've ever read

Where gan i sign ub?
9/10 woulb reab againz

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I never understood how "workers own the mean of production". It just seems so abstract.

Is it possible to quantify collective ownership?

Finally, if workers own the means of production whatever that means, then who owns the product?

>ya inbred piece of shit

So does some bot create these threads or is there some jobless faggot Spaniard spamming them 24/7?

wtf i love marx now
youtube.com/watch?v=7XLlG1SfKj8

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

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kek

Ah yes, the classic "fuck people who don't want to be trampled on" argument of the degenerate left, demonstrating clearly the contempt in which they hold the lower classes.

Oh, is that what this copypasta is? And here I thought it was some inbred spaniard trying to make his beliefs seem more popular by posting the same thing seven fucktillion times

>comes on Sup Forums and spams shitty threads anyway.
i guess its only the jews who are intelligent in the communist community, but they are the ones running the commie show anyway so you and your little college debt buddies don't have to do the thinking, just be ready to receive gimmie dats and starve.

Communism works by assuming that the only legitimate labor is producing food and industrial tools, when they talk about seizing the means of production, they ignore all the industries that produce no physical items, or ones that are arbitrarily deemed "not socially useful"

Seizing the means of production means collectivizing farms and factories that can be used to produce industrial tools, then wondering why no one wants to live the life of a literal wage slave when the logistics train collapses and there are no consumer goods

>Hitler
>Jewish plant
broofs?
Why should I believe that without proofs? Your plan is literally telling us communism is the best for white nationalism, yet you have not a single proof.

>the national socialist economy was based on running massive debt and then pillaging surrounding countries to pay it off.
Wow, awesome research (sarcasm if you didn't realize)
By the way, keep in mind that Germany was in bankrupt before the rise of Hitler, for obvious reasons, and Hitler conducted the "economic miracle". Oh and both France and England hated the Third Reich, and I won't mention the USSR. And finally, the jews boycotited the 3rd Reich (can't find the pic of the newspapers, so check the video at It is at 3:45, not the best quality, but still)

And please, check the /nsg/ threads, it includes books on its economy.
And here is a link on it, is very short, but still: webofdebt.com/articles/bankrupt-germany.php

And check this one sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/sovietcollapse.htm

>Your plan is literally telling us communism is the best for white nationalism,
Wrong, a free market society where people are conscious of Jewish lies and tricks is
>yet you have not a single proof.
The inevitable end of welfare state policies is the continual expansion of debt and government power until one can no longer expand enough to maintain the other

Hitler's alleged economic miracle was paid off with Austria's gold reserves and by nationalizing the (at the time far superior to Germany's) Czech auto industry. Once WW2 was in full swing, the continual flow of resources from Germany's occupied zones and puppets (after the fall of France, up to 25% of German revenue was "tribute" from the Vichy regime) maintained the Fatherland until the Allies liberated them and conquered Germany

By proof, I was refering to the Jewish thing you said

>Once WW2...
We all know that and the nazi gold thing

>By proof, I was refering to the Jewish thing you said
mostly a joke, Hitler's mother had an incredibly Jewish sounding name and his failures definitely helped international Jewry (even if his ideas would have worked in practice) so it's easier to get the attention of national socialists by prefacing your arguments against them with assertions that Hitler was a Jew

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I don't trust mob decisions, and I don't trust commie authoritarians nor the owners of production in anarcho socialism due to their end game and lack of sustainability in a world of varying degrees of selfishness and varied ideologies.

Communism is incompatible with multiculturalism btw.

Stupid fucking ideologies, as bad as fucking theism.

>white islam
>islam
>communism

Is it cringe gerenal night

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>give me your redpills /leftypol/
Specifically, the work you do is always worth more than what you are paid, because the capitalist can sell whatever it is you produce for more than you were paid in wages. The productive forces of our society are controlled by a tiny elite instead of by the people, so what ends up happening is that millions of proles sweat their lives away while the porky bastards windsurf in Hawaii.
To put it in terms you might be more familiar with, capitalists are the ultimate welfare queens.
>my stance on hatred of jews and niggers will never change.
To say that your position on any topic will never change is to declare yourself to be beyond reason. That said, those "jews" and "evil niggers" are your natural allies regardless of what you think about them, because they are being exploited just like you are. The leftist position on racism is as much about pragmatism as it is about a commitment to equality.

The basic gist is that capitalism is inherintly broken.
Companies want to make as much money as possible which means paying works the smallest amount possible.
Eventually workers can't afford to buy things, meaning the whole system collapses.
Currently with automation we are going to see a huge loss of jobs that will make the concept of full employment obsolete - so who is going to buy things?
Communism isn't some grand fucking conspiracy about race or western civilization - its just a question of economics.