Leftypol will defend this

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ACTUALLY goyim it was 11 trillion people. I'll let you off with a warning, just don't fuck up next time, k?

Marxism =/= Stalinism

This would be like calling a Mexican deportation policy genocide.

>Marxism =/= Stalinism
Ever notice how nothing in historical Communism "is real Marxism"? How high does your IQ have to be to realize what a bullshit apologist meme that is?

no.
faggot.

Why is it my fault that people rely on the government to gibemdat?
Genocide is correlated with totalitarianism, not Communism.

Every significant installation of communism has resulted in the deaths of millions of innocents.
Stalin
Mao
Pol Pot
Kim Il-Sung
Even ignoring the deaths of millions, the installation of every single communist government has resulted in a massive removal of citizen's freedoms - expression, movement, association.
Why on god's green earth would anyone advocate for a system so obviously broken?

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>spotted the blatant marxist
Wow good job

Childish

Stalin was based though, so was the notorious anti-semite Karl Marx.

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>stormfags will defend this

This. People who defend Marxism at this point in history are simply enablers of genocide. End of story.

Those weren't real communism. Those were just dictators taking advantage of communism. Communism has only GOOD intentions

when you try to bring up all the people who have starved under capitalism, you get the same bullshit "it's just nature brah" apologism

>being just as devastated about someone killing 20 million people than someone killing 11 million.

Yeah what's up with all these stormfags amirite?

>Pol Pot
>Communist
Never go full retard.

We both hate cucks, SJWs, globalists and liberals. Also /leftypol/ is with Le Pen. We should unite.

That's because those countries weren't ready. Marx wrote that communism should arise naturally from the advanced capitalism, not through violent revolutions in underdeveloped countries. This is where the West is heading to.

Communism is such a farce, you want communism ask for it if answer is no then state is what you get

Jewish indoctrination through television but mostly academia

I prefer working with nisguided socialists as natsoc than exploitative capitalists.

>not real gommienism :DDDDD
Every time your system is implemented capitalist economies dominate you over in 30-40 years and your nation slowly gets more third world to collapse

It's funny to see, honestly. Saw a small microcosm of it here in canuckistan over the last 20ish years.
In the 90s, Preston Manning found the Reform Party of Canada - a right-wing group with right-wing conservative beliefs to counter the left-wing viewpoint that permeated (and still does) Canadian politics. He entered into it with the best of intentions, and firmly believed in what he was saying. At the time, I may not have agree with everything he said, but I respected the fact he was open and honest about his policies, and had reasonable facts and figures to back them up.
Then came Stephen Harper.
Who took the grassroots support Manning had created, and used it for his own gains. While I'm sure a few fellow canucks will go on and fucking on about how awesome Harper is, Harper was not a conservative. Harper was in it for Harper, and his cronies. He just used the zeitgeist of "fuck the liberals" to hijack the agenda for his own personal gain.

The precise same way that any grassroots communist movement would be hijacked.

Which is exactly why communism can never, and should never, be implemented. The totalitarian aspect required to implement communism always results in a dictatorial government only in it for themselves. The same way Harper would be if he could have suspended the Canadian constitution.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Stalin as a cunt.
As was Hitler.
Brexit is a mistake.
As is Trump.

OY VEEY
Have you never heard of the inter-dimensional time traveling gas chambers in school!?!?? Infinite jews died then!
Please educate yourself.

True. Pol Pot was the greatest capitalist of all time.
right?

Its cause communism can't be done in the real world its a fantasy the left likes to jerk off too

Capitalist or more like Western economies had dominated Russia and China even before communism. On the contrary, it allowed them to catch up very quickly and become superpowers.

Judging by the amount of randroid kikes and white nigger "nationalists" in Russia, Communist killed NOT ENOUGH.

But the Nazis killed JEWS! That makes it worse than any other genocide. Because they were JEWS!

I'm a Strasserite so I fit in better with Trotskyists than fascists.

Who had better rights of workers and better pay/conditions nsdap party or Leninism?

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Find one example of communism that hasn't in practice, been a totalitarian dictatorship

But you're misguided.

Russia was a third world country, whereas Germany was an advanced industrial nation so the two cannot be compared. Capitalism did well under Hitler, not as much so as Mussolini or of course Pinochet but well nevertheless, and the unions weren't labour unions in a bottom-up sense of the word.

Trotskyists are one of the worst. Basically, all SJW and spics right now are hardcore Trotskyites.
Maybe only ones who unironically believed in Sartre's bullshit (see: Pol Pot) or the primate of agrarian nation over industrial one were worse.

I don't think I am. Jewish finance capitalism is to blame for pretty much everything going wrong in the west at the moment.

I would rather starve to death as a result of my own incompetence, than starve to death because I own nothing, because my government doesn't recognize the right to personal property.

There is no perfect system, and only a fool tries to chase one.

Hitler was socialist and had the best model for a socialist state with minimal conflicts, racial and such, there existed no skinheads in the nsdap state

m.youtube.com/watch?v=_9pWjwp9W7Q

>Third world country

It's a bit of underestimation. It was almost total shithole with aristocracy being degenerate imbeciles who didn't give a fuck as long as they have their parties and shit like that.

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#NotAllMusli- I mean, #NotAllCommunists

At the end however, capitalist economies always triumph

No racism existed in nsdap, completely removed racism.

should have tallied in Mao with Stalin for added pep

You didn't see hate sooechbregarding race in Germany at the time nor any hate violence.

>doesn't understand significant figures

Unsurprising from a rural and suburban retard.

>implying nazis like capitalism

i-it w-wasn't real c-communism... right g-goys?

Has there ever been a climactic, or at least established fight over the precipice, fundamentals or just gearing of a country's capitalist or democratic preferences?

Maoism and Stalinism were at conflict, socialism was literally collapsed to form communism in Bolshevik times, there's always conflicts with communist countries whether internally or external on grand scales...

I understand yes there are conflicts associated with government ideals (especially the goals of capitalism) but it never really seems like democratic or slight capitalist societies really infight all that much on the philosophy, compared to communist-socialists.

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Feel the wrath in his eyes, user...

Wrong.
You just cherrypicked Stalinist regimes.

communism is totalitarianism

I SEE COMMIES

Yeah, it sucks when you cherrypick what all communist governments turn into.

Give me examples of successful communist governments that don't turn into totalitarian shitholes.

The Paris Commune. The Ukraine Free Territory.

>Wrong.
NO U

Seychelles, Yugoslavia (to a degree) until 1980, or the Paris Commune.

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jackie chan

And pray tell, what happened in Yugoslavia post 1980?
I'll ask my ex's dad, who spent time in a yugoslav jail as a political prisoner for having the temerity to have an opinion contrary to the official line.

Again, name a successful communist government that hasn't turned into a totalitarian shithole.

You didn't read my fucking post. I said before 1980. Nationalist elements began subverting the country later.

Because leftists are cucks youtu.be/5UNwjB-k6aI

>le famine meme

Yes, the russians killed dozens of millions of people in gulags by not properly cycling crops. That is how they died. Not forced labor, or mass shootings, or intentionally trapping people in caves and letting them die of thirst, it was due to misproper management of crop rotations.

Where's the 2 billion killed by capitalism along with the "This system is perfect" meme?

Humans will always corrupt the ideals of communism. Why is that so hard for you idiots to realize?

>Nationalist elements began subverting the country later.
> starts out awesome, communists turn it to shit

Ooooh - so you can't name one that hasn't turned into a shithole.

What's there to defend? Socialism kills.

killing is still killing, you ape

it's almost as if that's the natural result of a bunch of ideological retards seizing the means of production

How in the fuck did Hitler killed 11 million when only in SU more than 27 million were murdered?

Unless this is subtle implication that Easter Europeans are not people.

I'm sure that's comforting to their families.
"Hey, your dad died not because we put a bullet into him, but because our brute incompetence and indifference to human life caused him to slowly starve and freeze to death."

You're such a good comrade.

>Easter Europeans
Those fuckers worship a bunny laying chocolate eggs.
I'll be long dead in the cold ground before I acknowledge Easter Europeans.

And everytime you bring this up someone will argue "But that wasn't real communism so it doesn't count."

Absolutely.
The irony is, this is precisely what real communism is as it's what every single iteration of communism will turn into - regardless of the good intentions set out during the revolution.

jews behind both
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>11 million
Did you deny the 6 gorrilion dumb goy

They were both better than the systems the preceded them.

I'm a Strasserite and I fit in better with fascists. Why are you associating us with Trotscum? Even most other Marxists fucking hate them.