The problem with Sup Forums

The biggest issue I see with Sup Forums and websites like Sup Forums in general is the structure in which conversation takes place. It doesn't offer room for intellectualism or fact-based refutation. It operates entirely on clickbait, imagery and quick replies, especially on the faster boards like Sup Forums. On other websites such as NYT, reddit or more traditional forums, you are able to view and respond to a post hours after it has been made. This type of structure offers a much more intellectual-based dialog in which points can be refuted with facts and highlighted to be seen by many. In short, this disparity creates a very clear divide in political opinions and views - one based on facts and intellectual standards, and one based on imagery and propaganda.

What does Sup Forums think?

>African proverb
Lmao

Niggers

If something doesn't catch on here, it goes away. Survival of the fittest. Also, fuck off faggot

>It doesn't offer room for intellectualism or fact-based refutation.
A place with no egos, no names, where every info and image can be checked, sorry colleges were teachers hold the truth is the right place.

Education is the real ignorance.

>try ignorance
>they actually did it
Fucking niggers can't even understand their own proverbs

Fuck off

Sup Forums is based on thread topics and replies, the viewer has an unbiased opinion of them because there is no ''voting'' system and minimal admin interference. Sup Forums is for thoses who can quickly gage sarcasm,irony,crude humor, etc etc. from legitimate opinions/news/theories. You must seek sources to validate your opinions on things, and not follow the trend of ''likes/dislikes'' and other faggotery

I think this is pretty good (You) bait.

>other websites such as NYT

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSHAHDAHBAHBHABHB

It's funny how Sup Forums always is right about world events, while NYT, reddit or more traditional forums users are more worried about their profile and reputation than the actual idea, but here, there is no names, no pics, just crude plain ideas.

No emoticons either

>then go back to

>>>>>>>>>reddit

>unbiased opinion
Unfortunately there is a staunch anti-intellectual culture that is prevalent here, see here for example:

That is some great bait; but if you are for some reason actually interested in that sort of structure mypostingcareerdot.com is probably the best example of alternative rightwing discourse; caveat: bit of a circle jerk but that is a consequence of the design to enforcing the high quality posting and the personalities are for the most part not bad. The problem is that what you are calling bugs are actually features of this site; the format for this site is to reduce barrier of entry and circle jerking.

Sorry, are you ok? Did he hurt your feelings?
Science and thinking is not about being polite and educated, respecting everyone ideas and being nice, is about ideas and and discussing ideas. What you call intellectual culture is just a bunch o idiots who want to fell good, not discuss.

Nigger

>African proverb on education
>African education

lol?

>reddit
>intellectual-based dialog
>pick one
>???
>Profit!!!!

seriously reddit and intellectual-based dialog? are you fucking kidding me? reddit is even worse than Sup Forums when it comes to dialogue, this place is full with people living in their own bubble and they are censoring everything that they dont like, atleast we tolerate free speech

they may have taken it literally

They couldn't afford an education so they tried out ignorance and found out it was actually quite affordable. Been working for them ever since.

Go to Voat faggot and don't come back. That offers your shit format but isn't completely brainwashed. That drawn out format is great for posts about things but not for debates.

>anti-intellectual
No, it's antisemitic and anti-pseudointellectual, which is why you feel out of place

2 things newfag:

1: Sup Forums used to be a slow board where threads lasted

2: if something catches on threads get made again and again ad nauseam until the most useful bits are distilled into memes.

you are a faggot. kill yourself.

>Science
I don't know if you have ever read a peer-reviewed scientific journal, but generally speaking the publication stays up for quite a while so that there is ample time for counter-points, analysis, criticism, and critique. So in this context, you can see that the structure of Sup Forums and Sup Forums is inherently anti-scientific. This is further evident by the fact that users here reject even the most basic of scientific fact (global warming, climate change, etc) while other online communities are working to embrace science and prominent scientific figureheads.

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you do realize you can make a new thread, right? If what you have to say is genuinely so important or profound, then post it

But also, unless you're doing a really big info dump, if you can't respond within 5 or 10 minutes, you are not informed on the issue and your contribution is already worthless.

The debate is over. Chaos is king and the devil shall inherit the earth. We're simply aware of that, being society's (((losers))) and all. We know that (((progress))) is a myth as it can never be assured, the future being fundamentally unpredictable. Why do you think we jizzed our pants over Trump? Because we know ressentiment when we see it and know of its all consuming power. Don't confuse Stormfag astroturfing for legit user. They have an (((agenda))), we know the world is not headed for a final destination.

>It doesn't offer room for fact-based refutation.

It does tho

Mass downvoting of controversial opinions kills productive discourse. You end up with purple prose circle jerks.

I think you are a newfag.

>African proverb
>looks at Africa
>????
Lmao niggers

>I don't know if you have ever read a peer-reviewed scientific journal, but generally speaking the publication stays up for quite a while so that there is ample time for counter-points, analysis, criticism, and critique.
Top fucking kek. Spoken like a high school kid who has never participated in the process of actually making a journal. There are 18 year old retards in colleges right now doing mundane shit with little supervision from their professors, and 9 times out of 10 they'll get whatever stupid shit they're doing published. Also, 99% of all studies coming from the chinks are guaranteed to have skewed data.

t. Actual published author

>>African proverb

ignorance is free
checkmate africa niggers

Could u be any more wrong? Kek says, no. Now fuck off reddit faggot.

The beauty of publishing research is that there's nobody there to check against your results.

That's the entire point of the publish, to get your shit out there and see if anyone will bite, see if anyone will try to prove your research fallible.

If you follow proper method it will be too much work. If your research cost any amount of money to do, nobody is going to invest to prove otherwise.

You have high profile studies that outright lie. Studies about smoking, studies about the impact of dietary sugar intake. This shit doesn't get uncovered until well after you've made tenure.

100 years and trillions of dollars later we still don't know much about the human body. We've learned more in less time looking at DNA because the research is cheap enough to do and people can't get away with total bullshit.

They didn't retain the information.

This is not an African proverb.

Citation needed.

>Women are the foundation of the home and the man is the roof. The roof rules above the foundation and protects it.

African proverb

He's not coming back, he had to get in on a consensual gangbang at his final club.

The vast majority of published scientific papers are never even cited by other authors, much less repeated.

>even the most basic of scientific fact (global warming, climate change, etc)

First of all, separating out global warming and climate change doesn't make them two different things, but more importantly, there's nothing "simple" about them. That's why climatologists got it completely fucking wrong over the last couple decades and lost much of their credibility, because they misunderstood the systems and made bad assumptions, leading to models which failed to be predicatively valid.

I'm still here, my connection was interrupted

>The great spirit created all the tribes in tbeir own place with their own land and made them uniquelh suited to it. To bring one tribe into another is like unto bringing the antelope into a pride of lions. Only blood.

African proverb.

Take your own advice, nigger.

>If man was meant to be cold he would have fur. The lands of winter are not for real men.

African proverb.

Take your highbrow discussion to leddit

>If women had the right to choose who could breed them, he would not have made their bodies open to any man strong enough to pierce them

African proverb.

you are a smug piece of shit who doesn't get hyperkinetic memetics.

> If liquor stores were not meant to be robbed, they would give the firewater away for free.

African proverb

Yet none of those provide a way for the user to say what they truly think without social repercussions. Now fuck off if you don't like it.

Your observation is correct, but pointless.

This is Sup Forums, man. Were you really expecting something serious or valuable coming out of here?

> If a bitch nigga walks into da hood and talks oreo shit to real niggas he gets to know why niggas keep it real n shieet.

African proverb.

Well, you really have no other choice.

OP doesnt understand memetics. Specific posts from specific users may fall off the board but the most engaging ideas are propagated and refined by other users ad infinitum. We are capable of steering culture.

> A nigga can live in france but franks are white and a nigga is black and will always be a nigga.

African proverb

Yes that's why Sup Forums has very unbiased nigger/kike/liberal hate threads 24/7 and everyone is screaming on the top of their lungs to get heard.

you're telling me niggers made that proverb?
k

>that why niggers choose ignorance.

>White man is good for maoing virtue signalling ooga booga noises about tribe to make us seem strong.

African proverb

The format is a human algorithm that can scale up the production of consumable culture. Give the board flexible but generally coherent ideological parameters and it will crank out grass roots propaganda. We're beating them at their own game.

reddit is good for some things, but for political discussion its a cucked safespace

I got banned for using the expression "camel fucker". Also you say a single thing the pussies dont like you get downvote brigaded

Like kekism for example?
Or how Obama is really a muslim born in Kenya?

dear god!

somebody hurt his feelings!

Yes. Bane-posting, from which kekism is partially derived, is the greatest example, in my mind.

Kill yourself faggot ....sage plz

Great posts get screenshotted and sometimes incorporated into infographics with data, citations, etc.

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Sup Forums is not afraid to challenge the narrative. Obama born in kenya and the flat earth conspiracy theorists are here but dont have a voice.

What Sup Forums is is the last cultural bastion of western imperialism. The belief that western civilization is inherently superior based upon common beliefs and the intrinsic superiority of its people.

Here, people can unabashedly say that there is nothing wrong with their culture. That there is nothing wrong with being born white. That we as a people have value. That the effort to diminish that value and ignore our contrabutions to all of humanity is a vile corruption of history.

Here, we are not afraid to say that history is dead and changeable.

>claims to be about science
>generalizes 4 chan users calling them anti-science and global warming deniers
Kill yourself plz

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Is not dead and changeable. Fucking hell the english language is the on fucking thing that needs to be purged
Frigging context specific words.

>pic
>t. uneducated african, probably a nigress

Intellectual culture is literally a spook. You can be educated without constantly referring to yourself as an intellectual. At that point, you're grasping for status straws and you're most likely a faggot.

On the contrary, the fast moving board forces one to know their argument without using mental gymnastics to make excuses and justifications.

>global capitalism
>global economics
So globalism?
>forcing westerners to compete for wages with jasjot and inderpreets' third world lifestyle is good
This is why we're capitalist and nationalist.

PROOF ISRAEL IS OUR GREATEST ALLY

stormfags btfo

PROOF ISRAEL IS OUR GREATEST ALLY

PROOF ISRAEL IS OUR GREATEST ALLY

ur a fag

go back to ur intelectualismic sites you fag

Yeah Sup Forums challenges the general narrative when it fits the narrative of its users. It's some sort of poor devil's advocate where every piece of shit gets thrown around until a measly nugget of an argument appears that gets cherished into oblivion.

tl;dr HOMO

《《《Intellectual fact based arguements》》》

>African Proverb

Maybe the Africans ought to pay attention to their own proverbs

Leafjew detected.

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>African proverb

>What does Sup Forums think?
That you are full of shit..

The lack of moderation, lack of shaming/silencing tactics and lack of political correctness more than makes up for the format.

Places like NYT and Reddit restrict acceptable speech and acceptable viewpoints to the point that intellect based discussion is all but impossible.

blacks would say that since they get their college educations for free

>african intellectuals

you're not presenting intellectual arguments, faggot

This leaf gets it, why would Sup Forums want to be like the thousands of other websites similar to Reddit anyways?? If you think that Reddit's system is better than Sup Forums then by all means please go to Reddit.

Then what does that make /leftypol/?
They have the exact same format and they haven't done jack shit

>intellectual based dialog
>getting banned for saying the "wrong" opinions

Yeah so intellectual

Thread die fast on Sup Forums but ideas float around for a long time. Your point is irrelevant because u are a newfag who should lurk more

You didn't think much about this before posting, huh?

Shit memes

there is no narrative of pol users, at least not anymore than any other forum. pol is easily the most diverse community.

Sup Forums is the epitome of the egalitarian ideal.
Here your indentity is irrelevant. It doens't matter your race/religion/sexual orientation/etc. as everyone's voice carries equal weight. That makes it difficult to divide and conquer along identity lines.
Here opinions can't be censored. You will be heard and you will be judged solely on the merit of the idea you put forward. The PC police have no authority here so every topic and thought is open for discussion.
This lead to the truest for of civil discourse left in this world, but you must come prepared to think on your feet. These converstations can take place very quickly. You need to organize your ideas and the sources to back up your claims before you get here.
Remember those few things and you'll find this place can have some very intellectual conversations.

Did you honestly expect to find constructive, intellectual discussion on a Mongolian basket weaving forum??? I know you're trying to sound smart, but if this is seriously the case then I'd highly recommend you to step away from your computer and think about what your doing right now.

You can have proper discussions on Sup Forums, even if the time frame is limited (gotta keep the content fresh). The best thing about the format is that it keeps pseudointellectual fags like you away since idiots can't adapt to the forum culture

>evident by the fact that users here
Ok I'm gonna have to stop you for a second. Anyone can post (almost) anything here with no repercussions; if you're only here to find something to back up your point, that's trivial. People who want to be scientific bring the scientific method to Sup Forums, Sup Forums itself has no inherent 'scientificness'. As outside for rule-breaking, there's no moderation, you need to decide whether or not to acknowledge the validity of the posts you read. For example, your instant quoting of simply illustrates that you aren't doing that, and are simply here to cherrypick sentiment to suit your agenda.

Sup Forums isn't a traditional forum, rather it's based on ephermality, so trying to use it like one is stupid.