French presidential candidate Emmanuel Macron appeared to cement his position as the front-runner after his clash with far-right rival Marine Le Pen in Wednesday evening's final TV debate.
French pundits, newspapers and a highly regarded viewers' poll all declared the centrist candidate the most convincing.
The candidates traded insults for more than two hours, arguing over terrorism, the economy, and Europe.
The second round run-off between the pair takes place on Sunday.
Both candidates were hoping to make an impression on the estimated 18% of undecided voters in the first election the country has ever held without a candidate from the two traditional mainstream parties.
The French broadcaster BFMTV found viewers had a more favourable view of Mr Macron than Ms Le Pen in most categories.
Clinton was declared winner of everything beforehand
Nolan Edwards
People are already calling him the next French President...
how much of a chance does she really even have?
Landon Perez
OF COURSE.
I watched it. I hate Macron with a passion but even then I admit he was the winner. He was clear, polite, and simply exposed his thesis.
What Le Pen did was getting angry, trying to hurt the other guy more than she tried to really put he program out there.
She failed, miserably.Macron will have an easier time not only with the press (they've always been in bed) but wit ha majority of voters now. MLP shot herself in the foot. Shame.
Jacob Reed
She doesn't. Literally everything and everyone is against her. You can tick all the boxes: Former politicians, trade unions, entertainers, foreign leaders, the press, the looks, the age...
Benjamin Reed
It was a good run.
Coup 2017.
Christopher Rodriguez
If 5, le pen wins. If else, shitposter.
Brandon Ross
So was Hillary in all of her debates and look who won.
Thomas Baker
Mon dieu
Alexander Ross
Fuck off faggot shill.
Isaac Jenkins
>French pundits, newspapers and a highly regarded viewers' poll all declared the centrist candidate the most convincing.
This is the exact same bullshit they tried with Trump. Even when he clearly dominated the debates (whether primaries or against clinton) the media kikes still pretended that his opponents were the unquestionable winners.
Dylan Lewis
No, France isn't America.
Leftist heritage is deeply ingrained within each of us. It is only surpassed by the extreme, rabid hatred targeting the so-called far right which bring nasty images back of when we were conquered by the Nebul at-zees.
Carson Carter
just like Trump, right?
Jose Rodriguez
anyone got the subtitled video?
Aaron Perez
See you guys in 4-5 years if anything remains of europe.
Sebastian Wood
You probably don't know my country if you think she did well. Self-criticism is necessary to the survival of a cause because it leads to improvement.
If no one tells MLP how bad she was now, how do you expect her to win in 2022, 2027 or 2032?
Daniel Wright
Trump had the electoral college, it doesn't exist in France
Austin Stewart
...
Caleb Morales
The American Trump had a hidden base of voters who didn't openly state their choice. In France, for the past ten years, people voting for the FN haven't been shy about it at all.
Camden Johnson
Good, let them burn
Michael Nelson
He's right though.
Macron is the worst shit ever for France But Le Pen was dumb here, she sucked at the debate.
Caleb Watson
>Debate "winner"
>"centrist"
>"highly regarded"
>"poll"
Kek.
Anyway, there is no way she's winning. The French are too weak. Too Jewed.
Luke Bell
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John Ortiz
Well, to be fair, if Le Pen wins the Euro as we know it will probably not exist in 4-5 years. It will be each country for itself like the old days.
Daniel Allen
The polls in our country aren't fake.
Watch the polls about the first round.
Nicholas Nelson
how do i get a french gf lads
Christian Diaz
Quick rundown on why we care about french elections in the first place? What happens if Macron wins? What happens if Le Pen wins?
Brandon Bailey
I believe that she will win! I believe that she will win! I believe that she will win! I believe that she will win!
Blake Williams
I'd more trust why I see here on Sup Forums. Young white french men don't seem to like Le Pen and if she can't appeal to them, she has no appeal.
Her biggest fans are Americans and Brits. That speaks volumes.
Parker Long
>He was clear, polite, and simply exposed his thesis. Except for this part, I agree.
Blake Allen
He was MOST OF THE TIME clear, polite and exposed his shitty thesis as if it was simple.
Liam Lewis
What about the people?
Nathaniel Perez
Go to Paris with a roll of halal meat and lure them into a cage. Then you become a warlord in syria and can keep as many of them as you like.
Jayden Cruz
This. France vs USA:
*More accurate polls *No silent majority *Much more left-leaning *Big factor, we were actually invaded during WWII, even now it's common to hear "FN is fascist" BS, people obviously vote against that. *Le Pen only garners support from rurals & the youth. The suburbs, the cities, the old, the middle-aged and the govt servants all vote to her left.
Joshua Perry
Well, if i learned something about Trump and Brexit, is that the loud minority can't win the silent majority
Christian Green
>the people who was on Macron side all along declare they are still on his side Wew, what a shock.
Aaron King
To be fair - Trump had the Republican party.
If Le Pen had hijacked the main Neo-Con party of France, she might have had a chance.
There will not be a France as we currently know it by 2027.
2022 will present an insurmountable demographic shift and total control by the E.U. and "global special interests". Macron or his technocrat replacement will be unbeatable.
This is why Brexit was absolutely crucial. It was a literal last stand. Trump too. For whatever failings they bring (and they'll bring a lot), they were a desperate last stand by people to at least keep in the fight.
Le Pen would have been the same.
Macron will win and France will be on the path to be like Germany and Sweden. Maybe it's not so bad, provided you don't get Trucked. The struggle in the U.S. and the U.K. will be much rougher I think.
And for all our shitposting and bragging and laughing at you, your future could potentially be better than what Australia and Canada are facing.
Xavier Lewis
What do you expect from Parliamentary elections? Which political party is favoured most?
Caleb Morgan
Trump was erroneously considered to be more far-right than people like Cruz who basically campaigned on using the Bible to outlaw homosexuality. The entire globalist establishment worldwide worked constantly to make Trump seem radical and fringe to moderate undecided voters. The parallels are too obvious.
Jordan Perez
Same rhetoric as Trump, same image as Trump, same backers as Trump.
The Western elites need a new War. That will be easily achieved with charismatic nationalist leaders, as always.
Le Pen will win.
Screencap this.
Aaron Russell
Im skeptical she can win, just cause France has had such a blue pilled few decades. That said I remember her father getting 18%, no one would believe her getting 40 something percent even ten years ago.
Luke Rogers
Dubious map, I request evidence.
No she fares pretty well with some of the youth. At least the half that isn't multicultural, antifa or braindead.
She gets more votes from young ppl than from the aged.
Sebastian Brooks
step 1 : don't
Blake Reed
It's like it's October 2016 again!
Thomas Morris
If Macron wins the EU may grow stronger, not really sure about that though as the Union is pretty much in dispair. He is howeover an obvious puppet of the left, an obvious incompetent that will do everything Bruxelles and the jews will tell him
If Marine wins, well, it's the end of the EU and the real beginning of a far right wing revival in the whole Europe
Nolan Bennett
Add "deceitfully" in front of "polite" and it's a deal. The little shit was so passive-aggressive it was painful to watch.
Colton Parker
>She gets more votes from young ppl than from the aged.
Youth want a future and the old want to keep their pensions and fuck the future?
Jackson White
Are you serious calling your phone and stupid several times and telling her that she's a liar that didn't seem like too much poison simply exposing his ideas additionally this is bait.
Carson Johnson
Libtards have been saying that the polls in America weren't fake since Hillary won the popular vote. Lhere's no reason at all to believe anything the media says that supports globalists in any way.
Jonathan White
i dont buy it.
Aiden Harris
Even the Bog
Nicholas Rivera
Do people who waste their time filling out online forms for TV outlets have any bearing on what a more time sensitive person "average" "scroll past that shit" kind of populous may think
also Macroon with win, im %99 percent sure
any subtitled debate links?
Camden Clark
What do you make of her overwhelming support from Britain and the US here on Sup Forums? A serious red flag for me.
Josiah Ward
but dat accent
Colton Powell
You guys sound so much more progressive. Do you guys still have fake news? Germany doesn't, because they banned it.
Grayson Rogers
That's a wild one.
In the parliamentary election, I'd say the LR (moderate right-wing) might have a chance. The Socialist Party and the Unbowed (Left-wing) will compete for the same reserve of votes. FN may get some more seats if they have a good showing right now but I don't think anything huge will happen.
>There will not be a France as we currently know it by 2027. Watch your mouth there, Jean-Marie Le Pen said the same about 2015 back when we were in 2002. The demographic shift isn't as big as some people would like you to believe. The cultural shift is where it's at.
Ryan Roberts
Except when you brainwash entire generations into believing the far right is the return of Hitler and will do a massive genocide and world war if it wins...
Also the french online culture is strongly far left so the far left party has stolen a lot of voters from the far right in this election and brainwashed them to hate the far right
Nolan Clark
God i want to cum all over these nogs assholes and tell them they´re good slaves
Luis Young
She was dumb as fuck in the debate.
She know about the "diabolisation", she should have been more calm, more clear, showing to the people a soft side of her, people are weak against women's soft word, but she failed.
John Brown
>centrist >Former member of socialist party Fake news much?
Andrew Bennett
you can have mine :3
Carson Myers
you forgot the national sport
usa - american football france - terrorist attacks
Juan Harris
Let's say it's gained less traction here than in the US.
Sup Forums, it seems, is only a majority on the Internet, unless we really all swarmed to that poll & everybody else ignored it.
Brody Rodriguez
This.
We might have a chance with the parliamentary election, the result were close as fuck this year, 4 candidate, close to 20%, PS is also dead, a lot of things might different this year.
Joshua Hernandez
For the people that didn't watched it, this debate was bullshit. Macron was talking about his program and what he wants to do during the next 5 years Le Pen was criticizing the fact he was in the previous government and put all the problems of the world on him, criticised his program and never talked about her own program. We had one guy that talked about everything, explained things in a nice and comprehensive way while this retard was trying to spout some meme about him. She even made an allusion to the hoax coming from this board.
I don't appreciate Macron a lot, but with Le Pen I just wonder what the hell it's going to be.
Hudson Garcia
Your Democrats would be considered far right here. Their politic's are racially charged and they serve American corporations.
Joshua Cruz
People are already getting tired with this election. Nothing will really change. Maybe a couple more seats for the FN and Melanchon cucks and that will be it.
Thomas Torres
do like muhommod and snatch the nearest 4-6 year old
Just watch the polls about the first round, it was very accurate.
Just like a website which predicted Trump's victory
Austin Diaz
They set up bots.
Thomas Ross
The problem with France is that we always end up doing the same political choices of the USA just with a few years of delay
So you had your obama for two mandates, we'll have our socialists for two mandates too (and our little Hillary) but then it's time for the far right
Dominic Fisher
They are not doing pretty good work then, she had almost the same votes as Macron in the first round
You underestimate the actual climate in european countries, im amazed Brexit happened
Dominic Gray
Yeah, forgot about him. I wonder how long his "party" will last given that he got the support of Robert Hue and Francois Bayrou at the same time haha
Bentley Nguyen
Learn how to sexually satisfy your own women first. French women are the absolute worst, you need lotsa practice to dominate one properly.
Hunter Phillips
Fillon is from Moderate Left, right?
Bentley Jenkins
rest in spaghetti, never forgetti
Jackson Wright
The Le Pen dynasty carries too much baggage, they'll never appeal to enough people outside of their core supporters. They should let someone else lead the FN.
Alexander Adams
No campaign about the parliamentary election now.
We should wait, things can change in two month, just watch Fillon's downfall.
Gavin Davis
*right But he doesn't stand a chance anymore. He retired from active politics.
"Grâce à la semence de Bogdanov, ma masse cérébrale a doublé de volume"
Justin Hill
Yes, but then they may get less of their core voters. Besides, nobody seems ready to take Marine's lead. Except Philippot.But the fact that he's gay will put many people off.
Adrian Miller
You forget that the UK is a mighty empire that has no need for the tiny EU economy and can deal with the US and China on equal terms.
Other European countries cannot be so proud. They have no choice but to cooperate with each other.
Gabriel Smith
Yes we have a huge resentment against the establishment but still the brainwashing will assure the victory of Macron
BUT the FN never had such a huge score before, never had any political ally, the last time they went through the second turn it was because of an accident as liberals were too lazy to wake up and vote for the PS but the FN ended with only 17% of the votes against 83% for Chirac
Now watch this, she could get 45% but even with 40 or 42% it's a freaking huge progress and she could win the next elections... except if she acts as a retard like during this debate
Oliver Flores
nah i like ours better, just female French accent is god tier
Bentley Gray
All betting sites place Le Pen's victory as far more likely than Macron's. Some of them are giving Le Pen 9/1 odds.
Oliver Martin
>she could get 45% More like 25-30%.
You can screencap this.
Owen Hughes
WHERE IS PROOF
Austin Garcia
O B A M A
Jayden Wood
Dude, even the BFM shills say she'll do 40%
Mason Turner
Only Bayrou is actually on board. Hue just said very early on that Macron was the right candidate against Le Pen. Nothing more than that. He does not endorse Macron, neither does Macron included hi in his campaign.
Blake Young
if philippot wasnt gay he could easily replace her
Angel Price
His face and his name don't sound right. I mean he looks like some sort of dark mage with those eyes and those dark eyelips. Besides he doesn't seem to be worth much in a debate.
William Foster
checked fpbp
Joshua Morales
Yes and as he is a monster in debate he would have destroyed Macron
If God wills it the FN will get rid of the Le Pen so the party could at last run France
Sebastian Campbell
He will betray her right after the she lost election. And found his own political movement
