Would you pay 135 Euros a month for 250 hours of free time?
I work 10 hours a day, a month has about 22 working days. I also need about an hour extra every day to drive to and from work etc. I rounded it to 250 hours a month. I earn minimum wage, which is 495 Euros.
If I stopped working and got on unemployment benefits, I'd earn 360 Euros a month.
Who in their right mind would work 250 hours a month for 135 Euros? That's like half a euro per hour.
It makes no financial sense to be employed in Greece.
500e is the mimimum wage ? Damn Greece really is fucked
Owen Brown
welcome to reality. Thats the problem with welfare all over the world. Now add to your equation a person with mosderate dirve whos intelligent enough to run an all cash buisness. >$600 cash welfare >$300 disability (anxiety) >150 food stamps >free housing >free medical >run lawn company 4 months a year earn extra $150 day for 120 days tax free.
The idea that liberals dont understand this is a total joke, its a guise to keep their voters from moving up the social ladder, b/c if they do they will lean toward conservative polices that allow them to keep what they've accumulated.
Thomas Perez
Hell yeah that's worth it.
Luis Roberts
this - what the fuck man?!
Levi Hall
It has been like that for years so I guess it's going to be reduced further soon Things only get worse
Isaiah Thompson
It's almost like it's completely a priori obvious that redistribution of wealth can only exacerbate the problem it's supposed to solve.
Sebastian Morgan
How does one not pay denbts and bitch of austerity at the same time? Just go lay on the beach with your brethren and watch the immigrants pour into the ports.
Gabriel Collins
We are paying our denbts.
Lucas Morris
>got on unemployment benefits
wtf you still have those? no wonder its not working out there
ffs EU do your fucking job for once and get that money back
Ryder Phillips
>implying unemployment benefits are the only gibs you can get get 10+ kids and a disability without paying income taxes vs working fulltime and handing 40-50% of your monthly salary to the government to finance the former
Julian Russell
No you're not. The IMF program rolls through 2018. Whatever pundit told you that debts were being paid is lying so they can kick the can down the road a bit further.
You will dig yourselves out of this if you don't give up. Some ancestors of yours left a big mess for you to clean up, but you can definitely do it.
Brody Collins
By accepting benefits, you're hurting society. By working, you contribute to it. It isn't about the money, shitstick. It's about being a moral person
Lincoln Thompson
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Aiden Nguyen
prices are wildly different you always need the cost of living for comparison
My father makes 1000€ at most for his job in Portugal but 3500€ in France. And, yes, he's a construction worker.
Wyatt Bennett
In Holland you don't get unemployment benefits if you quit your job voluntarily. It's also only valid for 3 months for young people.
Jacob Green
greece is undergoing an experiment now to keep people in perpetual austerity and serfdom. fitting since you gave us democracy you now give us technocratic feudalism.
Jacob Carter
Depends if you want to be a piece of Shit or not. How much is it to purchase a decent house with that weak ass minimum wage?
Ian Allen
Oh shut up. None of you fags win less than 1k or so, even if you are scrapping fucking shit of the road. You imposed industry and agriculture regulations upon them so you could reduce competition didnt you? Tough shit, now you should pay for their shortcomings.
Camden Wilson
>money is the only reason i am working my ass off fulltime since graduating >could life a much calmer and probably happier live by going full gibs because germoney >on top of that i wouldn't need to waste +10 hours each year doing my income taxes just to get some of the money back i earned for but never received t. Idiot
Michael Fisher
>tfw there are literally shitskins in central europe who either win as much gibs or make as much money for doing shitty jobs than certain engineers and technicians in southern europe
EU fuck yeah!
Jaxon Wood
I've a friend who works as an engineer in Jeddah and he probably makes less than what an unemployed paki with 7 kids makes in Britain
Think about that
Ryder Price
Our minimum wage is 270 EUR, and we don't owe a lot (12bil total debt). They should completely cut unemployment benefits in your country.
Joshua Gray
That's probably because 10,000 Greek companies move to Bulgaria every month.
Maybe the EU should force an EU-wide corporate tax rate that is identical for all countries.
Jayden Bailey
>Maybe the EU should force an EU-wide corporate tax rate that is identical for all countries. Will be vetoed by all poorer countries. Like mine. We use our lower taxes as a magnet for companies.
Owen Mitchell
Feels bad pitaman, don't work
Levi Turner
Tell the whole story fag. The unemployement benefit is given for a 2 years maximum period.
Nathaniel Taylor
Holy shit you guys are 3rd world tier
I make 250$ a day
Jaxon Jones
True, but be realistic. If you create system like that people will exploit it. People are lazy by nature. Socialism is unnatural abomination leading us to degeneration on all fields of our lives.
John Robinson
work harder little ant, refugees in Germany need their BMW
Owen King
Have you seen what Italy owes Tyrone? I don't get why Greece is the scapegoat
As if the thousands of refugees flooding the islands weren't enough. You should see how Chios has become. Shitskins as far as the eye can see. But its all good because multiculturalism while Germany gets almost no "refugees". Its fucking sickening
Benjamin Turner
>Germany gets almost no refugees that's cute
Jace Foster
>By working, you contribute to it. unless the money goes straight to niggers
Kayden Turner
I feel sick for you.
Samuel Young
Conpared to Greece's population, yeah they fucking dont. Pensions are being cut, minimum wage has shot through the floor, unemployment is at a constant rising, refugees flooding the fucking place.
Let's not even mention the "haircut" they did to both of us. Destroyed both our economies. I don't get why the globalist EU shills are against hellenism so much
Fuck the EU, Jews in white men's clothing
Connor Richardson
I think that they owe a lot less than us in comparison to their gdp. Still a lot though.
Nolan Brooks
Thats what you get,when you compete with flip flops.
Luke Bailey
lmao you guys are so cucked
how can your life be so shitty yet your people sit down and do nothing to stand against it?
Jeremiah Martinez
yeah i don't believe your minimum wage is poland-tier
Jacob Bennett
You try and stand up with no weapons, a leftist government and a total population below 11 million (and that's including my shitty little island's population)
Hudson Perry
>By working, you contribute to it. Look at my flag and tell me I want to contribute to the fucking bullshit that's going on over here. Better to strain the system as much as possible so it breaks down. No more gibs will not only bring about the day of the rope, it will also discourage all further immigration (not only because of chaos and bloodshed, also simply by no more gibs for immigrants).
Oliver Perez
They're in an even worse position then because they actually HAVE the power to pay their humongous debts and yet they still don't.
kill your politicians and seize your government, what is so hard about that? clearly your government is the one that is fucking you
you can mob and riot with sticks and fire
Henry Rogers
Fuck off we're full.
Gabriel Clark
>10 hours >minimum wage ayyyy lmao
Julian Lewis
>Look at my flag and tell me I want to contribute to the fucking bullshit that's going on over here. Do you have any idea how naive you come across in asking this question? You're countrymen are notorious for being some of the most "open-minded" in Europe, second only to the Swedes, and with the exceptions of the Canadians, you are by far the biggest cucks on Sup Forums. Pretty every time someone mentions EU succession, you fucks come here to defend your failing, ill-conceived superstate with every possible argument, no matter how specious.
James Gray
This is how it works the world over.
It works this way because elite crafts and trades require this kind of commitment in order to be proficient.
A doctor can't just decide to work part time because he wants the free time and earns a good wage, he needs to work more in order to maintain his skill set.
Everyone has to suffer alongside the doctor, otherwise nobody would choose to be a doctor.
Introduce a mechanic like you have in Greece, and you get Greece. That's why nothing is done in the US to rein in costs of Housing, Education and Medical services. You need to keep people working and spending on "needs" to maintain this system.
It's why the welfare system is dangerous. It's not just the cost of welfare, it's the cost of losing otherwise good workers to early retirement or lowered ambitions.
Evan Bennett
And get mowed down by cops with automatic weapons?
Thanks but no thanks, I wanna go to Brazil and have a hedonistic trap orgy and contract AIDS before I die
Brody Price
well then I guess you are getting what you deserve filthy sodomite
Jordan Gonzalez
>win you MAKE or EARN money in English. You don't "win" it, as if in a lottery
Ryder Jones
Don't get me wrong, if I had an AK I'd massacre the parliament. I'd gladly sacrifice myself for the future of our countries. Only problem would be I'd get classed as a terrorist and everybody else would elect a far more leftist government to "uphold" their values and protect democracy. Even my fucking family is leftist for fucks sake
Brandon Foster
a prostitute in greece costs 7 euros, so yeah you can manage on 500
Andrew Russell
>I don't have an argument so I'll just resort to policing your grammar: The Post
Eli Bennett
I make as much in one day as you do in a month. how does this make you feel?
Jason Collins
I doubt you make 30k/month
Ian Nguyen
how much do you make in a month?
Jaxon Thompson
No you can't. Everyone who makes 500/month lives with his parents/wife.