Will Trumpcare be any better than Obamacare?

So all we need is the republican lead Senate to repeal Obamacare as well and it's finally fucking abolished.

But what about the replacement? I know dick about it. Googling has all differenet answers.

Healthcare is not a right, it's a privilege. If you or your wife are too lazy to get a job with benefits, or you're not a vet, a cripple, or medicare age, fuck you.

I am sick of paying for the illegals, nigs, the fats, the smokers.....but especially the fucking NEETS. fuck you all.

Who's got answers? If the Senate doesn't cuck us will Trumpcare be better? It fucking has to be, right? Red pill me?

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kike sage

If the Senate bats this bill now... it will be used against Democrat incumbents in Red States.

Manchin in West Virginia
Tammy Waldin in Wisconsin
Bob Casey in Penn
McCaskill in Missouri
Jon Tester in Montana
Joe Donnelly in Indiana
Bill Nelson in Florida
Heidi Heitkamp in North Dakota
Sherrod Brown in Ohio

At least 9 seats are in serious play.

Forcing vulnerable Democrat Senators to defend Obamacare.

Democrats are hitting their chests and screaming but they're fucked.

It's Obamacare only 100000 times worse. Even worse than the last bill.

SINGLE PAYER NOW

It's ok as long as WE WON, GET OVER IT

That's not what he asked. He asked if Trump care will be better

Pelosi was threatening the Reps but they're at low risk.

She was fucking shitting bricks. The House tossed this to the Senate. Ball is in their court.

All their money is going to defend Senators and these Senators are going to put their careers at risk by opposing the Obamacare repeal.

Luckily, the system is collapsing around Fall 2018.

No retard the bill will be used againist republicans. You think 20 million want to lose their healcare and pay more? You and fudge pack in chief are getting owned in 2018 for this.

Of course. But it may not pass in the Senate. Doesn't matter.

Gotta look at 2019 and beyond. GOP may have just fucked the Democrats in the asshole.

It'll be great OP. The God Emperor will not give us a shit bill. But to be honest as long as we win it's worth it just don't question it publicly and always defend it at all cost no matter what the bill itself says.

We must show a united front. The GOD EMPEROR will take care of us.

It allows states to discriminate based on peexisting condtions. I know this board is full of fags on their parents healthcare plan but this is seriously gonna hurt a lot of people. All because trump and GOP are slaves to healthcare insurance Jews.

Got em

lol... fearmongering. No one is losing anything.

Trumpcare is better than Obamacare.

Democrats will follow Obama to political suicide trying to save the legacy of the black president.

Trump's Xanatos Gambit.

Bill passes... he wins
Bill is rejected... he wins

>don't question it publicly
>no matter what the bill itself says

>The GOD EMPEROR will take care of us

how comforting.

Republicans shouldn't fear the Democrats bullshit.

All those people with their "Obama healthcare" didn't go out and vote for the Democrats in congress who gave them Obamacare.

Obamacare ain't popular at all.

Motherfucking Democrats are tone deaf.

many, many pre-existing conditions will no longer be covered under the AHCA. shit tons will lose their healthcare, you mong.

Have you read the bill you cum guzzling faggot? To busy letting that big black bill pound you. Listen homo I'm joking this is a disaster. My mother is literally a walking Prexisting condition. Heads will roll if this passes and peoplare cut off healthcare and pay more in premiums. Oh and instead of paying taxes now you pay insurance companies. But the faggots in congress excerpted themselves.

It tosses people with pre-existing conditions to Medicaid-lite dingus.

What the fuck do you think the "cripple fund" is for?

They're insuring companies against losses Company is losing money on some sick asshole... they go to daddy government to help them take care of the sick asshole.

These fucking companies may even start looking for cripples to cover... because the government will pay for their care.

Essentially everything related to abortion is defunded, all the taxes on anything medicine or technical is removed, there will be increased funding for state healthcare budgets and medicare budgets, youre no longer going to be fined for not having healthcare. Shit probably is about to get a lot cheaper.

That post is so stupid I've gone crosseyed

Hey faggot most people LIKE obamacare. They like prexisting condtions saying on their plan till 27 Medicaid expansions. Theses are good things. You see all the people in these town halls realize "oh shit I'm getting fucked if they repealed this". I'm sorry you Paul Ryan want to Jew us out of healthcare for the insurance Jews. I wonder how much you get paid to shill here.

>rape, cesarean birth, domestic violence, sexual assault, are all now considered pre-existing conditions.

What kind of world do you want to live in?

sure... shareblue faggot..."Your mom." Go back to you boiler room boss and tell him to stick your mom's head in his asshole.

If your mom is a fucking cripple, she's probably on fucking Medicare. Cut the bullshit out.

Fearmongering, fearmongering... doing anything to save your precious Obama's legacy. Fuck Obama's legacy and fuck you.

Just pay an insurance company then you dumb fuck. Pre-Obamacare I paid $93 a month for healthcare and under Obamacare I'm paying $649 a month. The sooner Obamacare is out the window the better.

You will be cucked by senate for sure. The replacement is a laughing stock. You also have no idea what you're talking about and you sound like a low IQ turd.

Nahhh go fuck your cunt. I'm done with your faggoty shre blue shit. Cum guzzling faggots like you think it's funny to hurt millions of people. You fuck with healthcare you are gonna be wishing you were never born faggot. This isn't one of your stupid fucking memes. This entire bill is a giant blow job to health insurance comanpies. You pass you own how bad it is.

Lying

How come the popularity for Obamacare doesn't materialize into votes for Democrats in congress?

Trump is gonna make Democrat Senators eat Obamacare.

The dumb motherfuckers are going to run campaigns revolving around preserving it. lol lol lol.

Leftist plebs actually think Democrats are gonna run on "Restore Obamacare."

If Democrats don't get onboard... they'll be running on preserving Obamacare. Obamacare will be used against them.

If Obamacare is repealed... they'd be stupid to run on "Restoring Obamacare."

It would like running on restoring AIDS or Cancer.

I'm am sick of your health insurance Jew kike. HOW AOUT MEDICARE FOR ALL? WHY ARE YOU SUCK JEWISH KIKES?

You are a fucking idiot. Thry would run on Medicare for all.

>I am sick of paying for the illegals, nigs, the fats, the smokers.....but especially the fucking NEETS. fuck you all.
>If we repeal Obamacare surely I won't need to subsidize the poor
Kek

The senate has already came out and confirmed they will not vote on this bill. The republicans are pushing for an opt out for obamacare but any state that does will have to auto enroll poor people into expanded medicare
washingtonexaminer.com

>not capping doctor wages at 150k
>not adding a 5% tax on 1%ers to subsidize the rest of the cost
>not telling greedy unhuman doctors that only want money to fuck off
>not replacing them with foreign doctors that desperately want to be american
>not using this as the primary source for immigrants


I could make healthcare free in 10 fucking minutes.

realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html

Notice how the trend reversed after everyone realized how more fucking horrible the GOP replacement would be. Most people want Obamacare left alone.

Really fun to watch all the aging boomers get fucked over paying thousands more for healthcare. Trump promises you healthcare for all but jewed you out for that sweet pharma cash.

I honestly don't care. I pay 4k a year for Healthcare that I haven't used in a decade, it can't be any worse. I am happy it passed so I can salt mine liberals.

wow the hive mind is strong in this one

Shareblue calling everyone kikes, now. So desperate.

"We know the lingo. This is pol speak. If we sound antisemitic we'll fit in and they'll buy into our cuck leftist ideas."

"If you don't like prepping nigger bulls for your white girlfriend or adopt male niggers, you're a kike. hyuk. Obama is /ourguy. "

GTFO.

nobody cares

>Paying (((Insurance companies)))
Kike lover

This isn't the election anymore kid. Stop calling everyone share blue you fucking kike. How about you defend yourshitty president?

We don't support Medicare for All... we're all kikes.

Literally what some Jewish guy named Bernie Sanders promotes.

if we support Medicare for all we all become Jews from Vermont... you know.

I just want to see that bitch pelosi's head explode when its all said and done

>Giving money straight to Schlomo Insurance Inc.
>We're the cucks

>implying this whole election wasn't just a big fuck you to the status quo
People want him to just cause as much chaos as possible.

>We don't support Medicare for All

Look who's talking kike. Im a national SOCIALIST so I support Medicare for all. I'm not a Jew puppet like your butt buddy trump

>fuck you to status quo

So why is trump basically gwb 2.0?

>pelosi in the end

of course, we all gotta choose between Jews...

Rothschild or Marx

What's your Jewish drink of choice?

Who's with me? The capitalist Jew or the communist Jews?

National socialism is the alterative to crapitalism.

I want these insurance kikes to run in terror

>We all have to choose between Jews
Or you could kick Schlomo lobbyists and out of the govt by setting up Medicare for all. And then kick out Sen. Schlomo

I know literally jack shit about health care. Nothing about implementation, nothing about history. Where are some good places to go to start reading?

Library of Congress

Medicare for all...promoted by the party with most or all of the Jewish congressmen.

... sigh.

Sure... we will believe anyone who sounds antisemitic.

I bet you're a white woman, black, arab, or Mexican trying really hard to sound like a white poltard.

Summary...

If you work for a living and pay health insurance premiums, this is good (assuming the senate plays nice)

If you don't, and you rely on Obamacare, you're faggot ass will no longer be carried (as much, don't act like you niggers won't still get a healthcare handout of some sorts)

Time is almost up schlomo

Better for who? Here's the major changes
>kicks 10 million or so off Medicare
>changes up subsidies, if you are sick or older you will most likely pay more
>young and healthy probably less
>no guarantee that pre-existing conditions will be covered, states can opt out
>states can also opt out of requirements for things like mental health services etc which should let them offer cheaper plans
Bottom line is that many people will lose coverage, or have to pay more, govt saves money.
Personally I think this will reduce growth of small businesses. People aren't going to quit their job and start their own venture if they don't think they can get affordable health insurance.

That sounds like an okay idea, but I want to know more about the people side, how people reacted and so on.

One thing... Is Marx like Communist Jesus?

He wrote a book that's got popular with the goyim. More non-Jews have fought to promote Marxism than actual Jews.

Everyone fights for ideas thought up by long dead Jews.

"My Jew written Communist Manifesto tells me you're a slave to banker Jews."

> For what purpose does a nation exist if not the the benefit of it's people?
> Is healthcare not a great benefit for people?
> Why is it so wrong to want the government to care for it's citizens?
> Why have a government?
> Why allow an organization or body of people to have authority over you if you don't expect to receive some form of benefit?
> Why is wasting millions on useless Jets and border walls acceptable but helping somebody stay healthy isn't?
> Why is sinking money in bailouts and military programs a better use of tax money?
> Where would you send your tax money if you could choose?

Your friendly neighborhood moderate

Good use of satire to mimic le donald fags, here

Sure... Ahmed.

my insurance premium has gone up almost 300% in total since Obama care came about. My deductibles went through the roof. Talking from 500 to 6000. While 4million lazy fucks got it for free. Obama care, hurt 100 million, helped 4 mil. The truly indigent already had medicare. Obama care was designed to hurt the middle class and push us to a government controlled, VA style single payer hell hole. kys commie

> Why is it so wrong to want the government to care for it's citizens?
> Why is wasting millions on useless Jets and border walls acceptable but helping somebody stay healthy isn't?

It's not governements job to help you stay healthy. that is where personal responsibility comes in. And military and borders help a nation keep it's soveriegnty. What it seems some people want is an open border and public supported government entitlement programs. The money has to come from somewhere. And it drives me crazy when people say the 1% or coorporations. These are people and entities that can relocate away from this country and not pay any taxes or deliver any services. It's literally the end of modern society as we know it.

at least it's not associated with a nigger anymore desu

I really don't know if it will be better or not, I don't know enough about the bill

what I do know is obamacare fucked me so it would be hard to get worse than it is now. but we will see

I hope it's good though. It's kind of shitty to see how petty the democrats and liberal supporters are. They don't want anything better for america, they care more about preserving obamas legacy than cooperating for good reform

its guaranteed to fail because people in the US that want to repeal Obamacare still want pre-existing conditions and insurance subsidies and all this bullshit

nobody understands that the US is essentially bankrupt and we're all just keeping up pretenses when really the economic system is probably a hair's breadth from exploding violently

Trump's own statements on repealing Obamacare are totally contradictory, repealing Obamacare means repealing the entire law, fuck the insurance being involved in government

Great, just like the VA, right? What could go wrong there.

single payer country here.

stay away, it's absolute shit. people pay lots of money for private insurance rather than endure endless waitlists, shitty care even shittier hospitals.

Senate majority just confirmed there will be no vote on GOP house bill

Is Trump trolling the GOP by letting them push for a useless bill which keeps failing to pass, so that he can then sweep in with something more radical? I want to believe.

>being a piece of trash who thinks stealing from others is OK as long as it's done "democratically" and "to the rich"

By that logic, all the people who earn less than you should be able to vote on whether they should take all your property by force, just because they need it more than you. Then we'll see how much you like your "redistribution" crap.

Senate will write their own bill.

Trump is forcing some hands.

About 9-10 Democrat Senate seats are vulnerable.

Even if the repeal fails, he is giving the GOP ammunition to use against Senators who opposed the repeal of Obamacare.

If the bill passes, Democrats will make no gains stirring the shit on healthcare again.

Once the repeal is done, it's done.

Single payer, restoring Obamacare... Democrats continue their losing streak.

nope

and you only have yourself to thank

be proud, you earned it

>Useless border walls

Jesus Christ you guys are fucking retarded.

Why bother having doors and a fence around your house then? Just let everyone in and if you ask them to leave your house you're racist.

Do you have a seven-figure salary?

Y: You'll probably be better off
N: lol ur fukked m8

whats funnier is Mexico has a southern border wall but no one calls them racist for having it. This is coming from a Mexican American. The hypocrisy is not lost on the majority of us here that aren't wetbacks.

Once again: the majority of Americans support Obamacare now. Supporting it will win you votes, opposing it will lose them.

The Republican base hates it like the good little in-group puppets they are, but the Republican base alone cannot win Senate seats.

Alright, but what do you consider the government's job? Just upholding sovereignty? If that's all they are for, why allow for things like infrastructure? Are you saying the government has no responsibility to care for it's citizens? America has a government "for the people". Surely defense is not the only thing they have to provide. Surely they don't take our money just for war funding or border patrol, right? Is this about what a government can feasibly do or about what you don't want to do?

If you could choose what your tax money funds, what would you choose?

> Useless Jets
> Border walls

Clarifying

>If you or your wife are too lazy to get a job with benefits
You are aware there are a finite number of jobs that pay over 30k a year right?
Like it or not we are a service economy. There are going to be people who work below the poverty line. Its a statistical reality.

You say this while people's bank accounts and pensions are being siezed by banks in Greece.
fuck off kike shill

I'm guessing trump care will be about the same. Although it doesn't really matter in the long run. I'm very confident that within the next few decades we'll end up with a universal healthcare system. Dems will continue to pass big healthcare related legislation through while in power(like obamacare), and then when the repulicans get in power they'll take out little bits and pieces but keep the majority of it(like trump care). Then we'll just inevitably reach the point where dems just pass universal healthcare, and then it's over.Republicans are just Democrats in slow motion.

Let me get it righ. You wouldn't doubt to give your life in combat for your country, but at the same time you don't give a shit about your people?

>2017

>Believing Trumpcare even matters

You got played, nigger

bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-05-04/senate-gop-plans-own-obamacare-repeal-bill-after-house-action

The AHCA is such a complete piece of shit the Senate is just going to ignore it and write their own. The negotiations to reconcile the House and Senate bills will potentially be the biggest political shitshow of this era. The bills will be irreconcilable and the Freedom Caucus will not accept the Senate version AT ALL, I guarantee it.

The vote today was just bullshit political theater by political hacks desperate for a victory after four months of nothing, All the Republicans did today was give Democrats motivation and material for attack ads.

>a job with benefits
Right because this doesn't affect business owners. Unless you're independently wealthy you're going to get fucked, but it won't get through the senate anyway.

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We've got to pass it to know what it is in it. Good goy supporting Trump. Might as well have kept Obummer.

>Will Trumpcare be any better than Obamacare?
No.

USA is not wanting nor prepared for socialized medical treatment.

This will create its own new faults, and grievances. I predict that IF we continue to not focus on the costs and continue to just pander to insurance companies, that this "President-Care" will be a regular cycle....with no new changes really.

It is almost like Trump is the executor of a fund system for social help. WTF.

>that pic
kekkles

Will Trumpcare be bad for me? Article after article in my news feed is talking about how it only benefits the rich and will raise premiums for everyone.

I'm 27, Male, I bring home about 105k gross.

Dude, you won't be able pay for your own shit. How are you complaning on paying others people shit if ain't happening.

> Pol cant maintain a balanced discussion with legitimate questions being asked

Sorry for
Was directed at

Will free market capitalism distribute limited goods and services better than socialism?

Are you fucking kidding me?

>Will Trumpcare be any better
No, because it's going to be written up entirely by those fuckers in the Senate that call themselves the God-forsaken Republican Party. The establishment wants socialized medicine, and can't comprehend not having it.

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Obamacare should be repealed but it should not be replaced even if it means millions of burnout welfare leeches die. It's a shit bill and the republicans own it if it passes the senate.

I work and have health benefits from my employer that are good. They used to be REALLY good pre-Obamacare.

I'm not forced to buy health insurance at all now. I can maintain a healthy lifestyle and not be fined or imprisoned for not paying into the health insurance pyramid scheme.