ITT: Practical and realistic ways of escaping society

ITT: Practical and realistic ways of escaping society.

How can your average user achieve it?

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>what are property taxes
Face it, we're in a neo-feudal state. If you don't pay your lord (local government) they boot your stinky peasant ass off the land

>Money
this

when you dont have money, you cant do shit
even if you want just live like in the year of 1000

>wealthcucks

Come on, think outside the box a little. Pic related.

no fucking way am i stepping one foot in that cabin.

Well for those of us who don't want to live like a nigger in the woods our steps are relatively clear
1. Abolish property tax or set up some exception for people who own one home or something
2. Buy a house

Imagine all the emotional propaganda we could create to push for this

If it were possible to escape society, it wouldn't be a very effective society now would it? Society and culture have the express purpose of encompassing everything within a given geographical region. If it were trivial to get up and leave, society would disappear.

Buy land. Away from a city.

Rich people are going to start buying up property in the countryside and woods if there is a trend of people moving out of the cities.

Eventually there will be nothing left for people to do than to fight the system like those fucking antifa faggots do.

Riots and conflict is the future.

And what will the rich do? Live cosy lives out in their private estates in the countryside with private security etc.

Get out now, the prices are only going to increase.

jump off a bride you fat nigger

If I remember right, this individual stole from people like a filthy nigger for thirty years.

Unless you want to follow in his footsteps, you're going to have to have money to set up the infrastructure you need to live off the grid.

That looks pretty sweet!

Isn't it very common in Norway for a family to own a second home in the countryside?

Norway seems like paradise to me. So much space, so few people, high standard of living etc.

You seem pretty spooked out

>Practical and realistic ways of escaping society.

It has never been easier to escape society than today. The internet is the greatest escape.

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1. Slave away at a job, live like a monk
2. Buy land with forests n shieet
3. Build cabin at property
4. Learn to grow food

I want to escape the Russian society but I don't want to escape the Anglo society.

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quads confirm.

Stop buying shit, live cheap only spend on food. Spend little on food too.

Buy forested area and chop down the woods to build.

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I'm saving up for a large property with a lot of woods, fields, and a small Creek. I can afford one now with the money I have saved up, but I want to wait a few years more years while I accumulate more money. I just plan on building stuff on it and other projects

I live in Wyoming and it is the best place for anyone to escape the horrors of the world.

There is a small town of 4,000 people nearby and it has a store for every need. Only three police officers in the entire place and it's comfy as fuck. All white (German).

Me and my friends during highschool would go out and drive in the middle of nowhere in Wyoming. We saw cool animals and my favorite was when a pack of coyotes at night surrounded us and we scared them off with my .22 pistol. Now when I get sad or want to relax I play some music/podcasts in my car and go drive and find new places. Always something new.

I forget about what the horrible things people in the city and even suburbs go through. I am calm here and even when the world goes to shit and there are gangs of black guys and mexicans stripping naked and fucking eachother in the ass in the city, I will stay happy in my small town.

Too many splinters desu

I've seen that pic before. Really like the layout and the wall, do you know where it comes from?

Smokey the Bear arrests an unshaven Nosferatu

No idea. Googled garden/farm and saved it from somewhere.

the system has, and will always continue 2 work for its creators/people/you; until a new system replaces it
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If you want to build a cabin in the woods it's ok, but you will have to pay taxes on it.. and maybe don't build it inside the woods, if a tree falls on your home you'll end dead stuck inside a wreck.

Bolt straight out into the forest and never come back. You'll survive if you want to bad enough.

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>such true. such feels.
As a former forest-cutter-downer-house-builder-in-the-woods type, I will advise anons that this guy gets it.

that would b excessively foolish of them if they rly want to live, wouldnt it?

yah, build in open field near woodlands.

>but you will have to pay taxes on it

Research the area you wanna build on if the local government/national government has property taxes.

Some nations dont have national property tax and certain local governments/county doesnt either.

Also, certain nations decreases your income tax/general tax level if you have more children.

You are going to struggle in this country, land is expensive and if you just build a cabin in a national park Her Majesty's Royal Police Constabulary will nick you

Food in Eastern Europe must be much cheaper than in the US; if you want to save monies you could ship tons of MRE and live off it. Maybe sell some. Might be not good for digestion though.

I don't get most people complaining about working and accumulating money. It doesn't seem that difficult, with a college degree, to get a good position in a n office and make decent money that if you have any notion of planning one can save up. I work in the financial department of a company have quite a lot of authority and responsibilities and don't hate my job at all. It's a lot easier and less stressful than when I waited tables in my late teens and early twenties, no one is really unbearable that I work with, and there isn't that much fake work. I just really want a property for building projects and playing around on

google Gaia's Garden, and start looking into permaculture

Suicide. Just kidding.

Well it depend on where you live but you can live in a trailer, yurt (mongol tent), house boat or RV to get away from taxes. You might need to move them around your property regularly though.

Land isn't really that expensive,

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Yeah but what if the ayys come and visit you during the night when you're alone in your log cabin in the middle of nowhere

What's it like in Norway? I know that there was a concern on losing a lot of older farms, do they incentivize farmers at all? I tried WOOFing there the summer after I graduated and wound up with some annoying hippies that obviously were only making money from the government, quickly left in the middle of the night. I do know you have that interesting law on sales of properties favoring family members by giving them the ability to purchase their families property that has been sold out of the family within a year or something

but only rich ppl can afford heroine? :o

>and maybe don't build it inside the woods, if a tree falls on your home you'll end dead stuck inside a wreck.
kek, what kind of shit roofs do people build in areas with no snow?

Move up to somewhere in the highlands of Scotland.

Don't northern Norway have a different tax code then the south? Corporate taxes IIRC

Permaculture types are unbearable. I've had a colonial style kitchen garden in my backyard the last couple of years and have enjoyed that, though I'm doing some extended travelling this summer so I'm not putting one in this year.

I'll probably do the same when I get my property, though I want to play around with wheat and larger scale potato crops

>Permaculture types are unbearable
Do you mean the people or the garden?

Elaborate either way, looks interesting desu

>spending the majority of your youth slaving away so you can rot in a rural cabin in old age
>spending your period of peak physical endurance sitting in an office chair in a hot airless room listening to chads and stacys gossip about TV programs

You sound like a disgusting normie anyway.

They incentivise smaller farms because the majority of farms in Norway are smaller. If the smaller ones go out of business then we would essentially lose like 50% of our food production.

Many small fish make up a giant steam essentially.

Norway is not a good nation for food production, the winters and fall is frosty and cold.

Most smaller communes/counties dont have property tax, but given that most counties now are having a rough time with their finances it is inevitable that more and more of them are going to use it as a tool to get some income.

Corporate tax and income tax is dictated by the national government/parliment, property tax is set by the county/commune.

Do you or your family have such a cabin?

>Permaculture types are unbearable

the people, dude- the people. i know loads of them, that said.

there is massive crossover between permaculture and deadlocked antifa types.

The people. Permaculture in practice means you're basically lazy and sloppy and won't keep your property tidy. The principles are interesting, for example I do want to plant a lot of nut trees, and berries in a few acres and keep it cordoned off. Even was thinking about raising hogs in the woods, I'll see in a few years though

Live in a truck and stay on a travellers site, or cruise about on your own.

Used to do this back in the day, before it was a crusty thing.

Unless you have mad luck in setting up your own business, then how else would you get enough money to move?

I think you're being immature, most people that hold those sort of views are just scared of other people and play it off as disdain for society.

I think there are laws for "homesteaders" that let them skip out on taxes

Join a monastery

This is exactly what happened in Rome

Anglo society is dead as dicks

In Britain? Could you go into detail please?

thats right. however the daughters of the Roman elite hated the boredom of the countryside, and longed for the 'joys of city life'

>aka barbarity and gladiator cock

There is quite a famous and well-studied poem to this effect, written by a 17 Roman girl.

Suicide

Been planning on building a cuckshed on a flatbed. You can just barely fit a shitter, kitchen table, bath, etc in there and have enough room left for porn/sleep.

The plan is to lease a spot on someones lawn, and end up with more disposable income than a wagecuck, with none of the downtime.

You don't. Average anons are supposed to die in the chaos erupting in the cities and suburbs just like the all the other good goys.

I started building a shit hits the fan shelter 4 days away from town that's only accessible by quad and a boat, stocked with seeds, canned food, various random shit and my weebshit collection.

There used to be a huge movement of people living in buses and trucks in the 90s.

Surely you've heard of travelers, or Castle Morton, or Spiral Tribe, Mutoid Waste Crew etc?

These guys live in trucks and cravans full time, often on their own or just a few vehicles parked up, often in quite idyllic spots.

Its an ongoing thing, though a lot more grown up now, and less rave and free party orientated.

loads of the original crews moved to europe, and are now living in italy, or the mountains between spain and france, often in top-notch 4 wheel drive ex-army trucks.

living dat mad max life.

Trust funds.

I believe in Alaska you can still stake a claim on land and live out a primitive-esque life. Don't quote me on that though because I'm too lazy to google this for you.

Destroy society.

dope house design, saved for when I make my cabin

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The thing about Ays, is that they're only aggressive to those who fear them.

If you share strong, heroic thoughts with them, they will understand the nature of your spirit and respect its dignity.

>dope house design, saved for when I make my cabin
Build bigger. Cant have a family in that thing.

This. I HAVE traveled, and hiked, all over the place, thousands on thousands of miles. It's extremely cheap, and frankly, idyllic, but...it still costs money.

Get a modest income; invest in a skillset that you can do from internet cafes; buy a small portion of land in a nice part of the country as a place to crash when you run out of funds, with access to easy fast work to reboost your funds.

Truth, but it looks modular enough. I've been reading some narratives of American westward expansion; the men went ahead and built a basic cabin, then the women showed up and they built on as their families increased, eventually having a huge farmhouse.

Also that cabin is cool, extremely tempted to do the whole thing in stone...trying to build a dynasty...architectural permanence matters.

It was growing here in the US, but they're cracking down on it hard.

It's almost impossible to do within the law, and even then it's often more costly than it's worth because of BLM laws forcing you to move around.

About a year ago I intended to do something similar, bought a nice van with enough space to live cozy, but then I started finding out more about how you're at the whim of any given police officer, and unless you live out in the middle of nowhere, people will tattle on you just because they don't like it.

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>Never make your family interact with the outside world.

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Well, nice bait thread. I'll respond.

This. Isn't it curious that you cannot even choose to NOT participate in society? Even the means to achieve being means-less requires servitude into a system that may lay in stark contrast to your personal beliefs.

Even the fucking Amish pay taxes on everything, and do not draw Social Security. It's the price they pay for their withdrawal.

lmao, underrated

Invest in real estate. Get a mortgage on a house then rent it out. Slowly build your capital and invest in further developments. Then buy another property. Within 10 years you can amass a lot of properties and have payed back all of the mortgage. Your pretty much set for life.

I work in the public with tons of people, constantly, all day. I make more than enough money for my lifestyle, but I'd still rather not do it.

There's a difference between not hating your job and liking your job, which very few people get to actually like what they do.

It's not difficult to make money, but many jobs kill people's spirit. We don't want to work in an office because it's sterile and you can't see the impact you're having. You're shuffling papers around, you know things are happening because of it, but do you actually see the progress?

That's the appeal of this kind of lifestyle, and self sustaining. You see your own work come to fruition, not just play a small role in a company that's ultimately meaningless to you at the end of the day.

The possibility that someone could just shoot to kill you & your family and the high chances that they would get away with it is too high for me. Fuck that shit. At least live with a few other families close by

i like to drive ur unted states. thats often my 'vacation'

when im driving there, i see loads of old people living in RVs at all the sites. I sometimes think when I retire I could maybe blend in with them.

Homesteads act.

Montanon here, my goal is to make enough money to buy a couple acres of rural forested land so that I can build a shitty castle on it. Fuck this pussy ass like run society. I'm going to make swords, kill animals, Brew potions, study the arcane, peddle my wares, and fuck up any asshole that thinks I can't be an rpg character irl. Fuck y'all n'wahs. Any advice to help me become a professional wizard Sup Forums?

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>he thinks money will convince him to move in a house in nature some day
It's rather opposite. You will never leave big city, since you are greedy, you will die there and one day before death you will still try to get more money.

wisdom.

You can run, but sooner or later (((they))) will come for you too.

Sooo comfyy!

way higher chances of getting shot in the city, but yeah better to live with small community.

Learn the skills you will need now, animal care, gardening, food preservation, brewing basic veterinary and medical care etc

Godspeed user

Been there, done that. Had grapes, fruit trees, animals and lake on property, also mushrooms near by.

What type of truck is this? I know some diesel trucks will run on old oil. There was an episode of doomsday preppers where a man used old oil to run an older military truck similar to this but less euro haha.

>hike deep into the rocky mountains
>brings supplies
>???
>profit!

that a Magirus Deutz, the german army use them.

theyll run on vegetable oil too.

>Tfw when I know how to do most of those just from being a Montanafag

Montanons are the most powerful race in the world. Thanks for the advice tho kiwi, I am gonna need to learn how to preserve food, and home brew properly before I can become an irl wizard