Questioning Atheism

> Been an Atheist for 11 years (or so)
> Was a Liberal
> Found out I was retarded, and became conservative.
> Married now
> Wife is Pregnant
> I work, and she stays home.
> Life is good.
> I go online
> See "My Sex Junk"
> See Bill Nye saying three-year olds can pick their gender
> I think to myself, "Is this what the future of atheism looks like?"

I am considering donating to my local Catholic Church, because I do not want to live in a world run by these people and their ideas. I would go to Church, but I don't know if I can convince myself there /is/ a God.

What do I do Sup Forums ?

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>a God
There is no singular "God", user. God is the combination of our collective existence, and the higher understanding that we all posses when our minds become one.

Think about it like this user. no one can say definitively that there's no God, just as no one can say definitively that there is a God.

That's where faith comes from, trusting He's there, watching over you.

However, if you're just starting your religious path, the Catholic church is a big shift. I hate to say this, but try a more liberal Protestant church like the United Church of Christ first, then move to being Catholic.

So God is Communism? Or Communism is God?

I've always thought the Catholics were doing it "Right". To me, the Christian churches, playing music and dancing around seems a bit too hippy ish to me. I really like Traditional things, and I think the Catholics are the honest traditional ones.

My wife was raised Catholic, attending Catholic Private School from 4th grade to 12th . But she slowly moved towards Atheism, but said if she ever made her way back to Religion she'd go to the Catholics.

(My family tried to raise me Christian, but I always thought it was weird, and the one or two times we went to a Catholic church, it seemed better)

It is better, in fact you should just go right to them.
Catholic churches are very welcoming to newcomers; you can easily go into any one you want any Sunday.

Get into it. It's like a meditation class, but free.

beyond communism more hive-mind like peasant

Don't give anything to the Catholics until they get rid of their cuck pope.

Im confused, what exactly is that that you are against here?
The gender thing? If so you need to read up on it, because nobody can choose their gender, you are born with XX or XY chromosomes and this is out of your control and if you were born with XX chromosomes guess what, you would not be you, you would be another person who was born a female.

This persons aren't Atheist, just retards

Is there anyone in the next-Pope line-up that wants to go DEUS VULT?

That's what my Wife says she misses the most; the Community within the Catholic Church. She said they all treated you like Family, even if they just met you.

She says she has problems with "organized religion" and that's one of her major blockers from revisiting the Church. She agrees all the good the Church has done for America, and Europe. But always goes back to, "There's too many problems with organized religion" I'm not sure what to do about that.

Our National Socialism is an atheist ideology. The white race is superior over all. Just ignore these leftists.

What do you do?
Easy, just continue as you are, holding the current conservative values that you do without trying to convince yourself if there is a god. Keep going to church purely to keep up appearances. Lots of churches welcome anyone and everyone regardless of their faith.

The christcuck establishment is like any other: do nothing until you get power, then turn full-on feminazi. By the way, the only people who oppose the my sex junk shit (not to be confused with not liking it) are satanists and atheists.

No, communism is the result of an authority trying to play God, which will always result in evil.

Step 1: Read the fucking Bible.

If it inspires you to faith, congrats.

OP, just try religion out for a while.

Seriously, try going to mass a couple times. Maybe find a primer of some kind on the basic theology. The intellectual underpinnings or the ritual and community might surprise you. Some people find faith before these things, and others find it after. You could even try to get in contact with a priest and explain your thoughts and ask about learning more.

If you can get yourself into a religious or faithful mindset I think you will find it really helps you keep a sound foundation for everything else. There is purpose and a reassurance about the fact that there is a way things are supposed to be. Best of all, things don't ultimately seem meaningless. It might seem like a huge illusion at first. Even religious people deal with that. I wrestle with it from time to time and u have been Catholic all my life.

I have a very good friend who went almost total atheist in college and then came back. He's very happy now.

My Sex Junk was some goofy poorly written comedy bit, and I have never seen this amount of irrational triggering since Trump came on the scene.

Like Jesus did?

You will never convince yourself god exists, only to have faith in your belief.

Just stop being such a little girl and force yourself to believe.

Exactly, good goy!

>attempting to convert from atheism to Catholicism

it's not really that easy; I was atheist for some time until I went to college and discovered that catholic girls are literally the only attractive women in college.

so I started going to random catholic events trying to get to know the girls and even started attending daily masses for 5 months even though I didn't actually believe a thing that was happening.

Then, at a retreat that I paid for with my own money surrounded by literally hundreds of thousands of catholics, i suddenly realized that there was something more to the whole faith thing than asking a sky-daddy to make life better for you. for the first time i prayed and realized that i wasn't ready to believe in God until then. and for the first time, I felt that he was there, and I never stopped believing.

God does shit in weird ways, user. It's not about convincing yourself that God exists; it's about making yourself a better person and being open to a conversion if/when you're ready for one.

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He never played God he played savior

You sound like an acid-dropping faggit. Go take a shower hippie.

Stop being a fucking idiot lad. Don't try to make yourself believe something that you obviously think is horse shit just because you like the people that believe it more than those that don't.

>I do not want to live in a world run by these people and their ideas.
You cheery picked one idiot and you pretend all atheists are like this?

Busted! You're just another lying larper theist.

Pretty sure God wouldn't be amused about the fact that you tried to use faith to creep in on his believers. But then again, it must've been part of his plan that you had those immoral tendencies. Just as it's part of his plan that I write this to you. And this. Also this sentence. Please God stop.

>Catholic church
>honest
Oof

>tying atheism to stupidity
why? thats a fallacy

Who cares?

Go to a church regularly
Faith is like a tree
It starts as a seed and it takes a long time to become big beautiful tree
Secular ideas are unfortunately poison.
A completely secular society isn't sustainable because they barely reproduce
You may be an exception, but look at the majority
You are having a son or a daughter
Do you want them to engage in tinder hook up tinder?
You don't
Do you want them to have piercings? Tattoos? Premarital sex?
Do you want them to be fag enablers?
Tranny enablers?
You don't.
The Christian faith keeps people in check
It keeps man and women traditional
The 50s we all love happened under it
Christian faith is the faith of the decent moral western man.

It's pretty crazy the effect that show/episode had on people. Shocked a lot of people. Made me cancel netflix. Made me have much more disdain for lefties and all people in general. Like, why hasn't anyone fucking killed those people yet? We're all pussies and losers for letting this happen, letting them normalize it, letting them assault the human race like this. It is just fucking nuts. I'm either going to move to the woods and disconnect from society or hang myself because of that episode. I literally cannot get it out of my head it was so bad. Have trouble sleeping now and I think that if Jesus doesn't show up soon, then God hates us and Satan runs this place or that this human experiment thingy has all but went wrong and our masters are going to pull the plug on it very soon.

You fell for the Godless Jew

Read up on some Luther, not the crazy heretical non-traditionalists who are about as morally loose as you can get, and not the southern lunatics, I mean really get at the core of what made Lutheranism such a thorn in the side of the papists. That's the red pill.

>What do I do Sup Forums ?

Why not shitpost on Sup Forums? We need another desperate Christian thread.

Please consider carefully:

I am a paralegal and work with a lot of wealthy influential lawyers. Usually christian families.

The trick is, most of these lawyers confessed to me they're not really christian, just go to church with their wife for networking and family values.

Christians are useful idiots.

funnily enough when I talked to both priest and catholic girls alike, they both laugh at that part of the story the most.

God works in extremely weird ways; and most if the devout know this. Heck, I've heard a number of women admit that they used their looks to "evangelize" people into the church.

Hell, one of my closest friends during my freshman year didn't even know I was an atheist for the first month of us hanging out and he'd take me on a number of "flirt to convert" missions around campus.

it's amazing how often that worked...

>Is this what the future of atheism looks like
No, you fucking idiot. These are just the sjw's, they have a political agenda and none of this shit is scientific anyways. And don't tell me religious people dont have fucktards too.

>I am considering donating to my local Catholic Church,
You should donate your brain to the church since you won't be needing it anymore.

God is dead, we have to figure out how to become overmen

>weather
Lol

You got me..spelling mistake completely discredits my point
>gold Star of David to you

>catholic women are just as whorish as any other woman
>that's why you should be catholic
.........

>If you can't concretely prove that one thing leads to another then it is a logical fallacy.

Sure, but must all of your decisions be 100% supported with logic? Here we can see that the heuristic of atheism=degeneracy is one that would lead this man's kids aways from Bill Nye's "sex junk" so I think that going with an informed decision and your gut feeling is better than waiting to solve the burden of proof of why atheists are so immoral. You know that atheism can lead to degeneracy, and that Christianity is a much better path to avoid degeneracy, therefore you pick the path more likely to have positive results.

that admittedly hilarious image is from a satirical website that mocks fundamentalist and evangelical xtians
at least try to get it right sverge

But Luther was a crazy heretic non-traditionalist who was about as morally loose as you can get...

>using your attractiveness to get people to go to church pews rather than bedsheets
>whores

wat?

It is truly amazing how women have been used for prostitution to spread ideas. Oldest trick in the book, who would've known it to have such great effect on the man.

Surely the attraction and urge for sex with the female is made by God so that everyone would enter monogamous relationships and enjoy Christian communions together, and not just an biological trait meant to save our species from extinction.

Become Muslim

>is logic the best way to think?
yes
>no christian degenetares
go fuck yourself, better yet go suck some pedo priest cock, you fucking wannabe jew

>literally going directly against the 10 commandments as well as christ's very teachings all at once
>christian in any way

>Waaaaaah! Listen to me make myself look like a fool and think that my bad words are going to make anyone do anything but snort in derision at me!
>Waaaaaaaaah!

Grow up, baby.

God's literal first commandment was "go forth and multiply"

>I am considering donating to my local Catholic Church, because I do not want to live in a world run by these people and their ideas. I would go to Church, but I don't know if I can convince myself there /is/ a God.
That's a very respectable and good thing OP, you should do it.

Now, what keeps you from believing?

He was labeled a heretic by a corrupt church. I'm talking about actual crazy eyed "I can't wait to die so I can be with Jesus" crazy. If you don't know the difference you're missing out on some real interesting life experiences. One time I was at church with my crazy ass girlfriend and in order to rev everyone up they had some reformed stripper come tearing down the aisle on a dirt bike. I got up and left.

>being attractive is against the 10 commandments
>implying you can't be attracted to someone without being lustful towards someone
>the literal first command ever given by God is to go forth and multiply

this is why protestants are heretics.

That's how I got suckered in. The pussy was worth it, briefly.

>crazy
Most religious figures are.
>heretic
Not an argument.
>non-traditionalist
u wot
>morally loose
How so? Because you don't like him? The Catholic church was doing shitty things, hence schism happened.

>must all of your decisions be 100% supported with logic?
Yes.
>atheism=
False dichotomy.
>better than waiting to solve the burden of proof
>waiting to solve
>waiting
>to solve
>the burden of proof
>of why [false statement]
>You know that atheism can lead to degeneracy
Falsum.
You know that literally anything can correlate with degeneracy (eg: child-fucking priests).
>Christianity is a much better path to avoid degeneracy
See above.
>therefore you pick the path more likely to have positive results.
That would be atheism, statistically, when controlling for external factors.

>a fucking leaf
Wow, what a waste of my time.

I thought his first commandment was to create Earth? And I am pretty sure there were at least a couple of more commandments before he told Adam to penetrate Eve and place his seeds deep in her vagina. Also, wouldn't that make it incest, seing as she was created out of his image? And how exactly did the human race continue from there? Where did black people come from during these 6000 years? God wants me to write all these questions.

it's true that the catholic church was full of corruption at the time, but Luther went full on heretic after the excommunication.

>ripping out chapters of the bible
>then claiming that the bible is the only source of salvation

Catholicism is a heretic religion. Bunch of woman worshiping kiddy diddling cultists.

>get btfo
>change the subject
Typical. I accept your surrender.

I mean, I wasn't using that to discredit you, but I can do that too.

Christians don't have a rigid ideological framework either, especially if that post is advocating not to follow a specific church. Many "Christians" don't actually read the fucking bible, and when they do, they end up getting even more confused and disagree with eachother even more. There are so many different translations and versions of the bible that there's too many interpretations for there to be a solid framework. Hell, there's a church by me that openly accepts gay people and the head pastor is a women. That wouldn't fly at all with a lot of other Christians.

Good thing we have GOVERNMENT and REASONING.

Was Bill Nye really on his side all along?

Stay way from the Catholics, they're all heretics who have been shitting on the bible for centuries.

Read the bible and just be a regular Christian, as in a follower of Jesus Christ. Nothing else matters, not a pope, not a building, not a saint. Jesus and the bible.

>u wot
Luther was an admitted sexual degenerate, a drunk, a lecher, mentally-ill, and basically came up with his entire philosophy as an excuse for why he failed at being a monk.

>The Catholic church was doing shitty things
Oh noes!!!!! They were asking for funding at a time when they desperately needed cash!!!??!?!? Oh noesssssss!!!!!!!

Atheists have a higher rate of child-molestation than priests.

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>devil baby-face throwing up something vile after getting stepped on by ripped-as-fuck angel baby-face

this is rad as shit tho?

> (((wealthy influential lawyers)))
> pretending to be christian to (((network))) with the silly goyim
> infiltrate goy church on sunday when the courts and pretty much every business is closed, but it's not shabbat, so it's just another day at the sheckel mill
> (((useful idiots)))

thanks for your input schlomo.
you just turned 5 user into devout catholics.
wanna try for a baker's dozen?

Anons, come on.
I'm all for a good old "you're a heretic, you're a papist pagan" fight, but if we want to do that, go start a thread dedicated to it. We should focus on helping OP, not having a virtual repeat of the 30 years war like we do in most Christian threads.

So then why do Protestant pastors have higher rates of pederasty than Catholic priests?

Is it because they follow the example of a sexual libertine who openly said:

"Sin boldly"

???


That's right kids, your wonderful "Christian" Luther told his followers to sin and literally said doing good things was worse than being a sinner.

If you become a theist go ahead and kill yourself for taking fucking fairy tales seriously. God our species of fucking autistic. Hitler was /ouratheist/ by the way.

A good chunk of people in church are faking it too

At times at least

Hey anons. Ive met a really awesome traditional Catholic girl, super attractive, good values, etc. However, she's half Asian. Does this make her off limits completely? Must I throw away the benefits of a traditional relationship simply due to her race? Will I be a race traitor? Help me Sup Forums, I don't know what to think.

Pretty amazing how a mentally ill, sexual degenerate, hallucinating, lying outcast could reform a continent with his ideas. Just like Jesus.

Not trying to convince you that atheism is correct or anything, but please note this: atheism does not equal liberalism. I am an atheist. I am very right wing. I think that society needs to be cleansed of degeneracy. I think the left have gotten hold of science and use it to push their agenda.

Atheism just means that you don't believe in a god. Don't let it become an all-encompassing ideology. If you suddenly start believing in god, that's fine, but don't let it change all of your convictions.

martin luther was a white supremacist, jew hating, capitalist, patriarchal oppressor of "POC" who despised degeneracy and the greedy grasping "princes of the church" who were robbing the people blind for their own enrichment and he opposed keeping the peasants in ignorance
seriously how can you support this kind of patriarch....

ohh my.
i think i just became a lutheran.

>Calls Jesus a sexual degenerate, mentally ill, hallucinating, lying outcast.
>Protestant

Why am I not surprised? Oh right, it's because Protestantism is straight up retarded.

Why do you say such things user? Why do you deny the Truth fo Christ? What has led you to this place in life?

What you belive is what you act out.
So you can know what you belive and act that way. Or look at how you act and figure out what you belive.
I belive god is limitless potential and that we human have the capeability with our soul which is god given to chose from that. There's are limitess choices for me even if I don't see alot of them most of the time. That's what I belive and that's how I act.
People that think there's free will/god/soul and think everything is deterministic act that way. Worst case scenario is nihilism and depression on that route.
People that thinks there's an old man sitting on the clouds striking them with lightning if they sin tend to act that way.
People who want to deny gods existance and want to rebel against his idea of existance becase their life has been suffering, tend to act that way which you can see in that tv show.

>Luther
>Despised degeneracy.

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Is she south Korean?

I fully approve if so

Stay away from the soulless Chinese

Are you me in 2012?

RESEARCH THE PRIESTLY FRATERNITY OF ST. PETER!!!!!!!!!!!!! DEUS VULT!!!!!!

There is no God and religious people are retarded for believing in it.

However, the morales and virtues put forth by Christian teaching are paramount to prevention of degeneracy.

Those stories in the Bible are just stories, but there is a lesson to be learned.

If you can convince yourself that reading the Bible and going to Church will help you led a better life, then you'll have an easier time considering yourself a member of that cult LMAOOO

>first commandment was to create the Earth
that was his first action, not his first commandment.

> And I am pretty sure there were at least a couple of more commandments before he told Adam to penetrate Eve and place his seeds deep in her vagina
Genesis 1:28 "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it..."
the forbidden fruit didn't even come into play until Genesis 3:3.

>And how exactly did the human race continue from there?
as a scientist, it's difficult to say; the theory I'd say is that Adam and Eve are a metaphorical story more based in the creation of our spiritual nature rather than our physical bodies. After all, the story of adam and eve was supposedly written while the israelites were enslaved by the Babylonians.

>Where did black people come from during these 6000 years?
black people were around before 6000 years ago. the world is older than 6000 years...

This man did none of those things.

Adam and Eve were real. They are not metaphysical.

Do you love her user? That's the most important question. If you love her, she's a good person and she's only half asian (assuming she's not a souless chink) then it's fine

Yes I don't mind helping OP, but you don't understand. Catholics are so out there and they're so not right. And they are the reason most atheists find Christianity so off putting.

It just bothers me people think Catholics are what represent Christianity when in reality they have as much standing in true Christianity as Mormons. Just don't want OP to go to the wrong place.

>i changed the subject at all
l'anglais n'est pas votre langue primaire, Québecois? Voudrais-vous parler en français?

Not a protestant. Please try again, for God.

Also, nice bait. You can't hide your big nose behind that post.

Epic

Your fedora is showing

They began as prehuman monkey people but were genetically modified by aliens

Are you clinically retarded or just christcucked?

Oh...

Just live by Christian values and in a Christian society and it's all good desu. I don't and probably never will believe in the existence of a god but I'm more than happy to conform to the values that created the greatest society on earth.

>And they are the reason most atheists find Christianity so off putting.
You're joking right? Fundies like ken ham or trolls like WBBC are far more off putting than the Catholic Church. And hell, the main reasons people don't like Catholics is because of proddie lies about "muh darkages, muh inquistion, muh Gallileo." The Church isn't flawless by any means, but Protestants made shit up that ended up screwing all Christians over.

But anyways, it's not about our conflicts, it's about helping OP