Really, you guys like fascism, dictators and authoritarianism?
You want to be a mindless drone in someone else's plan? You want to take orders without question? How could anyone be for this?
Doesn't the whole idea of fascism go against the idea of personal liberty and traditional conservatism? What about rights and rule of law? They go out the window when you have a strong man in charge with total power?
That shit is not for me, all people are flawed in some way and giving anyone that kind of power is bound to result in ruin, stop worshiping Hitler you guys and stop sucking the cock of authority.
enjoy trump's failed presidency as he can't get anything he wants in a (((democracy)))
Brandon Bell
>op >antifa >obvious faggot
Hudson Brooks
i don't know, sure, why not?
Ayden Phillips
Nazism is ridiculous.
It's for Germans, by Germans. If you are one of them, ok. But if you are froma any other nationality you would just be a controlled puppet without decision over your economics and whatever + less liberty (we already have a shit liberty, imagine with a military/paramilitary society).
People that defend this non-sense don't think about the rest of implications that come with this. Lots of NEET's in here defend it and have no idea that they were going to have a bad time under this stuff.
Fuck Nazi and Commie scum.
Oliver Green
It is a bad idea whose time has come.
Ethan Peterson
Democracy requires a nation of informed & engaged citizens to work, otherwise it's just soft-communism. (A tax/debt farm) A dictatorship/monarchy, only requires a few people who are wise as they are powerful. Monarchy has this neat trick of using a biological incentive to maintain one's legacy to hold rulers in account.
Hunter Peterson
The age of absolute rulers is returning faggot.
Angel Kelly
fascism is traditional conservatism you retard
Elijah Flores
Fascism was criticised by traditional conservatives at its founding.
David Jackson
Fuck off Shareblue.
Mason Harris
Someone post that enlightened meme that's like >Hitler was a piece of shit >Hitler was a piece of shit because he genocided the Jews >Hitler did nothing wrong the Jews deserved genocide >Hitler was a piece of shit because he didn't genocide the Jews
Kevin Butler
Why would national socialism only be for germans?
Sebastian Walker
It's still traditionalism and tribalistic
Michael White
Explain how NatSoc wouldn't work for most European countries.
Caleb Mitchell
nothing great can be achieved alone
Ethan Mitchell
I'm super ignorant of all this, but it seems like Hitler's model was just to give like vouchers in exchange for labor to build a ton of infrastructure?
How is that a good model for running a nation?
Josiah Martin
Who cares?
Ethan Williams
>explain how a whole governance would work
yeah....
Carson White
...
Hudson Gray
You do. You're the one who replied to me. It doesn't matter what some faggots thinks it is. The definition still stands.
Tyler Stewart
Hitler represented the German people. He wasn't a dictator, he was a result of the oppression they felt after the Treaty of Versailles. Under the natsoc germany saw a plethora of prosperity economically, the nation was united, german people proud. They would have won the war against France and Britain if the allies didn't get involved. Explain to me how being a natsoc is bad.
Benjamin Lopez
I said explain to me how it wouldn't work you dumb swede. He's the one that said it would only work for Germans. I wish to understand what makes Germany so inherently different from other European countries.
You wouldn't know anything about nationalism though eh swede.
Cooper Roberts
I meant who cares that fascism follows traditionalism? It's only comparable to tribalism because you want to make iffy comparisons and you confuse the true nature of humans with tribalism.
Easton Myers
Simply because they are the economic powerhouse into continental Europe and they don't look for allies, they seek for puppets, just take a look into the WWII. All the German "allies" such as Italy or Romenia got intervened by them, without having their decisions as they wanted.
NatSoc look for their "Anchluss" and that affects other peoples countries all over.
Having commerce, and progress is better than being stuck in a perpetual war time economy like the German did.
Hunter Reyes
>multinational socialism
Robert Peterson
I like fascism for the simple reason that nobody is born with any need or desire. That means that you're not born with the desire to play videogames, go to watch a garbage movie with your friends to eat garbage food during/after, go to a pub to get mad drunk, watch porn in your pc, etc.
All those things are inculcated by the media and social standards. Same way no women would even think about smoking and Bernays planned a campaign to turn every woman into a fucking astray.
Therefore, if you have one solid culture, you raise everyone the same, and promote the same goals... Can there be any nation stronger than that? Homogenity is the way to go if you want to have a successful big population with peace among your citizens. Plus, you can have a fascist goverment with a democratic parliament like Mosley propossed.
Cooper Robinson
Fuck off, Hitler tried to help your shithole country when he sent troops to fight for Franco.
>just be a controlled puppet without decision over your economics t.eu and euro member
kill yourself idiot
Christian Stewart
>Dominican >NatSoc
Poor Germans, they never did nothing wrong... Come on.
NatSoc economy was based on war, once it was over they would just parasite another people's lands and take people out there. As I say, NatSoc is based in war time economy, it wouldn't stay as "pure" or anti-capitalist some years after stabilized.
It would surely collapse just like the commies.
Christopher Ross
Some of the oldest civilizations in the world were fascist. Traditionalism as in setting humanity back on it's original course.
Jack Fisher
>nobody is born with any need or desire Blank slate theory has been debunked 100 times. What is rooting reflex?
Kevin Flores
I like the Nationalism part especially.
Pride in your country should be glorious and celebrated.
The left tends to demonize it.
But yeah as far as being forced to do things, nah.
Lucas Nguyen
I thank him for helping Franco in the Civil War. But that's it.
I never said we were in perfect world down here, I said it would be worse than now. No liberty at all (worse than now), even less control of our countries, more anti freedom in things as internet.
You guys just love the meme of the pretty girls being in home, the pretty boys in nice Boss suits and no migrants. That's a great picture for everyone, but reality is different.
You should actually be ashamed of defending the nazi cucks after all they done to Britain.
Dominic Wilson
Not particularly, he took the Germans guns and got a lot of them killed for nothing. Also he was a leftist.
Christian Flores
Its hard to not admire how he was able to make Germany a world power in a few years after he took office.
Jacob Martinez
It's a tough question. I believe the benefits of a dictatorship outweigh the loss of individual freedoms. The removal of undesirables, the protection of natural resources and the environment, the cooperation of the people for a common goal--all impossible under democracy. Any system in which Tyrone gets to vote the same number of times as Stephen Hawking is garbage. No dictator could be worse than the common masses at making decisions for the good of the nation.
Ryder Campbell
Suck my white uncut dick you mongrel.
Jack Turner
Can someone fucking answer this.
Nathaniel Martinez
>You want to be a mindless drone in someone else's plan? it takes a village, Jimbob. Somebody has to drone.
Charles Hernandez
You stupid Spaniard. National Socialism has nothing to do with race, it is a political ideology.
I never said Germans never did anything wrong. However their economy was prospering well before they went to war. Germany attacked Poland after germans were being marginilized and killed over there (bloody sunday). It was ultimately the fear of German expansion from the British and French that led to the war.
Yes and he did nothing wrong. In fact he was too kind against the English and commies.
Hunter Rodriguez
Fuck no. hitler was a retard and nat soc is close to paganism. I'm a constitutional monarchist
Chase Lopez
You will get a lot of different answears, because you are not addressing someone with "group-think". You are adressing a number of individuals who argue from their own personal view, under the disguise of anonymity (if they are truly anonymous while posting here is another discussion).
As one of the individuals, I can give you my personal perspective. I never bought the story we were taught in school, that some are the good guys, and some are the bad guys. I realized at a very young age that no human being would go out of their way to be a destructive real-life devil. When someone would do something that was percieved as wrong or evil, they must have a perspective that legetimized their actions to themselves, making them righteous and honorable.
The most demonized person and group was Hitler and the nazi's. Thus, I decided for myself to try to understand this man, Adolf. Trying to put myself in his shoes, trying to understand what shaped him as a man.
I realized that a lot of germans ended up as minorities in other countries because the borders or germany had been redrawn after WW1. Some of them very mistreated in their "new" country, even though they still lived in the same house they always had. I started to see the human aspect of why germans emotionally would back Hitler.
I think horrible things happen in war. In war, being brutal is what makes you the winner.
I think the nazi boogeyman is modern brainwashing because such an ideology (socialism/sharing of wealth, not global, but only within ones tribe) is the only working kind of socialism. It's possibly the only way how humans can break free from modern slavery created by capitalism; the rich enslaving the poor. Doesn't mean that I want to exterminate people, however, I can see that possibly the horrors of war might be the only way to break free from slavery.
Landon Sanchez
Hitler is the most lied about man since Jesus Christ.
He warned us nearly a century ago. He gave us a way out..
James Perez
>but it seems like Hitler's model was just to give like vouchers in exchange for labor to build a ton of infrastructure?
Wrong.
Eli Rivera
This
>One would have had to look a long time to find a man more barren of ideas than Sir Oswald Mosley. He was as hollow as a jug. Even the elementary fact that Fascism must not offend national sentiment had escaped him. His entire movement was imitated slavishly from abroad, the uniform and the party programme from Italy and the salute from Germany, with the Jew-baiting tacked on as an afterthought, Mosley having actually started his movement with Jews among his most prominent followers. A man of the stamp of Bottomley or Lloyd George could perhaps have brought a real British Fascist movement into existence. But such leaders only appear when the psychological need for them exists.
David Miller
ok, lets assume he did that. Then I ask you What is money?
Christopher Gomez
Liberty and conservatism work in a society where 99% of people are white. It doesn't work in multi-ethnic shitholes where whites are constantly paying tribute to the freeloaders.
Colton Long
Good post. Hitler is a symbol not only for nationalism but also that even socialism (as it was at that time) was able to be a prosperous system given the right conditions. He didn't love me as an Anglo-Celtic mongrel Canadian, he loved his people. Why on earth could I not admire that? Nationalists want their own Hitler perhaps not Hitler himself (unless they're German/Austrian)
People are too dumb to govern themselves. A country needs highly educated elites who should act on best interests of their nation.
Ethan Lewis
>constitutional monarchist >Portuguese
t. Alberto Barbosa
Christian Perez
>get cucked by soviets >burn up lapland for no reason >refuse to surrender and doom europe forever thanks hitler
Colton Cox
>Do you un-ironically like Hitler? No, I despise everything german.
>Really, you guys like fascism, dictators and authoritarianism? Yes.
>You want to be a mindless drone in someone else's plan? You want to take orders without question? Yes and yes.
Brayden Wood
Heres the thing though. With the strong national ideals you most likely wouldn't consider it being forced but doing your duty as citizen.
Landon Collins
my fucking god, a new board was created for this stupidity and yet hour after hour
>was hitlers the good goys >is naziazms good for your cuntry >redpill me on OP's small dick >wat's natsoc precious >why is op such a cumguzzling faggotdumpster
just when you thought this place couldn't become anymore of an underage joke
/sadcunts
sage >sage sage >sage sage >sage sage >sage
Blake Jones
>People are too dumb to govern themselves.
Pretty much this.
Lucas Turner
it's a funnel all the wealth goes down to the poorest
Was he supposed to sit around and wait another pic related and/or the (((commie))) waves that came with it? Poland wouldn't even allow food shipments in August 1939. Hitler didn't demand all the land stolen after WWI he wanted the German port of Danzig back and a corridor so he could reinforce the east when the Jew came to destroy Europe.
Was he supposed to just sit by and watch millions of his brothers die in the east? Zero percent chance. Germans were the sole force that stopped judeo-communism from completely overrunning and destroying Western Europe.
Dylan Lewis
>(((commie)))
Michael Martin
the ideas of personal liberty and traditional conservatism have led society into the abyss, where we are today. its time to rethink the fundamentals to prevent further decay and degeneration. liberal values have allowed the decay and attack on nationalism, family values and sexual morality to transpire, because no moral argument can overturn the right of the individual to behave as they will in liberalism. we need a new value system to protect decency and preserve nationalism
Jason Gutierrez
>you guys
Please repost this with a non-gendered term. We're inclusive here.
Eli Clark
I fucking hate every kike
Luis Perez
My political compass says I am an Authoritarian so yea kinda.
White advocacy, remaining a majority white country and our constitutional republic 1776 can coexist. I don't know why people can't grasp this. We must marry 1776 + white advocacy, meme it into existence. Our system says all men are equal under the law, not that we have equal ability and because blacks and Hispanics do worse we should suicide ourselves to make us equal.
David Howard
You're mixing terms. The tabula rasa theory is some short of social engineering experiment to create and shape the population to be like automatons. I'm not talking about that.
Eating McDonalds, watching porn, playing videogames, etc are not things related to human nature like individual rights or morals.
A fascist goverment wouldn't mean being socially engineered so everyone is the same person and they all praise the leader but rather something like Miguel Primo de Rivera did in Spain where things that are culturally toxic are erradicated from society and the people has a set of obligations towards the nation and that's it. He was supposed to be a temporary fascist president for 4 years but people actually begged for him to stay 4 more. The people that miss Franco are those who had local businesses or lived off the land without the goverment saying "Hey, I want a piece of that... And not a percentage of what you produce but rather a fixed tax so you have to produce a minimum to make a living and pay what I demand".
What people often worry about is that fascist goverments ban degeneracy and "freedom of expression" like porn, degeneracy, certain movies, videogames, bad habits, etc. That's what I argue that you're not born with any of those things and it's more productive to prevent your people to falling into them (because all those things don't come as a need from birth) and limit what reaches your population rather than let them decide what they consume. It's just applying some filters to protect your cultural identity, not some MKII Ultra kind of shit.
Justin Clark
>Do you un-ironically like Hitler? Yes >Really, you guys like fascism, dictators and authoritarianism? We are living with the problems of hyper individualism. Neither are good you need a balance otherwise things spin out of control. Stalin had way too much power, and today we give the individuals way too much power, which is why we have a lot of problems. Fuck off newfag and lurk. Sup Forums isn't one person. >You want to be a mindless drone in someone else's plan? You want to take orders without question? How could anyone be for this? Strawman faggot nice try. No one wants that and to think anyone does just shows that you need to lurk. >Doesn't the whole idea of fascism go against the idea of personal liberty and traditional conservatism? What about rights and rule of law? They go out the window when you have a strong man in charge with total power? What about them. Your using more strawmans we don't want to ride the rule of law or traditionalism. Fascist ideologies don't go against personal responsibility. Conservationism on the other hand is a dead movement run by sell outs who only want to conservative whats in their pockets not their people or culture. >That shit is not for me, all people are flawed in some way and giving anyone that kind of power is bound to result in ruin, stop worshiping Hitler you guys and stop sucking the cock of authority. You hate it because you have been told for your entire life to hate it. Lurk and you'll find that everything you have been told is a lie.
Jonathan Robinson
Agree OP. I only ever supported Adolf propositionally; the idea was that once the nation and race were cohered and strong a more reasonable leadership would take charge. But race/tribe/culture/identity must be maintained at all costs.
Samuel Jackson
What is going on? Adolf Hitler - Seven Nation Army. Check it yourself. 700k views in the last week, 500k in the last three days.
National Socialism = all white people can band together to steal from the rich Socialism in all forms is fucking cancer
Chase Cooper
The funniest thing about people who support fascism is the "first they came..." has it wrong, it's the most ardent supporters that always get fucked over first. If you're best friends with the leader, like all the autists on Sup Forums imagine in their fantasies they would be, you are getting murdered literally on day one and the next up are all the retards who willingly sign up to fight for the fascists who are the first to get thrown into the inevitable pointless wars.
Luke Allen
Holy shit those numbers
Jaxon Barnes
QUADS That is one of the best videos on Jewtube
Justin Rodriguez
Have you ever noticed in Triumph of the Will that every scene in which Himmler is seen to be walking he always manages to get out of step with either the troops or the Fuhrer?
(He is on the left in this pic)
Jaxson Richardson
The NSDAP was far more loyal to old timers than any modern political movement. It was said by many that your party number mattered more than your rank.
Sure Rohm the homosexual and Strasser the communist got what they deserved. Another widespread myth is censorship, the NSDAP banned ~3k mostly Jewish books for obscenity. The modern Germany government bans more than 400,000 pieces of literature.
Isaac Clark
Whole post reminds me of this
Brandon Ortiz
we gave the brits MONTHS to cut out the night raid shit. FUCKING MONTHS.
kill yourself, you retarded ancap, muselmann rape baby.
Evan Martin
Night of the Long Knives.
Blake James
Although I have a certain distaste towards modern Italians; thank you, brother.
Nicholas Williams
This^
Liam Perry
Of course they do. Pol is made up of uneducated peasants. Really we just need to exterminate the peasant class.
Jack Brooks
Have you read "origins and doctrine of fascism" by Gentile, Mein Kampf, "the decline of the west" by Spengler and "Imperium"? If not, please read them. I wouldn't consider myself fascist, but after reading these books I realized that fascism (and to an extent, national socialism) has been portrayed quite unfairly by our current society and the media. Do I agree with EVERYTHING it says? No, but I approve more than I had expected.
Benjamin King
Kek and Hitler are with us.
Jayden Diaz
Hitler was a leader, a dreamer, but he wasn't the person to get the job done, just light the fire. He should have been assassinated and the Reich cleaned up, by 1940. I really admire Reinhard Heydrich.
Jayden Cox
But Hitler clearly said in many of his speeches that he didn't want the State to enforce taxation of any kind into the rich nor redistribute the wealth. He promtoed PERSONAL charity and said "German people help eachother".
As in it's the upper classes that decide how they help the less "priviledged" with donations, charity programs, etc. Like what every rich celebrity do with african NGOs but with the german people instead.
What you can't do either is let the rich loose and free to do whatever they want because you don't get filthy rich by playing fair. Still there were very rich and important people in Germany, remember Hugo Boss and Volkswagen so it's not like that was a socialist hellhole.
The biggest problem about the capitalist market is that the companies decide what a person's time is worth and that's very dangerous. The fact that a company, at least in Spain, can decide "I'll pay you waaaay below the standards of living for 12 hours of hard work a day" is nuts.
Jeremiah Peterson
>EVERYONE HATE ON HITLER FOR DAS JUDAN!!! >NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE GULAG MADMAN STALIN
Wyatt Barnes
I don't even know who's trolling who anymore.
Zachary Sanders
Desperate times call for desperate measures. If there is no-one else standing up for your personal values, you take what you get. That's what the left still hasn't learned - with the recent resurgence of right-wing attitudes, they try to double down on their idiocy, further alienating those people and fueling the anger up to the point where the people will follow ANYONE who puts a stop to it. And right now, by shaming those very people by calling them "nazi" already, they leave no room to attack a real nazi when he appears. E.g. if you're constantly being accused of being a thief and people are treating you like a thief, you can just as well start stealing stuff to make it worthwhile. Blame the idiocy of the left, not the desperation of the right. It's the left's authoritarian tendency that makes it possible.
And frankly, the way things are going, even if the left "wins", it will be leftist authoritarianism, with all the propaganda, brainwashing and thought/speech control you can imagine. So there is really nothing to lose here.
Oliver Taylor
Just look at the pictures of people coming to those nazi events.
You will never see that dedication in a population anymore.
You get the guy to defend the very people he considers himself enemy to, and fighting against. ie "If we don't invade every sovereign nation that won't go along with globalism, then the communists win" Or how Anti-Fa thinks they're defending the working class by defending globalism and mass immigration, which is directly harmful to the nation's poor workers.
Tyler Foster
A person for the family, family for relatives, relatives for towns etcetera.
Austin Anderson
>Doesn't the whole idea of fascism go against the idea of personal liberty and traditional conservatism? Correct, fascists reject liberty in favor of an ordered society which puts the needs of the many ahead of the needs of the few. Under a fascist system, all cultures aren't privileged equally - just the dominant culture. Also, there is no traditional conservatism in Europe anymore. The Conservative party in GB ended life-long marriage and instituted gay marriage. They're very proud of it.
>What about rights and rule of law? Laws will be upheld more efficiently under a fascist government.
>That shit is not for me Fair enough, but it is for us. Perhaps one day you'll see the light, when you're old and grey and now a hated minority in your own country.
Bentley Bell
Stone-fucking-cold, bong, stone-fucking-cold. Have a (You).
