>Literally lived in his mom's basement for his entire life >wanted to kill himself at 23 because "hurr the world is too much suffering" >larped as a buddhist, hinduist, hermeticist >believed in the schizophrenic shit said by new-age nutjobs like Blavatsky and Rudolf Steiner, before he realized they were an embaressment >did not have kids, did not marry, was never seen with a woman, but still wrote about relationships, sex and tantra >Himmler recognized him as a benign, useless fool that would have no actual use for the Nazis
It's time we stop with this Evola meme, it's getting embarising seeing you idiots recommend his books without knowing more than the useless info some anons spread here
I only took some of his teachings and they have served me well, but yeah, going full evola is not recommended.
Noah Rogers
Do you have a citation for your claims op?
Josiah Gray
>ad hominem against dead people
not an argument
Isaiah Adams
I don't really know what this shits about but I do know Himmler believed in alot of embarrassing make believe bullshit and betrayed Hitler, so I don't see that point at all.
Parker Long
evola is the epitome of babby's first /pol merely a step above reddit, but ultimately useless.
Benjamin Ross
Never read Evola, I was into hermetecism about two years ago and learn a lot about essoterism and never heard about this guy, what are his main points?
Isaiah Clark
It's actually the epitome of black pill
Christopher Stewart
well,many philosophers had strange lives.his actions do not diminish his way of thinking and, you know,you can have your own opinion about his writings
Ryan Young
>not a single argument based on content of his work >using Himmlet as a reference I read 4 of his books plus some Guenon which is indispensable when reading Evola, but there's nothing in your post to respond to that would merit it. I'll give you this one: Evola is a step upward from Sup Forums's material racism.
Joseph Edwards
why would anyone trust the words of someone that was not clearly not stable. I mean you can't preach things you haven't applied with you despite larping as an aristocrat, Evola was still just as vulnerable as any other human
what arguments are there even to debate? he says that the tradition can't be explained but it is known by people that have been born with this knowing of this tradition why would I waste my time with his pseudo-mystic ramblings?
Tyler Clark
Freud was a drug addict and the whole western world take his books as law.
Gabriel Edwards
and look how much misery Freud created in the western law
Xavier Jackson
People still worship him as law.
Brody Evans
>people have been led to do dumb things by people with issues what's your point?
Matthew Edwards
That you should have the main points of Evola written here
Isaac Adams
This. For one, material racism on here is embarrassing to say the least, this is a board filled with red-pilled, spiritually-gifted individuals who still believe an individual can't overcome his physical deficiencies to become a spiritual aryan being, it's shameful to say the least.
Easton Parker
Evola used to have a lot of sex, orgies to opens his depth of perception
Josiah Thomas
You can't step above the material racism, mulatto subhuman. Biological tribalism is the only way to have a healthy evolutionary society. Something Italonigger virgin could never understand
Aaron Taylor
It's funny a Russian would say that, just because you people are spiritual niggers doesn't mean we all are.
Levi Stewart
Shkije please. Most of the Balkan inhabitants are non-European feces of humanity
Nicholas Jones
>Expecting philosophers to live normal lives >All Ad Hom
Mayn shut the fug up
Evan Smith
NEETs are superior to wagecucks.
Matthew Cooper
>material racism Ayyy new buzzword leggo Material this dick, nigger
>known by people that have been born with this knowing of this tradition If you had read Plato then you would have known about Anamnesis, which is the solution to this riddle. We are all born with knowledge of eternal things, which is the subject matter of Tradition. But we have forgotten, we fell asleep, we were cast out of paradise. This is a common theme in Buddhism or the Grail legend, both valid, Traditional teachings. So your first mission for initiation into these mysteries is to clear up your mind and to REMEMBER. We start out in a state of forgetfulness and that is where you see yourself now, but practise is necessary to get you out of it. It takes more than reading a book, if you leave it at that, then yes - it's just pseudo mystical babbling.
>spiritually-gifted individuals I suspect the presence of this is higher here than average, since it no longer lives with the 'elites' at the center of our civilization it lives on the outskirts with the rejects.
>material racism >mulatto subhuman Pick one. You have lost any point of higher reference to call someone subhuman. Everything is just matter and randomness. Some clumps of matter survive longer than others, but is that better? By what reference?
Jaxson Hill
Who dat?
Ethan Rodriguez
>did not have kids, did not marry, was never seen with a woman, but still wrote about relationships, sex and tantra
He sounds like a supreme gentleman
Luis Ross
Get some Darwin in your life
Hudson Murphy
As far as I know evola had a lot of problems with fascism
Isaac Hill
>Himmler recognized him as a benign, useless fool that would have no actual use for the Nazis
Evola couldn't possibly have been more eccentric than Himmler
Leo Morris
How did he come to have such a shit understanding of Hinduism? Pretty much just New Age fluff, just conservative instead of liberal
Jace Brooks
There is no contradiction with Darwin, it is fine as long as it is not taken as absolute, i.e. the only and exhaustive explanation of how lifeforms came to be. Darwin observed the motions in nature, but only observed material and efficient causes. Proper science incorporates final and formal cause. Get some Aristotle in your life.
Mason Bennett
>We are all born with knowledge of eternal things, which is the subject matter of Tradition we are born with instincts, in the past they guided the human development in a way at least different from the one today. Now we have autistic logic and concepts like "equality" and the lack of any proper child education besides sending them to schools that do nothing he could have just said that the Tradition is a way of life closer to the animal and teritorial needs of the human
>Some clumps of matter survive longer than others, but is that better? yes, it's the entire point of the human struggle, you are happy when you do it, and you are miserable when you aren't working for it
some fag people worship here, Julius Evola, but they don't know he was just as much of a faggot as them
What always annoyed me about that Hitler painting is the little to no effort he put in drawing the windows. He put so much energy in all the other elements that I don't even mind the slightly wonky perspective. But the windows... talking about destroying your own art.
Matthew Edwards
virgins get salty like that
Justin Nelson
>thought women were slaves >thought everyone who wasn't a Greek was a barbarian >taught Alexander the Great
Aristotle was GOAT
Blake Cooper
Proof of him living with his mom?. Also, Himmler was the useless fool
Jeremiah Green
Hitler, now there was a painter! He could paint an entire apartment in one afternoon! Two coats!
Connor Garcia
I always get confused in these threads because Panasonic makes a kind of battery called Evolta which is basically an alkaline with a flat voltage discharge curve so you get close to 1.5 volts until the battery runs out unlike a regular alkaline that drops down to 0.9 volts when discharging under heavy load and so it takes me a while to realize everybody is talking about a dead german guy and not batteries for their ass dildos or RF gaydars or whatever it is that you degenerates do with them
Hudson Jenkins
Evola was a smarter man than you will ever be peabrain OP.
Tyler James
fuck off Gypo
Zachary Gutierrez
>american education
Ryan Fisher
going full anything isn't recommended. the far-right is naturally divided, apart from the racial and cultural differences that we have. but ignorant morons here without the ability to think critically can't ever stop sperging out and it's seriously irritiating.
Eli Morris
Is that you, Moleneux?
Aaron Fisher
recommend some lesser known redpilled writers.
Daniel Robinson
>we are born with instincts, That is the animal part we are born with, but not the higher immortal part, which retains the Traditional knowledge. Tell me if I'm going too fast.
>yes, it's the entire point of the human struggle, you are happy when you do it, and you are miserable when you aren't working for it And being happy is better? By which measure? It is not suprising to see that materialism and a mind without any higher reference rapidly devolves into hedonism
Beauty is a transcendental quality, Aristotle understood that, so you cannot claim it with your animal paws. It is only for real humans that understand their link with the divine. By adhering to Darwin and materialism you have no basis to stand on to call someone higher or lower, beautiful or ugly.
James Peterson
Evola should be read together with Guenon, whom Evola referred to as his master.
Hudson Moore
Material racism is an African woman-tier buzzword, about as useless as concepts come
Asher Diaz
>we are born with instincts, in the past they guided the human development in a way at least different from the one today.
Ah yes, the trap of a nihilist. As C.S.Lewis explained to you people long ass time ago, it is not merely instincts that lead is, there is Moral Law within every human, looking over our instincts and sending us a message of which one to choose and which one to discard in any given moment. Instincts are keys on piano, not all are to be played equally all the time, they need Moral Law to guide the pianist and tell him which ones to press and what tune to play in a given life situation.
here's something to browse, careful with the reddit-tier literature though
Jason Young
Jews have the higher IQ range, what's your argument? Intelligence that is not backed by empathy is useless in itself, but it let's you justify some evil and degenerate things like we see today (see democrats in America naming the main abortion clinics "Planned Parenthood", literally killing your baby before you can be a parent)
>but not the higher immortal part, which retains the Traditional knowledge I don't think even he knew what he mean by that
>And being happy is better? yes, instead of sulking in a room with endless literature and philosophy babble I would rather be busy raising a familly and getting better at whatever my job requires me to do almost all the problems europe has now is because people started listening to these idiots with too much time on their hands but with no regard for the practical every day living who gives a fuck about someone writing hundred page books arguing with other autists about meaning of words like most of these books are
what you called Moral Law or whatever fancy name during history is called "empathy", seen more in europeans and quite lacking in some populations (chinese or koreans for examples). At the end of the day it's yet another evolutionary strategy
Easton Howard
Wikipedia: >Evola was the "chief ideologue" of Italy's terrorist radical right after World War II.[7] He continues to influence contemporary neofascist movements,[7][8][9][10] as well Steve Bannon, a leader of the Alt-Right movement.[4][10]
their source on bannon "being influenced by Evola" is that he mentioned is that he mentioned his name in a speech in 2014 and the fact that he knows who evola is means that he reads too many books and is therefore a Nazi: >Bannon suggested in his Vatican remarks that the fascist movement had come out of Evola’s ideas.
>As Bannon expounded on the intellectual motivations of Russian President Vladimir Putin, he mentioned “Julius Evola and different writers of the early 20th century who are really the supporters of what’s called the Traditionalist movement, which really eventually metastasized into Italian fascism.”
so ban on said Evola influenced the fascists and that Putin seems to follow the same sort of philosophy, which means, in other words, Bannon is a Nazi
Christopher Gray
It is used to indicate a group of humans sharing a similar biological make-up, having quite similar DNA. It is used in contrast with Evola's race of the spirit, which is not biological but transcedental. I'm sure the term is a tautology to you, hence your confusion.
Xavier Wright
>He continues to influence contemporary neofascist movements,[7][8][9][10] as well Steve Bannon, a leader of the Alt-Right movement.[4][10]
Bahahahahaha
Andrew Kelly
You have shit epistemology senpai, tradition is usually tradition for a reason.
Jacob Price
>quoting wikipedia >Steve Bannon, a leader of the Alt-Right movement. no one knows what alt-right really even means also no one knows who can crown someone as a leader of a movement that doesn't exists, but you idiots keep falling for this kikery
how does good epistemology improve your life?
Grayson Garcia
Hitler's paintings were mediocre as fuck desu he had no sense of perspective and never planned things out before he started
Colton Walker
Considering oneself an "aristocrat of the soul" seems like nothing more than prelest. We are all fallen and sinners. Obviously there is a spiritual tradition stretching back to the beginning that is consistent with divine revelation and all traditional moralities have that tradition in common, but knights are made through faith not mere birth. Spiritual pride is the worst sin. Superbia is Satanic. Evola was playing with hellfire.
Brayden Ward
Steiner was based, you fucknigga
Lucas Gutierrez
>I don't think even he knew what he mean by that If you are interested, read Plato. I think his Crito or Phaedo deals with this concept as Socrates discusses his impending execution and death.
>yes, instead of sulking in a room with endless literature and philosophy babble Traditional society rests on a division of 4 parts that each have their vocation. It is the vocation of the priest / philosopher part of society to deal with these issues, it is close to their nature. What you describe: family and doing your job is part of a different vocation that is also part of Traditional society. It is best that the different groups stick to their own part, while respecting each others part that makes the whole work; the bourgeoisie takes care of family life and work, the priestly orders and philosophers take care of the spiritual and lawful considerations of life. Each doing his own part closest to his vocation lives a Traditional life.
Liam Bell
Evola's essays on islam (and other religions) are a must read. It explains a lot of the state of mind of djihadis and the big difference between christianity (and judaism) and other religions (paganists, islam), which is the existence of a class of warriors in the society, a class of warriors that take their roots in theology.
Really, this is very interesting to understand why we are being invaded and yet we accept it.
Lincoln Wilson
no, I even read some of his works in detail, he may have had a mild for of schizophrenia that allowed him to convincingly build his brand of mysticism
Adam Wilson
>Moral Law is empathy I don't think you understand, at all. Empathy is an instinct, guided by Moral Law, empathy can be just us misused as any other instinct, but if it is, the Moral Law will be the one sending out a signal.
Angel Ross
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Dylan Russell
>Ad hominem
Ryder Green
He was one of the few westerners who understood Hindusim to some extent
Jose Bailey
thank you, I will definitely check these out
Isaiah Lopez
we know Europeans have been basically domesticated after WW2, and that aggressive traits are nurtured and encouraged in arab cultures because they give this religious spin to their hostile actions
Benjamin Brooks
What are the other 2 parts of traditional society?
Adam Rivera
warrior class, priest class, rulling class, working class, at least that's how Nietchze saw it
Colton Morris
Well, religion is part of the culture. And Christianity doesn't glorify warriors, it's the opposite. The only attempt at a warrior cast in Christianity was through crusader orders, and these had very good relationship with muslims in Levantine (when not at war). Meanwhile, muslims glorify warriors and kuran is a set of rules for people who don't belong to this warrior class. The warriors in Islam don't play by the same rules as other muslims and they don't belong to the "civil society", don't have to follow the kuran, they belong to battlefields where they must fight for their god and get rewarded without having to follow any rule of the kuran. It's related to the "small" and "big" djihad thing in islamic theology. The small djihad is when muslim fight against non muslim, and the "big" djihad is when they fight spiritually to find the strength of becoming a warrior. Despite what muslims (and I think it's particularly wahabit) say, the big djihad isn't an interior fight for piety, it's a spiritual fight for doing the small djihad, and by that accepting that they must die for their god.
Carson Watson
>>Evola was the "chief ideologue" of Italy's terrorist radical right after World War II.[7] He continues to influence contemporary neofascist movements,[7][8][9][10] as well Steve Bannon, a leader of the Alt-Right movement.[4][10] He was formally accused and acquitted of supporting Fascism after the war. It´s a bit ironic since Evola was banned from publishing and speaking during the war both by the Italian Fascists and the German National Socialists. I am certain that no one on the left wants to see the nuance since that Fascism/Nazi label sticks so well, but it's not much better on the 'Right' side of things. To clear things up: Fascism and National Socialism belong to post-revolutionary Europe, Evola has his base in pre-revolutionary Europe that held to throne and altar.
- The nobility (judges, knights), those who implemented the Traditional law - The serfs, working class
Evola joins warrior and ruling class together, noblesse de robe et noblesse de l'epée, the nobility of the robe and the nobility of the sword. Or I think that was Evola.. hm. At any rate, they (warriors) are to be aware of the higher law but are active in this world, in contrast to the contemplative (priest) orders.
Jaxon Harris
oh fuck off yes he has some fucked up windows and angles here and there but the paintings are quite pretty compare this with the richest comic book artist in the USA, Rob Liefeld, whose work dominated the 1990s and who is treated as a god by nerds across the world progressiveboink.com/2012/4/21/2960508/worst-rob-liefeld-drawings this man cannot draw feet, cannot draw teeth, cannot draw people with internal organs, cannot draw clothing other than pouches, cannot draw Spider-Man without a dog's ass, cannot draw guns with muzzle apertures small enough to fit on the gun, cannot draw heads attached to shoulders, cannot draw swords that are not bent, cannot draw men without 15 braided ponytails, cannot draw hands with their fingers wrapped around guns and swords so he just draws a fist with a gun barrel on top, cannot draw children without grimacing face wrinkles, cannot draw muscley arms that are longer than they are wide, and cannot draw something that doesn't look like the stupidest thing you have ever seen in your life like Captain America with giant breasts sticking out a meter in front of his chin and this is the "greatest comic artist of all time" and I think if you had Hitler drawing comics they would be a hell of a lot better and if he can't draw comic books I wish he would have at least gassed all the people who do
Aiden Morgan
>warrior class >rulling class >priest class Might as well lump it all under aristocracy.
Isaac Brown
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Grayson Perez
It's not the nobility per say, it's the warrior. You say nobility because in Europe nobles where in charge of war, but the class you're describing by "nobility" is more of the warrior class, but you're right as in European culture those 2 are the same.
John Cruz
Evola was a turd ass Aristocrat who, unsurprisingly, didn't want things to change.
Esotericism doesn't help anyone.
Fuck Evola.
All his book suck ass too.
Daniel Perry
> Esotericism doesn't help anyone.
Esotericism is literally the basis for objective reality. You have no clue of what you're talking about.
David Collins
Spengler > Evola
Noah Parker
>Esotericism is literally the basis for objective reality how so? what do you understand as esotericism?
I understand by it some guys starring at tarrot cards and astrological signs thinking they do deep things like alchemy or something
Carter Parker
Himmler and the "official" stance of the NSDAP on Evola was that he was ultimately a harmless crackpot, obsessed with a revolt by the old-world aristocracies. They kept tabs on him now and then, but he was neither a serious threat nor a trusted ally.
Hudson Sanchez
>Spengler's model of history postulates that any culture is a superorganism that begins its lifecycle as a "low-temperature gas" of loosely interconnected vital-heat-rich rural individuals pulled together by self-gravitation, which condenses their vital heat to ever higher temperatures and thus causes its radiational loss, so that the individuals are forced to use their dwindling vital heat ever more synergetically by undergoing a series of phase transitions towards a civilization, which is a "high-temperature crystal" of densely interconnected vital-heat-deficient urban individuals.[1] >He predicted that about the year 2000, Western civilization would enter the period of pre‑death emergency whose countering would necessitate Caesarism (extraconstitutional omnipotence of the executive branch of the central government).
not gonna lie he sounds great
Hunter Price
That is not esoterica you dumb fuck. Look up Hermeteus
well what is it? As above so below? his tablets or something?
is hermeticism a religion or not? if not why not? do you learn to meditate or do drugs to experience altered-states? what makes it so different?
Leo Evans
thanks, will check it out
Christopher Thompson
Hermetecism is esoteric as it comes from occult knowledge, everything that is hidden from plain sight is considered esoteric. Shit like tarot, astrology, etc borders in new age hash wash altough divination is also considered esoteric but not the mainstream bullshit that we see daily. Hermetecism could be considered more as a path of many to reach a certain state, not a religion nor a cult.
Christian Jenkins
man I'm not trying to mock you but what does it actually mean, I read my share of occult literature like Franz Bardon, which described a set of religious/mystical practices
but what's the practical purpose, what do you get out of it? even if read 10 books about hermeticism, what after?
Nathaniel Martin
> Hermetecism could be considered more as a path of many to reach a certain state, not a religion nor a cult.
Tradition is pathless land: Truth reveals itself when the fog of lies dismantles.
Religion by itself is the way of exoteric expression which can lead someone into the esoteric mysteries. It's not a exercise.
Justin Jackson
All pragmatic activity is useless if not based on substancial thought
Julian Rodriguez
an*
Carson Ross
>he doesn't like dadaism
Ian Mitchell
It's crap. I've been trying to force myself to read Revolt Against the Modern World, but I'm afraid its retarded. He keeps going on and on and on and on about the same shit that I don't care about, and I honestly don't believe that most people who claim to be a fan of him care about it either. None of you are traditional in the way that Evola describes it. None of you. Sure there are the NRXers, but they are the biggest fags in the political realm today and their LARPing will never be taken seriously. The people I see claiming to be fans of Evola, aside from the NRXers, are nothing like what he describes. When these people talk about tradition, they talk about nuclear families and heterosexuality, not some ancient aryan rituals. I am now convinced that the vast majority of people on the alt right who claim to enjoy Evola are posers, and I have lost respect for them.
Blake Harris
Evola was italiano
Brody Nelson
holy shit no you philistine. Actually read more than the back cover sleeve of a book for once. i bet you think alchemy is just changing base metal to gold too ya jabroni.