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卐 - NATSOC ECONOMICS EXPLAINED ------ >One of the most plagued questions we get when talking about Fascism is economics, normally brought up by people still stuck in a liberal mentality and limited scope of perception, where everything is defined in term of social and economic policies, rather than principles derived from the notion of a singular Truth and Order that dominates the world. The variety of historic economic plans and practices maintained by various champions of our Struggle likewise distorts any comprehensive answer to the question. All in all we've simply answered people that economics are secondary, they don't matter in such a way as to be a fundamental and defining element of Fascism. The answer didn't change, however there is now a way in which we can describe this attitude to economics, and it's actually a word we've used repeatedly in reference to Fascism anyway: Socialism.
>Our Socialism, however, is not in of itself an economic system, it is not the Socialism of Marx and co and stands in direct opposition to both Communism and Capitalism. It would be more accurate to say that to Fascism, Socialism is the definitive social structure which is more comparable to the structures of Individualism and Collectivism, yet it stands in opposition to those two structures as well.
I asked them a similair question earlier today. I asked them if they would persecute Catholic 'undesirables' who dissent from the eugenics program. They didn't really give a direct answer, but they would oppose the catholic Church so I guess that's a yes.
Samuel Perry
How do you guys cope with every day withouth being depressed knowing that the world has gone to shit and is going downhill? Any advice?
Been seeing the results of our work pay off. We got a long way to go but we're growing. Also watch Hitler speeches for inspiration.
Matthew Russell
I've been going again since easter and it does great for me.
Logan Thompson
I'm not a /natsoc/, but a Chinese friend of me told that he listens to Hitler's speeches for motivation.. What have you guys done...
Jaxson Allen
Heil Hitler
Andrew Martinez
very, most right wing since ww2
Wyatt Thomas
I am ready for my redpill. In addiction, can you advise me a narrative book portraying national socialism in an objective light?
Chase Lee
Are you retarded?
Tyler Long
Altough I haven't read it, Hitler's War by David Irving is probably the best. Irving actually talked to many of the people who knew Hitler in person, and doesn' belive in the holocaust and all that crap. fpp.co.uk/books/Hitler/2001/HW_Web_dl.pdf
Angel Gray
Careful of those speeches haha. You'll become fanatical. No race is safe.
Cooper Stewart
No are you?
Josiah Young
Hitlers war is not really going into detail about National Socialism though.
If you want to know a bit about the Idea behind it and what policies were implemented, I'd go the "The case for Germany" and "Hitlers Revolution" first. Most info can be found in pic related. Or for the other things:
I kind of want to go back now this is just too much. Ignorance is truly bliss. But I just cant.
Jason Stewart
Yeah the speeches are pretty good. He also learned about the Jews in Berlin during the Weimar Republic. It's weird because he always was a 'normie'. I don't want him to become a ideologue though, so I'll try to convert him to Christianity.
Owen Cooper
I will go this sunday then
Colton Reed
>national socialism >not German
As Hitler said himself, National Socialism is a uniquely German idea, poorly suited for other countries. This should be fascist general instead of /nsg/, so non-Germans can discuss their national flavors of fascism.
Jonathan King
Hail victory !
Asher Jackson
>I don't want him to become a ideologue >I'll try to convert him to Christianity.
Buy following certain human made rules without question and preaching them is what makes you an ideologue even if there is not necessarily a political ideology behind it.
Andrew Kelly
Good! I'll pray for you
Thomas Hall
then how come there was a natsoc movement in hungary
Mason Evans
I work out good for releasing endorphins and getting swole for the race war also been rereading the Dao De Jing recently
Ryan Myers
>t. devide and conquer shill
Yeah I mean it's not like one could simply apply the NatSoc policies to other countries. Literally everything could be applied except the "racial purity" stuff. But even this can easily be done by simply saying "well we take the people we have in the country and won't import new ones and these are now our Volk".
I mean the NSDAP already did that with Germany because there were already rather different "tribes" in the country.
Xavier Miller
People are sheep and will always be controlled, better make sure that you follow the right herd.
Ian Thomas
The Arrow Cross? Nazi puppets. Not an organic movement.
>Proxy site for European friends (copypaste youtube link): proxysite.com/
Ayden Peterson
>jew piggu go home
Dylan Clark
idk s1935 seems pretty early for them to want to set up puppets
Adam Jones
Bump
Samuel Edwards
Fascism needs to be based on national characteristics, not just blanket principles applied broadly.
The Falange and Austrofascists are two good examples of non-Natsoc fascism working well.
Alexander Murphy
He's a fucking shill ignore him
Julian Morgan
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Nathan Gomez
Why not simply read German Nazi laws? Why read some nonsense books instead? Everything is written in laws.
Ian Reyes
It can be done but it has to come from them and it has to grow within the people just like it did in Germany back then
>well we take the people we have in the country and won't import new ones and these are now our Volk
Except to be a citizen in the third reich you have to be of German Blood
Brandon Hall
It was the same thing with the Qusling government in Norway: they were a small and unpopular movement propped up by the Germans as puppets.
Easton Johnson
The definition of NatSoc we are using ITT would be more general than the one you are using. See pic related.
It's less about the specific system of government than it is about the intention.
John Reed
>believes that fascism works best when tailored to the specific needs of the nation >shill
t. mongrel LARPing as a German
Owen Jackson
Bump
Christian Collins
>Except to be a citizen in the third reich you have to be of German Blood
Duh. Maybe look a bit into detail what they meant with "German blood". There were some interesting debates on who they will include in that, knowing full well that lots of mixing already happened in the eastern regions.
There is no need to go full retard in terms of "race". Look at France for instance, remove that blacks and arabs and then call all the others left in the country as being French and there you go. Even if you have a few thousand mixed people left, it won't really make a difference and the country will stay white for all eternity.
Brody Murphy
I think it's incredibly important to keep yourself from being called a National Socialist. Fascist works, Alt-Right works. But National Socialism tends to get people thinking of Aryan Brotherhood and skinheads. That is degeneracy and doesn't need to be what people with the ideals of Hitler represent.
Jordan Martinez
Literally first law tells you: verfassungen.de/de/de33-45/partei33.htm >Nach dem Sieg der nationalsozialistischen Revolution ist die Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei die Trägerin des deutschen Staatsgedankens und mit dem Staat unlöslich verbunden. Translation: >After the victory of the National Socialist Revolution, the National Socialist German Workers' Party is the bearer of the German national idea and is inseparably connected with the state.
>Sie ist eine Körperschaft des öffentlichen Rechts. Ihre Satzung bestimmt der Führer. Translation: >It is a body governed by public law. The Führer shall determine their statutes.
>Berlin, 14 July 1933.
etc..
Jacob King
Hail!
Brayden Morales
>Look at France for instance, remove that blacks and arabs and then call all the others left in the country as being French and there you go.
Thats not what Hitler intented though. Are you a White Nationalist by chance?
Ethan Jackson
Oswald speeches are much better since he is more emotive and you don't need subtitles to understand him. youtube.com/watch?v=LEFfnZUq3io
Austin Garcia
I think natsoc can work as after all the kikes and their puppets will always call any opposition that.And we should never call ourselves alt right as that is nothing but a made up group by Hillary to support her campaign against Trump. Not only that but the people calling themselves alt right are r_ the Donald people and sodomites
Joseph Anderson
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Justin Thomas
How is this relevant to what I said?
Cameron Morgan
True I liked the one where he talked about Europeans for an hour
Liam Howard
>Thats not what Hitler intented though. What kind of retarded response is this supposed to be? You haven't even understood a word I was saying in regards to the NSDAP debates on who has "German blood". They already accepted some mixed stuff back then.
Also Hitler had no racial plans for France, so what are you on about? You won't be able to apply the strict NatSoc racial policy to modern countries anymore, people are already too mixed for that. You simply have to live with a certain level of Entartung by now.
Even in Germany you have around 25 million people with a migrant background already and "only" 5 million of these are turks/arabs/africans/muslims. In other countries, it looks worse already. At least try to get some realism into your thinking, while actually removing all the blacks and arabs from France seems to be extremely unrealistic today...
Camden Powell
Anybody got any Mexican fascism? Or Spanish motivation? Please?
Brody Martinez
Alt Right's Nat Soc lite. They're Ethno Nationalists with a Civic Nationalist group kinda following their lead. It's got us a street presence at least. I think it'll grow into something stronger.
Matthew Wright
It's relevant that all OP's links are lies and so are your links. Everything written in English is a lie. That's how relevant it is, only laws are relevant.
Mason Baker
>Alt Right's Nat Soc lite. They're Ethno Nationalists with a Civic Nationalist
The Alt Right is basically of US origin and is nearly civic nationalist only. I hope their shit stays in the US.
Juan Wilson
I highly doubt that Especially with their closet homo leader Dickie spencer. Or "based milo,mcgines,southern,blaire white xd"
Hunter Allen
Alt right technically doesn't even exists, since alt right meant alternative right to republicans(the right of USA) and since Trump is a republican now too, there's no alt-right with Trump. Even before Trump gone 180 degrees those alt-right leaders knew Trump is going to be just another republican.
Joshua Campbell
Me too it's quite disgusting to see the media portray the French elections as some alt right shit
Yes goy keep them and die out that'll be very realistic :^)
Carson Martinez
The_Donald has declared war against Sup Forums
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Michael Myers
This video is not available in you country >thanks Chaim Shekelbergowitz
Glad I save all relevant stuff on my hard drive, but will reach 200GB soon....
Nathan Miller
Nah it's Ethno. Richard Spencer and Nathan Damingo are the two most well known speakers. Civic Nationalists are from the Trump campaign. We're trying to convert them. You gotta work with what you got, at least we're not getting dominated by sandniggers.
Jayden Edwards
I prefer to listen all day to Chris Rock before watching that bullshit of nazis and those bastards. I thought that shit of nigger was destroyed.
Jaxon Wilson
Greaty so they are idiots? How do you wanna push the ethno state ideo in the US in a realistic way? That would either mean splitting up the country or genociding like 100 million people in record time.
Carson Ross
Cut off immigration completely and start encouraging people to go back. You just want us to become niggers then faggot?
Brayden Myers
>and start encouraging people to go back > You just want us to become niggers then faggot?
>Splitting up the country >genocide >encouraging people to go back
Out of these 3, I'd say you described the least realistic one. I can see that the spics might go back but certainly not all of the 60 million or so you already have. And you also think all the niggers will go back to africa if you just encourage them? Literaly how? You'd have to create huge resettlement plans and send them to a place to africa where they keep the standards of living, i.e. a US colony. Otherwise encouragement to go to africa will ever work.
I mean I'd go for the genocide option, the others are just either unrealistic or would cripple the US too much.
Carson Price
USA is land of freedom, if they wanted they would create their own white towns, they have plenty of white billionaires.
Caleb Brown
Well it's more about the awaking. You can't tell people you're gonna genocide them haha. It'd be a PR nightmare. I would segregate the Country. Ethno and Civic Nationalist areas that we control. While also doing what i previously said. Everyone would at least agree that we have to kick out all people who can't accept western culture. It's a start. Hopefully it ends with this.
Ryder Barnes
>You can't tell people you're gonna genocide them haha
Of course not, you only tell the people doing the genocide...
Tyler Kelly
>You can't tell people you're just gonna genocide them! That's where you're wrong kiddo!
Eli Robinson
I have no problem with David Irving utilizing freedom of speech to question the historical metanarrative, but if you'd read "Telling Lies about Hitler" by Richard Evans it provides detail of how Irving deliberately manipulated primary sources to suit his own agenda. And before you claim that Evans is somehow in on this grand conspiracy, he provides the original, un-edited primary sources that Irving used to show how he had skewed evidence.
Aaron Baker
Are you retarded? You were the one writing that, I just quoting you.
