This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian.
Nice. Are you the guy who was here yesterday wanting to know about schools?
Jordan Wright
Comment on this please.
Cameron Fisher
That's right! All my questions were answered and I started to shill other people into libertarianism.
Blake Watson
Answered his own question. Unfortunately we let the movement be appropriated by the "class of permanent adolescents" (see pic related), but hopefully we can retake our movement back from them. Also, anarchism will be achieved in our lifetime or at least be closer to with cryptocurrency, black markets, separation, secession and segregation. Right now we have to focus on destroying the EU.
Glad to have another tuga on board. We're 5 now here kek
Evan Davis
Nice maymay, I like the reference. May I save it?
Angel Lee
It's all yours my friend. Have some more.
Charles Ross
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Isaiah Smith
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Eli Clark
Good thread, meu amigo.
Noah Cox
wassap portubro(s)
This so much, I fucking hate these fucks.
It's why i feel the need to give tough love to those brazil and canada posters. its why im such an asshole reactionary natsoc sympathizer. If it were up to me they'd be put in camps.
Carter Russell
Thank you based Mad Max Emo Warrior.
Matthew Allen
bump.
Sebastian Howard
>Someone actually said to me that "All the problems we have in America right now are due to lack of goverment intervention"
Jose Ross
Isn't the libertarian party the ones that wanted to ban "assault weapons " last election? The pro immigration ones?? Minarchism seems ok but you libertarians are too cucked .
Dylan Reyes
You know What Must Be Done™.
Brody Price
Nah Gary was just a fucking cuck. He didn't really represent Libertarians, which is why no one fucking voted for him.
William White
might I add that it's not enough that we so vocally reject open-borders, multiculturalism and so on. they just adapt to the meta and continue spreading their garbage.
Look at me! I like Hoppe and hate open borders but im a BASED FAGGOT.
Nathan Gutierrez
make it 6 but i just lurk
Angel Thompson
You're not wrong, the libertarian party is cucked. But I don't think anyone in this thread supports that party. Right-libertarianism is better than any other ideology you can name.
Am I correct in thinking that Libertarian beliefs basically come down to "live and let live" along with minimal goverment? If so sign me up.
Joseph Jones
Yup. "Live and let live" can be restricted further down in specific places to accommodate the wishes of certain people but that's about it.
David Wood
>diaspora fags count?
Jacob Lewis
Too bad we have a two-party dictatorship and this stuff will be implemented because anyone who can effect real change is ignored by the media/ shutdown in favour of easily corruptible candidates.
Sebastian Diaz
Yes of course. Physical removal is everyone's duty.
Cameron Ortiz
I mean never be implemented*
Owen Cook
What do you guys think about Rothbard's plan that would've united paleoconservatives and libertarians against the establishment?
Blake Murphy
Generally speaking. Minimal or no government leads people to rely more on community, charity and funding for services that benefit everyone.
I agree completely with your second paragraph. The biggest problem libertarianism has is the number of people who confuse it for libertinism. It attracts too many people who have no understanding of the underlying principles involved but simply want to have their drug-usage and sexual kinks normalised.
I think the solution is to do what most Austrian School libertarians advocate: simply ignore politics altogether. Fuck the "Libertarian" Party, and all the Chicago School cucks. Stop treating it as a political movement, and stop trying to gather support by advocating for a specific political platform. Treat it as a philosophy and seeks to spread its principles. Once the principles have been adopted the policies will take care of themselves.
Easton Davis
Well yeah but you have to realize that "live and let live" also means "if you're dying in the middle of the street and I don't feel like helping you can't compel me to". It's no hippy shit.
Jose Stewart
I'm new to all this, what exactly is the issue of egalitarianism? It seems reasonable to me, unless there's some extreme people bring it to that I'm not thinking of.
Jackson Collins
Oh yeah I know. That's what I believe too.
Levi Gonzalez
It's more about decentralizing power to the individual level. You can have big government and a "live and let live" attitude ("I pay taxes fuck off I do what I want").
Cooper Adams
pic related awaits you
Blake Wright
WTF I LOVE MY COUNTRY NAO BRAZIL ANCAP
Brayden Gutierrez
Rate snek
Isaac Martin
Equality under the law is the only valid type of equality. Equality of outcome or so-called "social justice" are forms of governmental redistribution and spark the entitlement mentality.
Caleb Adams
>I'm new to all this, what exactly is the issue of egalitarianism?
Depends what egalitarianism is for you. Does it mean the equalization of certain outcome through the use of force? Does it mean the absence of discrimination? Does it merely mean that the same law should apply to all people?
Usually, the issue with egalitarianism first and foremost is that it's false as a matter of fact. All people differs along many dimension in such a way that the idea of making them equal is a pipe dream attempting to realize a falsehood. The second problem is that, since egalitarianism in its material form is based on a falsehood and a type of unnaturalness, the attempt to implement it will necessarily require force to compel people to act in ways they would not have otherwise acted, thereby violating people's private property and bringing about sub-optimal outcome as a result. Here, I think specifically of programs such as affirmative action, who imply that subpar student should somehow have access to high level institutions on the basis of "equality".
Caleb Walker
>it's another honey pot thread
Nolan Rogers
Macron winning was the right thing right?
Le Pen may have been anti-EU, but her socialist views would have been pretty fucking shitty for France.
Christopher Torres
Forced egalitarianism is not real egalitarianism
Sebastian Parker
Ah alright, that's not what I thought it meant, yeah I can see the issues with it now, thanks.
Cameron Lee
Macron is some fucking cuck whose policy will result in the end of France and any hope of seeing liberty ever rise out of that shithole again.
Adam Ortiz
What does this map represent? Is it just a map people can freely add markers to?
Sorry, I the site doesn't have anything except links to learn about AnCap.
Adam Johnson
I say we export multiculturalism to Israel!!! Return madness to it's source!!!
Hudson Rodriguez
Yes, you identify yourself as ancap with your location. Some markers are ideed fake or have been done for the lulz, but if you look in São Paulo, for example, most markers are legit.
Leo Jackson
>those platitudes >those exclamation marks What the fuck is happening to Sup Forums lately...
Mason Moore
isn't he a libertarian though? I know he's weak on immigration, but otherwise?
Carson Wood
>supporting the EU >libertarian
Strong doubts.
Isaac Brown
Fuck of faggot
Dominic Cooper
Considering that 2/3rds of illegal immigrants take some form of welfare, if we took down the welfare state would a lot of them just leave of their own volition? This could mean that if we had an open borders libertarian state it'd still be better for the low-skilled worker because the state isn't subsidizing cheap labor to stick around.
Oliver Hall
>against private discrimination >libertarian
Lincoln Collins
fuck commies my dudes
Kayden Gomez
Looks like summer started early this year
John Bennett
Fuck commies indeed
Jace Flores
Whatever m7, fuck off or contribute real dialogue
David Wilson
Open border makes little sense if there's a system of citizenship or a democratic system. For instance, is everyone in the world just allowed to vote? Do they instantly become citizen? If so, what's to prevent the flood of immigrant from voting in socialists?
Open borders doesn't work at all unless you're some sort of ancap whose view of borders is that they should be set up by communities of private property owners. If there's a government at all it's very unclear that there can ever be open borders.
t. anti open border minarchist
Tyler James
Open or closed, just privatize borders. Let the fucking leftists pay for their own pet refugee's.
Nolan Green
>Sup Forums >real dialogue
>"export multiculti to Israel!!!" >real dialogue
Carter Turner
I'm just wondering if we got to the point where the state is just subsidizing cheap labor and simply removing the welfare state would result in the same outcome as deporting millions of illegals.
Asher Price
More mudslimes and niggers for France (and Europe as a whole) means more rape, theft, and murder. These problems are going to become apparent to those leftist twats and they, along with people of other political affiliations, will eventually elect authoritarian candidates to get rid of these problems and necessarily restrict freedom, so I wouldn't call Macron's victory a win
Elijah Butler
skull and bones is an inside job
Isaiah Young
he's a neoliberal, not the same thing as a libertarian. He's way closer to libertarian ideas than Le Pen, but not libertarian.
Nicholas Ortiz
>bootlicker
Joshua Thomas
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Nicholas Ortiz
Probably not and this simply for the reason that western nations have things other than welfare to entice immigrants. Namely, they have political and cultural norms immigrants can profit from. They know that by coming here they won't just be shot in the back of the head by warlords or dictator.
Basically, we're way too nice relative to the other peoples of the world. Not that we're nice with our foreign policy. We drone people all the way to hell, and our corporations don't give a shit about foreign workers. But our domestic population is cucked beyond belief, and thus ripe for abuse and exploitation.
Jose Campbell
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Thomas Scott
I'd love to see Hoppe debate Chomsky, that senile mother fucker who thinks he knows shit about the libertarian movement
Brandon Fisher
That might work in the long run but it would probably be messy and would lower the standard of living across the board. The welfare state has created a social unrest bubble. Just look at the very localized outages of EBT card systems.
Zozzle, have a (you), Jew. You'll be blacked soon.
John Nelson
>zozzle Straight from Sup Forums. Clearly a summerfag
Nolan Nelson
I'm a little confused, does he have an issue with the things he listed (Vulgarity, obscenity, etc) and if so, why exactly? Honestly this is making me feel like an idiot because I'm having trouble comprehending the whole thing.
Jackson Green
I see an attack on the underclass but what about all the corporations and businesses that have used the state to give themselves an unfair advantage. All of those need to be stripped away and copyright needs to be reduced as well.
Its not a fee market if a few corporations have secured themselves near monopolies thanks to the state.
Justin Rodriguez
>being this asspained >being this unable to handle the bantz >being this new Enjoy your stay, summer.
Jack Ramirez
>does he have an issue with the things he listed (Vulgarity, obscenity, etc) No. Hoppe's extremely socially conservative. And from a libertarian perspective, there's nothing morally wrong with obscenity and vulgarity because neither violate the physical integrity of one's body or private property.
William Sullivan
He obviously does. But more to the point he has an issue with the fact that people of a certain quality ended up shaping the public perception of a movement whose philosophical root and objectives don't have much to do with social libertarianism. This is why libertarians ended up being associated with drug use.
David Perez
Of course. Your future is assured, Jew boi. Multiculturalism Israel is best Israel. :) Also, you don't need a reaction pic Everytime, unless of course your a bot. Honestly, I don't know why you're paying me so much replies...unless...
Thomas Wilson
kek delete those, I have new ones and edited text
Nathan Peterson
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Jace Ortiz
Give me more replies, make Israel a Multicultural Paradise™ for all. :)
Julian Powell
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Isaiah Hernandez
So basically he has an issue with it on a personal level but recognizes on a more objective one it's fair game, gotcha.
David Jackson
He's just commenting on what the libertarian party/movement has become (dude weed lmao, peace and love, hippies, drugs, etc.) and how worthless people with no skills saw in it a way of escapism. People who were absolutely irredeemable, incompetent and lazy flocked to libertarianism because the "live and let live" attitude made them think working people would be okay with their attitudes.
So Hoppe says that a true libertarian movement must resist and disassociate itself from those people. Instead of pandering to disenfranchised special snowflakes, bums and losers, they it should appeal to working men and women and their families, who have been the ones subsidizing all other lifestyles and conceivable forms of degeneracy.
Jayden Wilson
>you don't need a reaction pic Everytime, unless of course your a bot >unless of course your a bot Bots can't post because we have a captcha, newfriend.
Adrian Taylor
Fuck man you got another typo there Kek >must be shed to in order to
Charles Jones
Yes. We do. Of course no one could ever figure out a way around them. I'll take this at face value and accept my error.
Now, to start to make Israel a Multicultural beacon of light for the world to follow. I'll start with convincing the islamists that Judaism is their true enemy.
Bentley Price
thank you senpai. i don't see this shit when ive been looking at it for a long time. is this good?
Samuel Roberts
V v nice
Brayden Barnes
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Daniel Stewart
>when you're such a hyper-sensitive, neurotic ideologue that you go on a jew-naming sperg rage at the slightest sign of contradiction It's actually surprising how much of a giveaway those exclamation marks were...
Asher Smith
What's wrong with a multicultural Israel? In my country, it is said that multiculturalism is our greatest strength. I want a strong Israel.
Samuel Nguyen
>libertinism I've always taken libertarianism as you can do whatever if you can afford it. If they keep it to themselves then they can do so but once they can't afford it then I don't see many people willing to give them charity without conforming. And if they revealed their hedonism on social media then no company will hire them.
The problem begins with these "left-libertarians" who believe their lifestyle should be subsidized, the anti-discrimination laws are a good thing, and should go even further by stopping companies from making decisions based on their social media accounts.
Xavier Jackson
Thanks man, all these replies are really helping me spread the message.
My dream is to give Israel the gift of Multiculturalism™.
Ayden Murphy
yeah that's pretty good, fuck the kikes. why is everybody bumming on you man?
