RED PILL ME ON XI JINPING

President of the People's Republic of China. His resume is impressive, he has studied engineering, chemistry and politics all his life. He's changing the communist party by promoting confucian values and tradition. He initiated an unprecedented and far-reaching campaign against corruption. Who is really Xi Jinping?

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Corruption campaigns are just a way to remove political rivals. Practically everyone in the party has some connections somewhere to organized crime and can be purged in an anti-corruption campaign if need be.

Honestly Xi seems alright, but basically just another technocrat along the lines of Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao. There's maybe a perception that he is stronger militarily than his predecessors.

小日本,走开!

fuck off xi

Is the communist party (they are not really communists, but that's the name they are stuck with) ever going to fall? China had several regime changes in the last century, but it's always a centralized authority.

suck a dick weeb

Princeling trying to manage a potential economic disaster.

Ought to be a sensible business partner, open to negotiations for mutual benefit. We'll see.

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Deng changes the commie party.

ok but not yours because you have AIDS

His Dad is referred to as one of the "8 immortals" of the Communist Party of China
>which is a group of about 8 of Mao's top henchmen

So he's a born-to-rule goon, groomed for the top since a kid
>and yes that includes his years living in a cave and this makes sense if you think about China's political context

He was evidently the heir-apparent to Hu Jintao, but was faced with a non-public challenge by Bo Xilai, a smarter and more charismatic elite who possibly was a bit too much of a maverick and possibly made it too obvious he thought the other elites were a bit stupid.

Bo tried to build his own power base after being shunted off to Chongqing, encouraging a revival of communist culture and an anti-corruption campaign.
>your own personal populist power base was considered a bad thing in China because of echoes of the Cultural Revolution

Through a very murky business that involved a dead British fixer of Bo's, Bo was publicly shamed and removed.
>there's a Chinese saying that roughly translates to "the tallest grass gets cut"

Xi Jinping was then free to inherit the regime. He immediately stole Bo's clothes and brought back "red" culture and had his own anti-corruption campaign
>that basically goes after anyone suspected of being sympathetic to Bo
>it disproportionately targets officials from lower levels of the Communist hierarchy who Xi evidently does not trust
>and everyone knows that "anti-corruption" is a joke as his family is worth at least half a billion Dollars and probably much more
He has also been building up his populist image.

He's a Communist aristocrat whose family business is Communist power. He is all about regime survival
>and in the paranoid world of Chinese politics, this is how other elites trust him to not do a Gorbachev

The big question is: does he intend to buck the post-Deng power status quo and stay in office beyond his unofficial 10 year term?
>we will probably find out at a meeting later this year

tl;dr

What do the Chinese think of Japan?
What do the Japanese think of China?

Thank you for the very thorough explanation!

Red pill me on this economic disaster of which you speak.

1.) should all be killed
2.) should all be killed

>promoting confucian values and tradition.
why would anybody want to replicate NPRK?

because he's the hand selected heir to a dynasty. the communist party is laying the groundwork for a juche-nationalist shift, probably the only thing worse than regular communism.

A number of years ago, I would have pointed to how keeping the yuan pegged to the dollar resulted in a ghost city housing bubble that had matched our own to keep pace, but since then they've taken a well-considered shift toward infrastructure investment and buying up and developing foreign assets.

So I would say a more worrisome one is that of domestic social situation. The Gobi desert is growing fast, thanks to the fucked up jet stream from the halt of the gulf stream in Summer 2010. Take out agriculture and you can take out a nation pretty fast. Combine that with a population that increasingly wants a more Westernized way of life, which will include "human rights" kinds of concerts, including but not limited to pollution.

And then there are a number of other factors that could help tip the scales. For instance, why do you think China stations its military along the border with Best Korea? Do you think their economy could handle and influx of NK refugees?

I'm intrigued to see where China's economy is headed to at this point with all of their investments in Africa becoming a new age of colonialism.

I feel like they're going to end up being more allied with us in the future especially with NK potentially collapsing in the next decade or so.

So, you mean to say, they are becoming national socialists?

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fpbp

Xi Jinping is still an unelected dictator of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) which killed more than 40 million people.

China as a global power is overrated.

Watch this video: China may not be as strong as you think

youtube.com/watch?v=lu5VFxHrLi4

He's a corruption fighter. He's your friend.

fpbp

I dunno man I remember economists saying China would hit its economic peak in 2008 and they've clearly been proven wrong.

>A number of years ago, I would have pointed to how keeping the yuan pegged to the dollar resulted in a ghost city housing bubble that had matched our own to keep pace
That ghost city bubble was due to a hell of a lot more than the Yuan-Dollar peg. That peg is at best a peripheral factor in the creation of that bubble.

>but since then they've taken a well-considered shift toward infrastructure investment
Nope. They've been overbuilding infrastructure since the insane credit expansion of 2008. Many empty airports, economically wasteful high speed rail, bridges to nowhere and other vanity projects are all around China along with the ring of ghost towns around every single city. It's all absurdly over-valued and the culture of major state banks is simply to pretend that they'll some day get a return on funding these investments (because the alternative is to accept they are worthless and acknowledge that they're basically insolvent). State media backs up this nonsense. So the plan is to keep expanding credit to meet interest payments on debts that cannot otherwise be paid. Major banking crisis inevitable.

>buying up and developing foreign assets
They do this but it is often quite exaggerated. Chinese media exaggerate it to push the "our glorious Party is taking over the world so stick with us!" meme and the Western media exaggerates it because fear-mongering sells in the West "oh no, China taking over the world".

China is attempting to export their infrastructure bubble to the developing world in return for resources. As long as there is a good source of credit, these nations will smile at Chinese companies building them shit. Soon as the nations are unable/unwilling to make interest payments, the situation will be drastically different. China has already lost what appear to be billions in places like Libya and Venezuela
>all the while having a billion poor people of their own who could probably use some of that money for themselves...

English professor is correct.

How do you know so much chink-shit?

Lost billions of what? Fake debt? There will be more where that came from. I do agree by and large with your analysis, however, even if it is less, uh, charitable than mine.

Goes back to the princeling thing. It make me think of how the Brits used to invite future foreign leaders to Oxford in order to educate them and then send them back to run a de facto world empire. Seems like education and pedigree doesn't always work for more than a generation or two.

You are so wrong it's laughable.

Absolute commie scum

How can he see anything

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> china uncensored

>American Sup Forums experts on China

help me stop laughing

What's Hong Kong like?
Do you guys have internet censorship like the rest of China?

You call out enrmies fir corruption.
Cover up for your cronies.
Assume more power.
>commie
>friend

is the president of the most powerful country on the world.

Mexico is the most powerful country in the world.

Worked there for a few years, speak the language pretty well, deal with PRC Chinese every day at work, ask them questions, listen to the answers.
>we have allowed too many of them in to our country

>Lost billions of what? Fake debt? There will be more where that came from.
That's the problem... China seems to believe it can just generate as much debt as it wants because the US appears to be doing it. But their debt-to-GDP ratio is (even by their own notoriously massaged statistics) already higher than that of the US and the thing they never seem to really get these days is that they are not really comparable to the US and will not be any time soon; the US is far richer, far more powerful, far more respected, having far more high level technical expertise, far more cultural reach and people are far more likely to want to work/settle there because it is a far, far, FAR better place to live.
And I don't think it is just fake debt that is being invested in those countries (and others), by the way.

>princeling thing
Well, Xi represents a more arrogant, hubristic new generation of the Chinese elite who are on some level drinking their own Kool Aid. And yeah, his generation appear to be significantly removed from the wisdom of Deng Xiaoping who basically understood that China is relatively shit and will have a looooooot of catching up to do for a loooong time.

That being said, I think Trump really gave Xi a fright and China will be more sensible and less provocative for a while.

Thank you for providing a great example of the new kind of PRC Chinese hubris that I've referred to.

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I think the communist party will be around for a long time. As you pointed out, they are hardly communist. They let a few old Maoist and Marxist scholars kick around the party for appearances, but that's about it.

Deng Xiaoping was a political genius (and the most significant figure in the formation of China as we know it today). Even though he completely changed the face of the communist party, he understood the need for stability and continuity. China had been through the ringer for 200 years, under the Manchurians, the japs, during the civil war, and then Mao going full retard with the cultural revolution. Deng's genius was to keep the name "communist," to keep the pictures of Mao everywhere, to keep his fat face on the money, etc. All while instituting smart capitalist economic policies, including supply side tax cuts. But point being, his big commitment was to economic growth and social stability. He had a revolution while making it seem like it wasn't a revolution. Everyone after him in the politburo has stuck to his plan of stability and "harmony" above all else.

I think any changes to the party will come from the growing middle class, but if anything it will be a gradual transition to more government transparency and better specification of powers and that's about it. I don't think we'll see any major liberal or democratic revolution in china in our lifetimes

This

A great leader according to trump

Yeah, well they're slow, but they also plan for the long haul, and they don't have as much to lose.

It's not like the US can reverse what's in place now overnight, so if Xi is sensible, he'll be willing to work toward good deals.

>Through a very murky business that involved a dead British fixer of Bo's, Bo was publicly shamed and removed.
That whole situation was so shady. It reminded me of the part in Godfather two with the senator and the dead hooker.

i find that while mainlanders are more nationalist, the ABC and ABJ and ABK's are literally all retarded. All American born Asians love each other and embrace "asian identify" while being brainwashed by cultural marxism. They literally say "forget the past, we are all asian now!" and unite under the ideal of "FUCK WHITEY"

You should come take a look at the Chinatowns and Koreatowns in the US, bunch of race mixing Chinks and gooks and nips working together, hiring each other, and opening places side by side

Hoards of asians hanging out with each other that all hate whitey (the girls dont mind fucking singular white boys tho)

FACT: Americans are the world's most powerful race.

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The 40 million figure is just meme. There was a 30 million population recession in China in the early 60's, but that's a smaller population recession than what the US went through in the 30's proportionally.

o fugg
Was Samuel Huntington was right? Clash of civilizations when?

>population recession
IT WAS 60 MILLION

Fattest race

Confucian influence in the Communist Party? Hasn't he continued the religious persecution of traditional Chinese philosophies or has he actually started to reverse it?

I think China could really use an injection of old school Daoism, problem being they were persecuted and restricted so heavily. I hope that's changed with this guy but I haven't heard of anything being different.

Slow or not, the choice is permanent stagnation (where ordinary Chinese realize that their lives are not improving any more and get restless under dictatorship) or a major banking crisis. And after a while, the banking crisis will happen anyway.

>but they also plan for the long haul
This is one of the biggest China memes out there. It is simply untrue.
>desertification
>massive pollution
>depletion/degredation of water table
>massive infrastructure overcapacity
>massive looting by the elite and the business class
>unwillingness to improve the rights of the middle class which means that they will continue to lose a large % of the people with the expertise/money to flee and never really be a 1st world country
This is not the actions of people who are truly planning for the long haul. They like to SAY they are long-term planners, but if you look at their bumbling responses to their major stock market crash a couple of summers ago - and loss of over a quarter, it seems, of their Forex since shows that they aren't quite the incredibly wise sages they like to imply they are.

What is actually happening is that the wealthy are grabbing what they can while they can and moving as much as they can in to the West.

Yeah, it was seriously fucked. I remember a guy talking about a dead Brit in Chongqing in a Shanghai bar at the time. He was saying (loudly and drunkenly) that he knew Heywood and Heywood wasn't even really a drinker at all. He was straight up calling it a murder. I didn't know of Heywood myself at the time and thought the guy was maybe a bit crazy... but a few months later, when that story broke, I thought FUUUUCK

one chink to rule them all

>What is actually happening is that the wealthy are grabbing what they can while they can and moving as much as they can in to the West.
The way people act these days, this is relative long term planning. Why no recycle the debt to hold real assets by literally repopulating the target region?

It's the same game as importing the caliphate.

The Communist Party of China currently practices a mixed-market economy just like we in The West do. They have a higher percentage of their economy in the hands of State-owned corporations but that's being brought down gradually as they get transferred from State to private ownership (read; the well-connected).

That was an excellent and informative read.

Fuck the Chinese.

Well, yes it's long term planning on the part of the rich for themselves alone. They're saving their own asses.

And when the Ponzi scheme comes crashing down, ordinary Chinese in China are going to be left holding the bag again as their former rulers flee overseas with most of the country's wealth - just like in 1949 when Chiang took all of the Emperor's gold and lots of his treasure to Taiwan.

>hold real assets
i.e. get in to bidding wars with each other for insanely overpriced condos in a market will collapse as soon as the flow of money out of China stops. It's a foothold though, yes.

>repopulating the target region
Nah, the Chinese almost always end up assimilated. Within a few generations, many of them are embarrassed by how Asian languages sound and trying to racemix. That being said, importing too many commie richkids and letting them build wealthy insular enclaves within our cities is not a good thing. As I said before, we've allowed too much of that already and need to drastically increase the cost of EB5 visas.

That bar story is a great little anecdote. Enjoyed

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>overbuilding infrastructure

What an absolutely idiotic statement.

They're not building much useless shit, user.

East Asians are dominating the world next to Jews.

Meanwhile you white Pigs are busy with sucking black dicks.
Your demise is all written in stone.

Your threads about China crashing soon make me laugh every time, because it is clear to me that you try to escape from your own reality, which is getting WHITE PIGGUS replaced.

You faggots won't exist anymore in a several decades.

>That being said, importing too many commie richkids and letting them build wealthy insular enclaves within our cities is not a good thing.
This worries me the most. It's been years near me where they don't try to speak English unless they have to, so now we have many who can't speak English, probably don't even leave the house, etc.

That's a trend of reduction of assimilation, or at best reverse assimilation. Whether the guys at the top know what they're doing or not, they're exporting a cultural revolution that wants to adopt a Chinese version of Westerism in the same way that you pointed out they're exporting their inflation.

Sorry Zhang, it's the biggest, dumbest infrastructure/property bubble in the history of humanity. It's already hobbling your banking system and it's probably going to take it down.

businessinsider.com/these-chinese-cities-are-ghost-towns-2017-4/

Every Chinese city is surrounded by ghost towns now.

>Brazil
>talking of civilization

FYI, the West is in its decadent phase, clear signs.
East Asians don't even need to push the West military wise.
They obliterate themselves already.

stop spreading stupid shits ffs white trashes
LUL so stupid and misleading and make ur pigs more retarded

Sure

The US is in a terrible condition. It's right before a depression. The velocity of USD (tl;dr definition - how fast is the economy moving) went from a high of 2.2 in 1997 to an all-time low of 1.4 in 2017, lower than the fucking Euro. If it drops further (and it will), the Fed will be forced to inflate the dollar, and they're currently raising the rates specifically for that reason. If they don't handle this correctly the US economy collapses like it did in 1929.

Sounds quite bad, right? China has a velocity of 0.5.

Western people will never follow Chinese people. And if anything, the richkids living it up in the West will go back to China a bit too used to uncensored Internet (which they are all addicted to) and speaking their minds.

Many of them don't want to go back though. I know a Chinese girl from a rich family. She's smart as hell (it seems that all the genuinely smart Chinese I know are female... the men are such antisocial sperglords, even the relatively successful ones) and was immediately offered a job (through a connection of course) at the Bank of China. Groomed for the top, right? After a year she thought "fuck this" and is now back in the US working as a college math tutor.

you realize his "anti-corruption" campaign is just his cover for going after the clique of people who where in power before him

Do you think Individualism would ever make headway in China or is hive mind collectivism too thick in their culture for the next few generations?

kek yeah, the powermonger Chinks I know are usually girls. But that only further expands the spread of them.

>tfw live in Beijing

muh lungs

Individualism to such a degree like in the west will never establish in China and with the chinese people.
Don't mistake western decadency (lgbt, feminist etc. movements and the stuff) with healthy individualism.

He seems WAY more chill than the previous ones and enver act like a jerk, also he's actually trying to convince NK to not start WW3.

There are Chinese in every country breeding, prepare for the future takeover.

Sorry I don't speak West Korean.

Keep posting user, it's nice and rare to see someone with knowledge here. /subscribed

They're pretty barbaric as a whole but they're more civilized than what we've seen from the migrants. It would be interesting to be a white minority in a Asian vs Migrant majority country, would rather it be a movie than a reality though.

Oh man, I could write an essay on this topic but I'll try to keep it short.

In my experience, mainland Chinese people have zero faith in the basic decency of other people, a consequence of Mao. There is no public trust whatsoever in that country and they retain this even in the West (because they have also been taught to believe we are no better than them and, if anything, much worse). This makes them extremely selfish "I might as well fuck you because you'd fuck me if you had a chance" and in that sense they are individuals.

However, what holds them back in forming relationships with Westerners is a crippling fear of looking a little bit silly in a social situation, according to their rules AKA losing face/mianzi.

I have known Chinese males who have had mental breakdowns because of "losing face" in the West. And if it happens over here and they have a bit of money behind them, they inevitably end up at a psychiatrist who fills their heads with shit, dopes them up and then fucks them up permanently.

The other problem with PRC Chinese is that the culture they come from basically has one official way of thinking about a hell of a lot of issues. So they are shit at debating with people because there is no real public debate in the land they come from. If they disagree with people, they often act extremely childish and/or rude and this makes Western people think "fuck this idiot".

So, basically it's a combination of face culture and totalitarian brainwashing that makes them look like not-individuals to us.

And if a mainland Chinese decides "fuck playing this stupid medieval face game" then he is liable to get called a banana in the same way that a black who is acting "too white" would be called a choc ice.

If they haven't assimilated by the time they're in their mid 20s they probably won't ever. You'll keep seeing college students like pic related. But within a few generations they tend to assimilate.

It depends on how they prove their loyalty
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>But that only further expands the spread of them
I suppose so

But the Chinese girls who give up the chance to be a top commie sleaze for honest (non-political) work in science/education/engineering are OK by me.

>I have known Chinese males who have had mental breakdowns because of "losing face" in the West
This is the same with Indians that come over here. They all drive BMWs and work in Tim Hortons. I can only imagine the debt they are in.

Unironically this, they will stab us in the back if we go to war with NK. 100% guaranteed

That's fascinating user.

Have you seen any influences creeping through from various Eastern Philosophies/Religions vs the state atheist/whatever indoctrination they're used to?

Since they're such a big force in the world now it's shocking how little studied their potential cultural directions are, with interactions with the west. We honestly need essays and opinions, a lot more of them.

I wouldn't trust them, based on my experience. Why do you think they're whoring out to DARPA et al instead of their own kind? I work with these kind.

Obama's America Invents Act wasn't enough?

Soon

I love those long-form, serious comments.

>So they are shit at debating with people because there is no real public debate

This is rich, coming from a world with leftist media dictating you to follow the state of the art PC.

You all know that you will get publically lynched, which is why the absolute majority of you white pigs are coming here to your safe zone.

Cultural differences have differences in no-go topics.

You white pigs are quite arrogant, which will be your downfall.

Debt or rich parents.

I remember a Chinese ex girlfriend telling me about one of her friends who was a manager in a local company in China. They hired a new kid fresh out of American college. He showed up on his first day in a brand new BMW for a salary of 3000RMB($400)/month!!

>Have you seen any influences creeping through from various Eastern Philosophies/Religions vs the state atheist/whatever indoctrination they're used to?
A very relevant question. Consider the history o the PRC: it was founded by a popular insurrection against an out of touch ruling elite brutally oppressing people and presiding over an enormous wealth gap. This revolutionary ideology was lionized up till Mao's death and beyond. But it's a bit inconvenient now because the Communist Party elite is now itself an out of touch ruling elite brutally oppressing people and presiding over an enormous wealth gap.

In an attempt to deal with this, Confucius has been gradually rehabilitated in the PRC (having been directly attacked by Mao). Confucius was all about hierarchy, knowing your place and managing conflicts in a non-violent way... music to the ears of the modern elite.

As for how much of this gets through to ordinary mainlanders? Educated Chinese usually know how to parrot the official lines without really thinking or caring about them. My guess is most aren't really paying attention and are simply looking out for themselves. What matters is that the Party can convince a significant enough percentage of China's poor that they can still get ahead through hard work in the current system... ideology is a minor part of the discussion to these farmers and migrant workers.

>We honestly need essays and opinions, a lot more of them.
Couldn't agree more. There are some good commentary and books out there, though.

>You white pigs are quite arrogant
ahhahahahahah oh chink-shit Germany

See the Communist Party as the Communist Dynasty, which it is. It is also Han controlled which hasn't happened to China in a long time.

Well yes, I stressed non-political work. And maybe I should have gone further and said non-sensitive work, too. I agree with you.

But I think we can still find a place for the honest and smart ones who just want to live an honest life away from a toxic police state.

>a leaf
>with Trudeau as president

Ahahahaha
Canada is Asian territory in a few decades.

So who has the most future power in China, the party? the educated? the peasant masses? the new middle class they're trying to create? their academics? surely not their media? Does the party even need to appease the masses to prevent revolt or are they basically irrelevant policy wise?

One of the funniest things I've ever seen was a brand new Chinese brat who showed up.
>no school
>no job
>parents tell him to buy a new car
>never takes the temporary tags off
>car never moves, ever
>lease expires
>the battery is dead
>he stomps around on the phone for a while
>when the tow company comes around to tow it away he can't produce evidence that it's his car
lol

Chairman Mao Invented Traditional Chinese Medicine. The stuff hippie and uneducated leftists love so much. But it was all propaganda.

> “Even though I believe we should promote Chinese medicine,” Mao told him, “I personally do not believe in it. I don’t take Chinese medicine.”

How about they fix their shit instead?