Why is fascism considered "right wing"???

I understand fascists have no use for commies and his versa. But they are both inherently left because of total police state and big gov. No?

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Everything is right wing when you're a communist.

>thinking the political scale is only left and right
WEW
Babby's first poli-sci lesson

Fascism is somewhere in the middle.

Right and left are mostly just buzzwords and their meanings change depending on which country your in.

Fascism was born out of the right wing nationalist parties but their economic policies were nothing like the American right.

Educate yourself
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>I am liberal econ and conservative morals
>I am smart enough to realize Liberal economics don't work tho
>It would work under a nationalistic society where mass migration isn't a issue

>trying to put everything on a goddamn number line

I can tell you failed math class as child.

>I feel like this test is wrong tho they throw Hitler at authoritarian right when he was economical liberal didn't want to see his fellow Germans starving and out of work but was conservative authoritarian morally.

Wew lad what a spicy post Jamal. See if you can tell the difference between me and a commie while I am incinerating bankers and niggers as the Fuhrer intended and the communist is commiting White genocide for xer rulers in Israel you subhuman cunt.

jews

Why are you green texting everything?
Hitler was smack dab in the middle economically and hard authoritarian socially
Not sure why that's a difficult concept to understand if you have any clue what NatSoc stands for as a whole

>it's almost like the map needs another dimension.

Also screw these maps and tests, everything, person, government, and idea is different as time advances so some calling themselves these labels is sorta like I haven't thought out everything but i agree mostly with such and such

Always refreshing to see how little nu/pol/ knows about politics. What a shit show.

>think a meme on pol accurately desribes all polical spectrums
>tells people to educate themselves
JUST

Well while we're here, does anybody have any photos of Hitler quotes that are put onto photos of liberal role models? Always looking for more to trick libtards

>reality
more like hallucination

total anarchy is just slavery to the whims of the strong and powerful
total government is just slavery to the whims of the strong and powerful

It's strange to me how nazism is considered far right. If you look into the actual policies of nazi Germany you'll find that they were fairly centrist, if not left leaning, from an economic perspective.

Authoritarianism is not the sole defining factor of fascism. This is confusing to most because fascist and authoritarian are seen as interchangeable.

u r liek lil babby

'Left' means 'progressive' and supporting 'new' policies. When the term was invented, this encompassed things like nationalism and industrialism.
'Right' means 'traditional', supporting 'old' policies. When the term was invented this included monarchism, religion, etc.

The United States is an inherently Leftist country.

Left and right comes from the aftermath of the French revolution. On the left side of the parliament there were gathered the classical liberals, secularists and constituionalists and and on the right side the royalists, theocrats and traditionalists.

So Lockean classical liberalism which beliefs the individual is the measure of all things and that the world is heading toward a better future, and the past is always worse than the present is objectively a left-wing ideology. Fascism was a counter-Enlightenment right-wing reaction to the unbridled left-wing capitalist individualism and tried to restore the extended family as the basic unit of the social order and institute a non-economical approach to life and society.

This.

Hell, the mainstream conservative party in Denmark is still called "Left".

the axis of the cube are good but the individual boxes are shit tier

>Fascism was born out of the right wing nationalist parties
No they weren't. They were born out of the left wing socialist parties.

because "right wing" has turned into anti personal choice and "left wing" has turned into personal liberation

>not taking the bogpill

DUUDE HORSESHO UR THE SAME LMAO
neck yourself unironically
communism is the rejection of the absolute natural order of things, whereas fascism is the acceptance of the natural order

Meaning behind words change over time. In the US left means big gov, not so free market and culturally progressive right is the opposite.

Even in the US, the left doesn't necessarily mean big gov. For example, they still call fascism far-right.

5 star post.

are you 12 OP?

bro how about you stop that stupid shit

"""natural order""" decided by who?

What is full authoritarian right? Entire market freedom but led by one guy? Sounds unfeasible.

No it doesn't. Left and right are still firmly about social values.

The standard right, the Republicans, cuckservatives, what have you, care about the free market because it is in their corporate interests and it's the only value that right-wing people are allowed to believe in without being called racist. The Democratic party was already swinging toward leftist social progressivism in the 90s, until with Obama they all but adopted it as their main platform.

>fascism is the acceptance of the natural order
>trusting the state enough to authorise it to use violence against you
>natural order
there's no water where this guy lives, just KoolAid for miles.

It will work out in 100 to 200 years though, or we die off. Thinking AI and genetic editing / changing humans will have a huge impact on intellect and the way humans think.

We're not evolved or technologically advanced for liberal, leftist, utopian ideals.

Market freedom has nothing to do with it.

Authoritarian right: few personal freedoms with established and rigid hierarchy
Authoritarian left: few personal freedoms with attempts to force equalization

It's the difference between trying to force a hierarchy that benefits yourself and trying to force the dissolution of the hierarchy.

And by that I mean corruption, greed, religion, etc regresses us. No form of government or economy is truly safe from humans desu. Whether capitalism or socialism. Human greed and lust for power over eachother, will corrupt either side.

I'm convinced Americans have never read any political theory or history at all. The only people who believe 'Nazis are the real leftists' are Americans.

Your founders would all be ashamed of you.

Oh I was just under the impression conservatism meant getting government out of your life as much as possible.

Fascism relies on the economic concept of Dirigisme, which is a profoundly socialist ideology

Therefore it is impossible for fascism to be a right-wing ideology

wouldn't that be more towards libertarianism?

Because the vast majority of people understand nothing about political philosophy and therefore make poor classifications.

Fascism, communism, and liberalism are not on a continuum. They are each totally different and incompatible assumptions about morality that lead to different logical policy conclusions.

Everybody in this thread needs to die.

so what makes the Authoritarian Right, 'right'?

Because Google says so.
Now eat you protein pills.

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I just said: Right is express embracing of inherent human nature of hierarchy, even if the hierarchy that's actually made is forced or artificial, while the left aims to reduce hierarchy completely.

At least we have founders, leaf.

Canada is literally the Mom-and-Dad-went-out-for-cigarettes-and-never-came-back of nations.

>Facism is a leftist ideology
Totally agree, in fact, nationalism is socialist, because it puts the people first (except with hitler it put the aryans first as opposed to the german jews).

Corporatism is the extremism of the right, it puts profit before people, environment, health etc. It's the extremity of capitalism. That's why we try to maintain balance with the two economic spectrums..But when government gets bought out by lobbyist.. government is essentially corrupted into corporatism.. Just like now, as you can see the EPA is being dissected in order to profit.

Everyone's a filthy leftist when you're ancap

This meme is shit.

because google says so

Political compass thread? Political compass thread.

>profits b4 peepul

you're an idiot who doesn't even know what a job is, let alone macro economics.

read basic economics by sowell then you can talk

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Wait, you literally don't think corporations / companies have ever put profits before people? I'm legitimately curious.

I know what a job is, I co-own a round A startup. I work almost 80 hours a week.

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Unintentional ones are the best

As long as the government is benevolent and well-meaning towards its people, there's nothing wrong with it being strong and having high authority over some fields.

Why is he ginger?

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The third axis should be globalism/nationalism. Economic left and right, authoritarian and libertarian, and globalist versus nationalist.

I think that'd be good to help people better define their political views.

Im not talking about popular terms but the distinction in poli sci

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Why the fuck to libtards have to take things so literally NO MATTER WHAT IS SAID.

This is a common debate tactic for liberals and women.

If you make a statement, and aren't ridiculously specific, they will tear it apart based on your supposedly "vague" wording. They will pretend that they can't comprehend your specific implication, or read between lines, or draw the most obvious conclusion, solely so they can argue back with something - anything.

You: "BET doesn't appeal to me."
Them: "OMG You just said black people shouldn't be in movies and music!"

This shit is really old and tired. They do it CONSTANTLY and it's one of the reasons that Trump won. They are impossible to hold conversation or debate with because they deny that they can have basic perception skills.

People are sick of it. We're all called racists, homophobes, and sexists solely because of this one tactic they use of pretending to not understand what you're saying. They know damn well what's going on, but it's the only way they can push their extremist viewpoints - by making you EQUALLY extreme.

Fascism is socially and economically conservative.

Well, what authoritarians have been Left-wing?

I'm sure if you name one or two, some will say their not authoritarian.

NatSoc =/= Fascist
NatSoc is however literally radical centrism.

I hate being trapped in this dimension. I must know what 4d truly looks like

>cant be nationalist and individualist
do you even hoppe faggot?

Smoke some DMT. Say hi to the machine elves from me.

>being filthy 3dimentional plebeian
It's easy just walk up

Wrong, Left/Right isn't related to authoritarianism.
Left/Right comes from some French parliament where the pro-traditionalists would be on the right, the progressives that wanted class equality were on the left.

Fascism and communism are completing leftist ideologies. Communists call fascists right wing because fascists are about one inch to the right of the communists. The real political right is classical liberalism.

Oh, someone already answered it A better answer too.

>traditionalist society
>will tolerate capitalism, though it can technically adopt any economic system
>nationalist rather than globalist world theater
>might makes right, pull your own weight policies

Seems pretty right-wing conservative to me.

The overton window has shifted so far to the left during the past century that genuine liberals are now ultra right-wing extremists.

Far Left:
Communism

Moderate Left:
Socialism

Soft Left:
Liberal

Soft Right:
Conservative

Moderate Right:
Monarchism

Far Right:
Fascism

>anti-coms and anti-fascists are both left wing
This propaganda meme was started by Jews when FDR and his kikes were trying desperately to get the US into the war. Popular sentiment was against the Soviets, kike propagandists in the yellow media went all out to push the "commu-nazi" meme. Glenn Beck and Alex Jones, two shabbos goy kike shills, push this meme today. All of you basic bitch normalfag cuckservatives are good little sheep, just like every generation of cucks that died before Israel before you. You're why the West will die.

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antifa isn't anarchist, its communist, started by jews in the 1930s

behind every "anarchist" and "lolbertarian" is a kike, just like in communism

because that spectrum is based on a false paradigm

I hate dope smoking, sister fucking, ayn rand reading, trap loving, drumpf supporting, autistic libertardians who want to make the West a giant shopping mall/gay club.
A libertarian paradise would actually look a lot like Liberia or some post-colonial shithole + extra faggotry and POZ centers. Sorry for not wanting to live in a country where the lower classes are forced to make dildos for 99 cents an hour.

No he basically subsidized corporations, but with the intentions of growing their production and power.

Don't disrespect Adolf Hitler's legacy by making him some kind of pussy who loved Russians. Most Slavs in the USSR supported the Bolsheviks anyway.

Nigga what.

Democrats are teh real racists! *squeak*

Natural order is a pretty subjective concept, under my understanding a tribal anarchy represents natural order.

>tribal anarchy
Read that again a few times user.

>Most Slavs in the USSR supported the Bolsheviks anyway
even the ones who truly supported them were killed, so its not there was a choice. But every area liberated by the Germans quickly and enthusiastically turned in Bolshevism. Activates those almonds.

Savage.

*turned on Bolshevism

Fascism is 1930s proletarian leftism. You can go way further right than that.

it's not even summer yet

Tribes are basically extended families and do not necessarily imply any kind of political organization