Isle of Man thread

What does Sup Forums think of the island surrounded by bongs and potatoes

inb4 irrelevant

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Played against a football(soccer) club from your island in a tournament in manchester back in 2009. Seemed like nice folks overall.

>isle of man
>sicily

dont forget hong kong

irrelevant

We allow you to be a tax haven in exchange for turning your island into a motorcycle track, don't make us change our minds.

Sicilians are moorish rape babies.

comfy, my nan (dearly missed) loved the place

We would never get rid of our local A road racetrack

My dad lived there for a bit, used to marshal for the TT. Said it was a pretty comfy place to live.

i think
nice valknut
dont be vain about ur island unless u have missiles

>not Isle of Womyn

viking clay, gib back

Basically just irish/welsh people, so shit

Wait, since when was the isle of Mann a separate country? I thought it was a bong hole like Gibraltar.

we're a dependency

>queen rules us
>westminster can't really do shit to us
>we have our own government
>if attacked, we're defended by the bongs

same with jersey and guernsey, except they're not as great as us

Hellhole backwater full of inbreds with webbed fingers

you're literally just another consituency

I think you have the most badass motorcyle races ever.

>Wait, since when was the isle of Mann a separate country?

Since, like forever. When the Isle of Man Purchase Act of 1765 was enacted it vested the feudal rights of the Dukes of Atholl as part of the British Crown.

So the Çhiarn Vannin (Lord of Mann) is Elizabeth Windsor, whom the British call as Queen Elizabeth II.

Although the House of Keys (Manx Parliament) governs the Isle of Man itself, the power of external affairs (Defence, Immigration and Foreign Relations) is undertaken by the UK Government as agents for the British Crown.

The Isle of Man pays the UK government for the costs of defense (about 1 million or so a year as I recall, invasion being pretty unlikely)

The tax haven bit only works for the really rich, for most folks like myself the additional costs of living on the island makes up for the slightly lower taxes.

Also if you want to go on holiday anyway outside UK and Ireland you have to transit through a UK or Irish airport as there are no regular connections to Europe or the US.

I am confused about your flag. What does it symbolize.
Also, how's the politics going around there? I don't hear much about it.

>I am confused about your flag. What does it symbolize.

The triskelion is an ancient device which predates the Viking period, it is unclear when it became part of the Manx coat of arms, but remaining written records show it was in use before 1270 CE.

As to what it symbolises, this is also unclear.

At least that is what my uncle, Arthur Fife who was one of the teachers at Castle Rushen school taught me.

>you have to transit through a UK or Irish airport as there are no regular connections to Europe or the US.

our flights list is pathetic lmao (pic)

>I am confused about your flag. What does it symbolize.
It's a symbol dating back from the vikings, not really sure on what it means myself but it's better than having just the union jack (pre-1932)

>Also, how's the politics going around there? I don't hear much about it.
neither do i
we had a GE last year which about 1/3 voted in
who we voted for wouldn't make a difference at all
nobody knew any of the candidates cause we only have 3 solid parties (liberals, labour & green) and most are independents anyway

to sum it up:
nobody gives a shit about elections here

>Only 1/3 voted
>Nobody know any of the candidates
>Nobody gives a shit about elections here.
Good lord, is there any reason for the apathy towards politics?

Do you have any remnants of Norse law, or unique land title rights that don't exist elsewhere in the UK

>our flights list is pathetic lmao (pic)

I thought the Blackpool Airport link had reopened?

I always used that connection as it was quickest and the airport was virtually empty. I flew on the last but one flight a few years ago when they first closed it.

because they're all retired old men who don't change anything - it's fine the way it is honestly lol
the last time the government was useful was the railway crisis during the 1970s

>unique land title rights that don't exist elsewhere in the UK

does turning a massive public ring road into a motorcycle circuit for 2 weeks fall into that?

i went to blackpool airport a few years back
looked so cheap and improvised

Can you eat Swans without repercussions?

i have no clue
but i'm intrigued

>Do you have any remnants of Norse law

Tynwald itself is of Viking origin, but there are no written documents prior to the Stanley family taking possession of the island in the 15th century.

Although it is the oldest parliament in the world, it is not quite clear how old it is, but at least 1,000 years.

Viking law was mostly custom, precedent and practice and mostly an oral tradition is my understanding.

>it's fine the way it is honestly lol
Well, if you say so. I have no other questions, thank you for providing me with this information. I will be sure to use it at a later date.

Do you guys have guns?

>Although it is the oldest parliament in the world, it is not quite clear how old it is, but at least 1,000 years.

It's debated upon whether we or Iceland hold the title of oldest parliament

no probs user

they're not banned
we have strict firearm laws though iirc

>Can you eat Swans without repercussions?

Yes, but they taste horrible (kind of fishy tasting).

The prescription against eating swans only applies in England (I don't think it applies in Scotland or Northern Ireland).

The law only protects protected species of swans like the Whooper swan.

The fact that in England, Elizabeth Windsor is deemed owner of all mute swans doesn't extend to other swan species that are not endangered.

>It's debated upon whether we or Iceland hold the title of oldest parliament

I went to the 1,000 anniversary celebration at St. John's when I was a kid in 1979. Still got the photo's somewhere.

Your irrelevance will save the White race one day. Nobody knows you exist so when Europe falls to Islam all the Whites can just hide on your island and be safe. Problem solved,

Probably helped by not being part of the EU (well, not really), we're mentioned in the annex of the UK's EEC Accession document because of the Common Purse Agreement.

Do you speak Manx language?

We're not part of the EU but Brexit is very fucking important because the UK (mainly England) is a very important trade partner because most items go through the UK to get to us

Yet we never even had a say in the vote
Not like it would've mattered anyway

Manx is dead (sadly)
I only know English

>Do you speak Manx language

Yes, but not really. It is taught in schools, but more as a preservation of culture thing than as a real language.

It's just a variant of gaelic, not much different from that spoken by the Scots or Irish.

I've forgotten pretty much everything I was taught in school because nobody uses it in practice except for a few common phrases and sayings.

Are Manx cats popular there, is it sort of a civic duty to own one?

>Manx is dead (sadly)
>I only know English

When and where did you go to school?

We live in Port Erin (when I am there) and went to Castle Rushen school in Castletown from mid 1970's to the mid 1980's.

Even then it was taught as kind of an adjunct to Manx History.

>Are Manx cats popular there, is it sort of a civic duty to own one?

There is a Manx Cat Sanctuary that you can visit and they take donations of money and cat food.

The problem with Manx cats is that if two Manx cats breed the kittens die horribly, it is only the combination of a Manx cat (with the mutant gene) and an ordinary cat that can produce another Manx.

If you are a breeder of Manx cats you need to be really careful about how they are bred, because producing an incompatible one is cruel and dangerous to the mother.

They are fucked up in the head as well.

so, like, is there, like, only one man on the isle or something?

Heres some common phrases if you want to look at it
omniglot.com/language/phrases/manx.php

Manx cats are sort of just there
Not really a civic duty to own one (plus dogs are better anyway imho)

It went to St. Ninians
I finished my exams almost a year ago, I'm in college rn

Manx stuff was never really pushed there, no language classes, Manx history was barely brought up (there was a mention of Knockaloe camp during a WW1 topic but that was about it)

There was a manx language club in my primary school however, but I didn't attend that

honorary Englishmen

>so, like, is there, like, only one man on the isle or something?

The last census was April 2016 and the population count was 83,314 although I suspect that was overstated by people who were classified as resident for tax purposes, but only live in the Isle of Man during the warm months.

I think the actual population is about 70,000 or so, but that's quite small considering the size of the place.

Much of the island is uninhabited glens like parts of Scotland.

>I think the actual population is about 70,000
We're somewhere around 88,000 last time I checked

>I finished my exams almost a year ago, I'm in college rn

That explains it I suspect. With the current Manx Curriculum it's a lot more crowded than when I went to school back in the 70's and 80's, which is why when we did stuff like history it was more localised and in depth.

The Keys are always banging on about how Manx language and culture is important, but I'm not surprised this isn't reflected in the actual curriculum.

My uncle taught about half of the current House of Keys and he says "The were idiots then and they've learned nothing since".

>We're somewhere around 88,000 last time I checked

Nope, as I said last years census was 83,314 but I don't believe the number as it overstates those who are only tax resident on the island.

I think 70,000 is probably closer to the mark.

Then again, I'm basing that on the old joke about the Isle of Man being "Seventy thousand drunkards clinging to a rock", which is itself dated.

We are all biased in our own ways.

you lot are pretty cool, Isle of Man is comfy as fuck (but expensive)

I didn't even know they have their own gaelic dialect on the IoM.

>There was a manx language club in my primary school however, but I didn't attend that
Should have done that. I love these quirky small languages. And they survive better in these geographic circumstances of small islands and Fjords. Frisian is one of the few minority languages that are still left in Germany.

That three legged Sicilian icon looks fucking satanic

>Isle of Man is comfy as fuck (but expensive)

It's bloody wet during the winter and often covered in mist (known as the Veil of Manannán)

From my bedroom in Port Erin you can see the Mourne Mountains in Northern Ireland on a clear day though, which is about 80 miles away.

It's nice when it isn't raining horizontally.

>which is about 80 miles away

Oops, I meant 80 kilometres away (about 50 miles).