"Cultural Marxism" doesn't exist

Why do so many people on Sup Forums constantly parade around the term "Cultural Marxism" to refer to anything they don't like? Notice how they never cite the works of the Frankfurt School themselves but merely go off on conjecture about the members' Jewish origins? Well this actual Marxist has debunked the myth:

youtube.com/watch?v=odhhGmwxZ5I

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-structuralism
web.csulb.edu/~ssayeghc/theory/poststructuralism.htm
youtube.com/watch?v=4fo5jLdJlgI
mpcdot.com/forums/topic/8767-culturally-appropriating-the-frankfurt-school/
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This little cunt's analysis is fucking shit. 'Le smug' tone doesn't discount cultural Marxism.

Though I will say the Frankfurt School did good criticism on Capitalism.

"cultural Marxism" is retarded Nazi propaganda. Fascism is degenerate. I think most of Sup Forums would be strasserist who hate Hitler if they actually understood what they were talking about lmao

If you've read the Franks, you'd know they have absolutely nothing to do with SJWs.

What makes you think it's not real?

1. No evidence.

2. I've read many texts from the Frankfurt School, and very little of what they wrote seems to promote the idea that their thought influenced modern SJWs.

3. No evidence.

4. No evidence.

>Why do so many people on Sup Forums constantly parade around the term "Cultural Marxism" to refer to anything they don't like?
I'm pretty sure that they're jut memeing/shitposting about it. I think everyone clearly knows that Cultural Marxism doesn't exit.

>cultural marxism is nazi propaganda
Now I'll give you a 4/10 for getting to reply but;
Do you really think the thing created to stop communism is somehow propaganda of the Nazis?

like...what?

I hope so.

Call it whatever the fuck you want.
Marxist analysis has seeped into every area and that's clear by looking at the current state of American academia.

Academia isn't Marxist, it's post-structuralist which is completely different from Marxism.

Marxism is fucking materialism do you even know what that is? Seriously guys

>We "progessive" "liberals" demand you use our terms

Call it "Critical Theory" then Commie. But we know what it really is.

>post-structuralist which is completely different from Marxism.
oooh la la.

Well the proper term for it is "critical theory."

seriously. look it up. its literally exactly what cultural marxism is with a proper name.

>there isn't a single university which doesn't teach critical theory
Except the Frankfurt School was a world apart from post-structuralism, which is what said schools of thought (3rd wave feminism, postcolonial theory, and such) are based upon.

Also:
>kabbalah
>is a book
Go back to school.

The universities don't teach the Critical Theory of the Frankfurt School anymore, dummie. The garbage coming out of the academy is POST-STRUCTURALISM which has very little to do with the Franks.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-structuralism
Literally the first line links to critical theory.

It's methodology is far different as are its influences.

If you want to blame a philosopher for SJWs, blame Martin Heidegger.

The issue is Sup Forums likes to use cultural marxism in place of the word Post-Modern.

Yes, it's a redux of the whole "da commies r cummin' 2 get us".

what is thid garbage? just gas the kikes.

See? You complain about SJWs but are completely unaware of where their thought actually stems.

If you can't make the distinction between the two, you probably shouldn't be having this discussion.

No I don't disagree that commies do this shit.

But saying "See this piece of art that has no meaning, it's Cultural Marxism" isn't proper usage.

yes it's actually stupid. the frankfurt school wasn't all bad.

by the way that guy in the vid looks jewish AS FUCK

He's a Cypriot.

sory brah not everyone has time to read up on every retardo philosopher. sory if the term offends u but it does its job

It's still ridiculous to propagate the idea that the Franks are behind SJWs.

a jewish one probably. he has that jewish thing of being beta and weirdly charismatic at the same time.

You'll have to ask him.

To my knowledge, Greeks and Jews look quite similar given that they're both Mediterranean.

Its not very hard to extend marx's theories of the accumulation of capital to race, ethnicity, culture etc.

Again, Privilege Theory has nothing to do with Marxism, and is actually quite anti-Marxist.

Genuine Marxists aren't the ones pushing privilege checking.

ok.

watching his video now, funny thing, weev actually does claim that general relativity is a jewish plot to subvert physics

Muke (the guy in the video) is actually studying physics in uni.

I don't fucking care about how many shadow terms you Commie Jew faggots shield yourself with.

You're all Cultural Marxists


DON'T CALL THEM LIBERALS -- THEY'RE COMMUNISTS

DON'T CALL THEM PROGRESSIVE -- THEY'RE REGRESSIVE

DON'T CALL THEM FASCISTS -- THEY'RE COMMUNISTS

DON'T CALL THEM GLOBALISTS -- THEY'RE COMMUNISTS


DON'T LET THEM HIDE WHAT


THEY


HAVE

DONE!

(200,000 MILLION DEATHS AND COUNTING)

>Be a fag
>No friends
>Mommy too soft
>Daddy too hard
>No identity
>Find identity in radical leftist politics
>Make shit video:
"blah blah I read texts from the Frankfurt school blah blah. No evidence but trust me because I read it."
>come to Sup Forums
>Posts video
You're still a faggot dude.

>le evil jew maymay

They're not communists. Not in the least bit. They're postmodern liberals who all voted for Bernie without giving thought as to how Keynesian social democracy is GOOD for capitalism.

Cultural Marxism is the Rights branding of what the Left themselves call "Critical Theory" to escape the fact that Marxism killed over 100million people and is forever tainted by their deaths.

It is the application of Marxism to culture, together with a Marxist interpretation of Freudian psychobabble to deconstruct every element of White society that could form a new NatSoc state and shoah them again. The impetus is the post-WW2 outburst of kverching about how to stop another shoah by dismantling White people.

Post-Structuralism is an off shoot of critical theory you dumb cunt [also we all know you made the video]

I like what this user said.

I didn't make the video. I'm not even British.

The Frankfurt School's methodology is a far cry from poststructuralism. The two barely have anything to do with each other.

We don't call rock music post-blues or "white people blues" but we could if we wanted.

>The two barely have anything to do with each other.

okay proxy fag ;)

What's Ron Paul doing there?

Prove your position, as you're the one making the claim.

>They're not communists. They're postmodern liberals who just want free gibs
Call it what you like, a spade is a spade.

Explain what makes them communists.

>They're not communists. Not in the least bit.


DON'T CALL THEM LIBERALS -- THEY'RE COMMUNISTS

DON'T CALL THEM PROGRESSIVE -- THEY'RE REGRESSIVE

DON'T CALL THEM FASCISTS -- THEY'RE COMMUNISTS

DON'T CALL THEM GLOBALISTS -- THEY'RE COMMUNISTS


DON'T LET THEM HIDE WHAT


THEY


HAVE

DONE!

web.csulb.edu/~ssayeghc/theory/poststructuralism.htm

How many links should I provide?

Are you an LAfag, a Detroitfag or a Phillyfag?

Explain how they're communists. Nothing about their praxis (or lack of) indicates that they're Marxists.

Your link doesn't mention the Frankfurt School at all.

>Cultural Marxism doesn't exist
>Says the fag with a "Welcome to the Party" poster right behind him

Hes right you know

How is frankfurt school related to cultural marxism?

it mentions critical theory though

The Frankfurt School is blamed for having created "Cultural Marxism" as a plot to bring communism to the West by fading away its culture, which isn't true.

Cultural Marxism is a buzzword that has no meaning in reality

Taken from www.dsausa.org(Democratic Socialist):
>Democratic Socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically to meet human needs, not to make profits for a few. We are a political and activist organization, not a party; through campus and community-based chapters DSA members use a variety of tactics, from legislative to direct action, to fight for reforms that empower working people.
Taken from www.cpusa.org(Communist):
>Our country, our people, and our environment are all being destroyed by the greed of a few obscenely wealthy capitalist groupings. Our world is threatened by the ravages of capitalist globalization, by relentless efforts to drive wages down to the lowest possible level, by attempts to destroy unions and all protections won by workers through struggle, by the spread of toxic wastes, and by imperialist war. We can’t and won’t let this continue.
We need radical solutions, real democracy, and real unity. We, the workers and our allies, need to take power from the hands of the wealthy few, their corporations, and their political operatives. We need real solutions to real problems, not the empty promises of politicians and corporate bosses. We need peace, justice, and equality. We need socialism.
A change in rhetoric; Same shit policies.

By nazis, in this context, he means modern far right groups.

Honestly lads, the general ideas of the frankfurt school are very interesting. It's worth checking out Horkheimer and Adorno. They have worthwhile things to say, even if you're not a marxist or commie (which I'm not). They're especially potent in regards to how capitalism can spread social degeneracy.

The CPUSA ceased being a Marxist party decades ago.

>Implying post-structuralism isn't the offspring of critical theory.

yeah I do think it's a boogey foogie toogie

and same

Marxism isn't the same as ontological materialism within the sciences if that's what you're referring to. And as the chap above said, academia in the social sciences is primarily post-structuralist, not marxist. There is a huge distinction.

Most of what the Nazis called "cultural bolshevism" was actually banned in the Soviet Union and was liberal/ had nothing to do with the marxists.

>tfw the communist party of America, using the ideology invented by Karl Marx, isn't Marxist according to the Frank-poster.

Bullshit.
I have a couple outspoken Marxists on my facebook, and all they do is go to protests with some banner saying "STOP WHITE SUPREMACY".

When Trump one, one of them literally said "we must fight white nationalism with socialism."

The same one also said he understood that he was a "privileged cisgendered white male."

youtube.com/watch?v=4fo5jLdJlgI

>Debunked
>Links a Youtube Video
>The person doing the video questionably qualifies as an adult

when Trump won*

I doubt Bill Whittle knows anything about the Franks.

All of philosophy is an off shoot of plato. Arguably. What's your point? Something can influence something, while the new idea can become a completely distinct from the first. I'm not sure why you all have such knee jerk reactions.

In so much as it's Marxism but with the oppressor & oppressed class groups substituted with identity based groups, it's real enough,

>praxis

DON'T CALL THEM LIBERALS -- THEY'RE COMMUNISTS

DON'T CALL THEM PROGRESSIVE -- THEY'RE REGRESSIVE

DON'T CALL THEM FASCISTS -- THEY'RE COMMUNISTS

DON'T CALL THEM GLOBALISTS -- THEY'RE COMMUNISTS

DON'T CALL THEM NEO-CONSERVATIVES -- THEY ARE COMMUNISTS


DON'T LET THEM HIDE WHAT


THEY


HAVE

DONE!

That's not a rebuttal faggot

Recognizing social conflict =/= Marxism

Watch Muke's video which I posted in the OP. He debunks Whittle.

Oh I though these cunts were on about the "marxism" part as in it not meaning fuckin up of culture.

A rose by any other name.

Call it whatever you want. Doesn't make it less real.

Recognizing social conflict and making up terms like "white privilege" and "racism" to make it oppressor(white christian male) vs. oppressed(everyone else) is definitely Marxism

People who rant about so-called "cultural marxism" as the decline of white western culture don't read books and don't know what they're talking about. cultural marxism refers to a separate phenomenon that is at the foundation of Cultural Studies as a discipline and comes mostly out of a bunch of British and French left-leaning thinkers revisiting the early works of Marx and forms of humanism (which, btw, is a concept at the foundation of the European Renaissance, cf. Pico della Mirandola, Petrarch, and Dante). Of these thinkers, probably Raymond Williams, the Welsh working-class socialist critic, is the most influential.

If Sup Forums would read some books for a change, we would all be so much better off!

If anyone wants to know more or what to read, just ask. I'll hang in this thread for a little while.

It's not real.

The Frankfurt School have nothing to do with SJWs.

Then why are the two so fond of one another? Since you're claiming to be an expert.

>privilege theory

SJWs hot in this thread.

And yes it can given the underlying pillar is the notion that 'we are all equal'

The frankfurt school doesn't do that. Why are you posting your opinion if you don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about?

any good titles from Horkheimer & Adorno to get started with?

yes i'm sure its all conjecture

SJWs don't even read the Frankfurt School. Again, they take from PoMos like Foucault, Derrida, Lacan, Irigaray, etc.

Dialectic of Enlightenment

Read Walter Benjamin's Theses on History first though.

That has nothing to do with the frankfurt school. At least read their fucking wiki page. A lot of the shit the frankfurt school were concerned with had nothing to do with social conflict between groups. And they were a 'school' very loosely. Most of them did their own thing, they werent weren't some unified group.

The Frankfurt School isn't around anymore

also see

I would personally start with a second hand source that examines their ideas.

Damn communism sounds nice in theory, but just go out into the real world and you will see that only 1 in a 1000 people are willing enough to work hard every day for pay or for free, and to share everything they have just because they're good.
I live in a fuck ass country and everyone I know is poor not because of low wages, but simply because they're stupid, even those with college degrees and they're extremely lazy, never pick up any work or if they do they quietly disappear to sit around and do jack shit.
Rich people are rich because they have earned it, they see others for what they are: retards and lazy incompetent aggressors.

Oh, and don't join the military. It's communism in there, lazy fucks and dickwad useless officers who don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

>The Frankfurt School isn't around anymore
No shit. Didn't imply they were.

mpcdot.com/forums/topic/8767-culturally-appropriating-the-frankfurt-school/

There are only three main sociological theories that people use. Structuralism, Critical and Symbolic Interaction. If you are saying that academia is post-structuralist then you are basically saying it's critical theory. Critical theory was pioneered by Karl Marx so therefore it's acceptable to call it Cultural-Marxism or even Social-Marxism. Doesn't really matter what it's called because it's obvious and it's cancer.

The belief that all cultures are equal, that practices and morals are relative and thus moral relativism garbage

Where did I mention the Frankfurt school ? I didn't, I said cultural Marxism exists in so much as it's a real world phenomenon, just take Marxism, swap class groups for identity groups, hey presto.

Marx didn't create Critical Theory. Adorno, Horkheimer, and Benjamin did, and none of them were orthodox Marxists. In fact, Benjamin was probably the most radical of the Franks as he openly admired Blanqui and Lenin, but his thought far more influenced by the Talmud and kabbalah than by Marx.

Adorno certainly didn't believe all cultures or people were equal. And I doubt any or the others did. He was an obvious Western elitist.