Why do stupid Americans think everything is a race based issue when it's all obviously class based...

Why do stupid Americans think everything is a race based issue when it's all obviously class based. Blacks don't commit crimes because they are black it's because a lot of them live in shit holes and are driven to criminal lifestyles because they don't see any other way out. It's the exact same here in Australia except instead of blacks it's bogans.
Thoughts?

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I don't care why they do it, all I see is that they are doing it at a disproportionate level compared to other races. Oh wait I guess it's my ancestors' fault and that their "crimes" committed 150+ years ago justify nigger crime today. Oh wait that's fucking stupid

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There are more whites in poverty, yet blacks still commit more crimes.

Including around 50 percent of rapes, murders and robbery.

The muh low class crap is blatantly false and pushed on us by white-guilt leftys

West Virginia is poor as fuck.
I don't see them shooting up their neighborhoods.
Yea, drugs are there, poverty, but nowhere near the violence.
Makes you think.

I never said it is white peoples fault, i'm trying to say this isn't a race issue. Why do you think blacks commit more crimes? Is it because they are black? Or because 70% of blacks grow up without dads.
In Aus we hardly have any blacks yet we have the same problems.

No Niggers commit more crime here are they are 0.05% of the population

proof?

Hispanics live in the same shit holes and cause a lot less crime. What do you say to that? I think it's because Hispanics have stronger family /Christian values which keep them from doing dumb shit.

It's low IQ.
They come from a part of Africa where the avg IQ is 60.
Look at the state Africa is in.
I guess that is whites fault too?
I don't see masses of people trying to immigrate to black countries...do you?
Everyone want to immigrate to white countries.
We just do a better job at civilization and law and order, and the maintenance of same.
Well, we do go through a "Fourth Turning" every 85 years or so, but still.....
Go live where blacks are a majority, tell us about it.

This may be the case, but then why are rich blacks not committing crimes then?
This is still mostly a class based issue imo.
Unless you are saying that all poor people are stupid.

I live in a mostly black (70% black) town in NC.
I do know some very based black men here, 3 to be exact.
But most blacks here are racist to the core, just waiting for "it" to happen.
They all vote Democrat (Socialism) and wonder why their lives don't improve.
Again I say, go live where the majority are black and get back to us in 2 or 3 yrs.

Durham?

because viewing it as a class issue takes more critical thought and doesn't feel as good

You're argument is that heredity is meaningless or that you can negate the effects of heredity by throwing enough culture at it. Blacks living in white society are literally adapted to flourish in other environments.

>a lot of them live in shit holes and are driven to criminal lifestyles because they don't see any other way out.

yes I agree that most Americas largest cities are shitholes....but it's because of all the fucking niggers who leech there. The BIG cities are where alllll the cushy jobs are at yet the best thing these chimps can come up with is slingin dope, chicken, or both at KFC.

it's a race issue. white people are dirt poor and peaceful

that bitch is virtue signalling all the way from Cary.

Fucking oath. This is why the left has failed. Instead of focussing on class issues, they've gone full identity politics.

>This is still mostly a class based issue imo.

why are blacks low class violent criminals in every single country on earth?
Jews and Asians are more successful in white countries than white people. White people aren't low class disproportionately violent criminals anywhere. If it was limited to the united states you'd have a point, but it's universal.

>This may be the case, but then why are rich blacks not committing crimes then?

every group/population is on a spectrum and there are outliers in both directions, trends and distribution matter.

Oh looh, it's a melbourne poof again

We give abo's everything they could ever need. We give them houses, business grants, free university, no school fees and to top it off, universal guilt trips from Sydney to Perth.

They don't and can't do anything still other than punch, kill, sniff and rob.

Our bogan's are actually victims of social warfare, and only became the bogans you're referring to after Australia started going to shit post 1970. Bogan's were always just normal fucking aussies.

Now you pussy wanker cunts driving your treasonous fucking toyotas around are telling us like it is? Fuck off cunt.

I live in Northern NSW where I actually see REAL abo's (not the 1/100th percent ones you in Sydney get) and they're fucking scum, but funny scum at least.

Poorest counties in the US are in Appalachia and along the Texas border.

And even adjusted per cap they have lower crime rates than Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, St Loius.

Really makes you contemplate...

>driven to criminal lifestyles because they don't see any other way out
No, they glorify criminality with their culture, it's not a last resort, it's what they aim for.

Look ar the crime statistics of Poland.
If crime is class based, Poland wouldn't make any sense.

It's not even that people of color are committing more crimes but they are being charged more often. Drug use among blacks and whites is practically the same, but a black person is 10 times more likely to get convicted.

What are prior bad acts and convictions for 500$ Alex?

hmm interesting...
So you think they do it too themselves?
It's just hard for me to grasp since in aus, nobody cares about race so everything is class based.
actually a lower class loser from geelong, maybe i'm just projecting my own issues aha.
its just i see the EXACT same problems here that americans see with blacks so idk.

A black person is 10 times more likely to have a prior record, white people are let off cause most of the time it's their first offense, and afterwards there usually isn't a second. Whereas niggers just can't stop committing crime

You must not have to deal with criminal blacks on the basis that some of us do. There are literally millions of blacks that will harm others and continue to feel that they are the victim. Others enjoy crime and will do crime until they are stopped, even if it maims or murders innocents. They can't be changed or reformed, and they breed like an invasive species

The strongest predictor of crime in the US is race, not poverty.

youtube.com/watch?v=bg4UW-3wGEM

One convincing argument Thomas Sowell made was that poor whites in Britain on welfare demonstrate many of the same behaviors that poor blacks on welfare do in the states. The point of his argument was about welfare being the problem, not slavery, but it seems applicable here. I think we are probably realistically looking at a combination of nature and nurture.

Because the internet came along to remind the masses about racism again right around when wounds were starting to heal. Now everyones got their head up their ass and sees racial tensions as some longstanding and unfixable problem that needs salt poured on it in the form of liberal agenda thats offensive to most people except for whatever race of person is it spewing it.

>lets try to start a class war and divide people based on income
sorry, marxists already tried this and it failed. the workers never revolted like you wanted because they realize they can work their way up to middle class and so on. you are very behind the times.

this is why cultural marxism tries to divide people based on race and gender and so on - because marxists realized that no one will ever listen to them based on economic arguments (they have none, other than "muh feelings")

i don't. i know white privilege was invented by the kikes to distract the shitskin hoards while they milk us all for shekels

We have an underclass that is disproportionately black due to many interlocking issues (jobs banks and such preying on families with little generational wealth due to the whole slavery/second class/discriminatory junk, government handouts creating compliance with bad living standards, jails continuing slavery or servitude by making poor men (who turn to crime due to poverty) work for pennies a day, an entire genre of music run by evil jewish execs that promote black gansgta idols so kids lacking dads imprint upon negative role models).

Dying rust belt towns getting no help from the government who pours its resources into coastal cities and foreign companies leading to more crime, drug abuse, stagnation and helplessness, etc., impacts poor whites on the other hand. It's so obvious that we have a serious class issue but it gets penned as race by the media and marxist schools because it's better to have working class whites and blacks at each other's throats because those below and among them are suffering than them teaming up and going after the true poison.

Great answer thanks for clearing some stuff up for me

No, it IS cuz they're black.

>Blacks don't commit crimes because they are black it's because a lot of them live in shit holes and are driven to criminal lifestyles because they don't see any other way out.

Blacks as a group have an IQ that is substantially (1 standard deviation) below whites. Asians have an IQ that is higher than whites, but not by as much difference.

Lower IQs are associated with a higher rate of criminal behavior. Thus, we would expect blacks to have a higher rate of crime, whites lower, and Asians lower still, based on IQ alone. And this matches the actual crime rate by race very well.

I know this sounds racist, but I am speaking of group averages and distribution here, and not individuals. There are more law-abiding black citizens than there are criminals, just as for all racial groups. And yet the group IQ differences predict the group crime rate differences pretty well.

gaslighting at its finest. its white peoples fault that blacks let their neighborhoods decay to shit. blacks who live in the economic centers of the nation and have hardly any white people in their communities. yet they cant paint their houses or pick up garbage off the street.

face it, pagan blacks just arent capable of creating a nice community for themselves

Race based
Class based

Same authoritarian communism faggotry metricuck

IQ is also negatively correlated with social class.

So for your numbers to have any validity, you'd need to control for the class differences. Has this been done?

I do have the correct answer

It's because it's much easier on their eyes to condemn racism instead of classism; because they know classism is actually real and they are part of it.

That's the way the world works, countries and people are divided by tiers like it or not, and they are probably in the very top.

Nice try Jerome

What your saying is if you put a black, white and asian person through the exact same living conditions, education etc that the asian will be genetically smarter and the black will be genetically dumber.
I don't personally believe that, I think asians have a culture based around studying very hard, which is why they have a higher IQ on average.

I feel like I got OP's question slightly wrong but whatever, I like my point

No you got my point, I think everyone else is taking my question as 'why are niggers bad'

>So for your numbers to have any validity, you'd need to control for the class differences. Has this been done?

Good question, and yes it has.

You're right that SES and IQ are correlated to some extent. But if you control for SES, IQ differences still explain quite a lot, whereas if you control for IQ, SES doesn't. I.e., IQ is a better predictor than SES (or parent's SES).]

>conveniently ignore black millionaires who commit crime

Um....identity politics maybe?

Wrong, blacks are first in line for job hires, college application, free college tuition, EBT, welfare, etc... All because the are a "minority" and diversity hire.

Listen to Chapter Jackson:

youtu.be/xLTTX35LNJo

This study shows a strong correlation between race and crime even when controlling for economic factors, although it doesn't mention IQ. (It does mention single parenthood as the strongest predictor). Interesting read overall:
randomcriticalanalysis.wordpress.com/2015/11/16/racial-differences-in-homicide-rates-are-poorly-explained-by-economics/

so their iq naturally puts them in a lower class but we should have to control for that and ignore that iq is the main predictor. ok bong

It's a culture issue that blacks have conflated/made themselves a race issue, largely or in my opinion entirely due to social engineering from the Democratic Party in 50's and onward.

The most anti-black people in American society are black. Like all toxic cultures, nigger culture is dogmatically self reinforcing. Anyone who tries to improve their lives are labeled traitors and "not real blacks". It's why you don't see large groups of decent black folk, only individuals who have crawled out of the culture. It's like a bucket of crabs. When one tries to leave, they all drag him back down or at least try too.

Without democrats, black IQ in America would be higher, crime rate lower and marriage rate stabilized. Really the marriage rate is what would cause the other two to improve, because normal nonrandom mating would occur like it did with every other group who immigrated here in the early 1800's with toilet tier IQ.

Race, sex, and age are more important factors in crime rates than class.

Go to a nigger area and offer them jobs. They're going to tell you to go fuck yourself.
If you're going to play that card, then everyone has a reason for everything they do, hell, why the fuck even have prisons then, cuck mentality at it's finest.

>muh Hispanic wholesomeness
>muh warped Catholicism
Nice try Pablo, Mexico is on fire and they're running here just like niggers wanting whitey to fix their problems and then kick them out. Fuck that, ICE 'em

cant tell you how many of my white friends became homeless and grew up in poverty and none of them committed crimes or murders. what a load of bullshit.

This is just objectively incorrect. When you compare rates of violent crime between blacks and whites of the same economic standing, the blacks still commit horrendously disproportionate numbers of crimes.

thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/race-poverty-and-crime/

>asians have a culture based around studying very hard
where did this culture come from? perhaps from a genetic predisposition to work/study/think about things?
and blacks on the other end predisposed to not really do that?

>This may be the case, but then why are rich blacks not committing crimes then?

Ahem....

"blacks don't commit crimes because they are black"

Incorrect.

Saged.

Because it's really a cultural thing.

American black culture is repugnant and must be stamped out. Desperate nignogs try to prevent this by throwing out accusations of Uncle Toms and Race Traitors.. when really it's just intelligent people trying to pull themselves up out of the cultural dung pile they've come from.

I don't like people who say everything is class based despite the fact that I partially agree

because they are without exception upper middle class college communist kids who actually hate the white poor and never hesitated to make fun of the poor kid in school

Funnily enough i'm a working class liberal.
I just think the core of these issues are class based,
race, sex, culture etc obviously plays a part though.

>'s the exact same here in Australia except instead of blacks it's blacks and Lebs.
FTFY