Nazi vs Soviet

All memes aside who really was the worst of the two?

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>memes

Soviets were horrible all around.
Nazis had strong principles but weak leadership.

Soviets were by far the worse of the two.

>one tried to get rid of Jews
>one literally was Jews

You tell me.

without a doubt the soviets

The soviets massacred their own people. The Nazis bettered their own people until (((they))) shut it down.

ask yourself this question:

better live in hitlers nazi germany?
or better live in stalin's USSR?

should be a obvious choice

Nazis just wanted a pure ethnostate germany and ruled off of pride and nationalism

Soviets just kept purging their own people until the only reason nobody rebeled was out of fear from the state

I wold die in both situations
t. Capitalist jew

Soviets were worse because they became the new oppressors that they rose up against in the beginning.
Stalin and his cabinet were the rich ones who allowed their population to starve to death; and if they weren't starving, they were gulaged for questioning the government.
Also NS Germany didn't have weak leaders, the country and the ideology was crushed by war.

Nazis. They were about nothing but hate.
Soviets were about equality and pride in ones country.

I really think this question was solved in 1945.

Soviets were around for longer so they're the worst.

The Nazis were much better than the Communists; the Allies should have fought with them to destroy leftism.

Zerg rush ftw!

So nazis didn't pure "their own people"?
They even purged people from their own party frequently.

Bear in mind that being "their own people" is subject to arbitrary change based on a revolving set of principles that can be swapped out for something else at any second.

Hitler even joked about the nationalization of industry. The Communists want everything nationalized and owned by the government, but Hitler didn't have to do that (other than the train tracks) because he nationalized the people. That was until shit started hitting that fan that is. When the war got bigger, everything got nationalized for the war effort.

commies are 10x worse, but nazis only cared about germans NOT europeans
>haha de jews are responsible for everything!!!11

None of them

Being a NatSoc stalinist is the ultimate redpill

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>"their own people" is subject to arbitrary change based on a revolving set of principles that can be swapped out for something else at any second.
Not really. It was about Germany being for the Germans. As long as you were ethnically German you were fine.

Checked

>They were about nothing but hate.
Soviets were about equality and pride in ones country.

Wut

Germans are the ultimate europeans. It's no wonder the NatSocs cared more about them.

Also, all germanics in the Reich were privileged. They even wanted to settle some of them in the east

>Soviets were about equality and pride in ones country.
I'm sure all those starving Ruskies living in hovels felt equal to their leaders who went to sleep in their warm beds at night with full stomachs. Funny how it turned out like that?

That's why they persecuted Christians.

Nazis would fail into a totalitarian oligarchy in the long run due nature of bureaucracies and their impossibly large influence of the state. However in the short run they were incredibly efficient with strong leadership and discipline. Plus the well train organization due competition in ranks and business prior to 1933.

Soviets were however. Hampered in efficiency due cases of equal and unequal concentration of wealth and equipment. Their war on ALL bourgeoisie leading to purges in every Soviet thus far. USSR was mildly successful since Stalin had the foresight not to purge their military engineers and industrial concerns.

Fascism was involved and restricted government controlled economies whilst Communism usually involved leveling the economy then building from the ground up.

National Socialists counter communists. Communists are bad, National Socialists are good. Simple stuff, shill.

you some bronze shitter who can't beat a zerg rush?

Soviets.

At least Nazis believe in the idea of a state.

No difference. Both were socialists that hated their own people, put them through deficit, breadlines, slavery etc.

Soviets killed more people, so if that's your metric for "worst", then I suppose they win. Communism's also the shittiest, Jew-ridden belief system known to man outside of Judaism.

The Nazis were ideologically correct with the whole Germania concept, but the Bolshevik hordes from the East proved too great a threat for them to hold off.

The nazis wanted to wipe out all the jews from europe because of this

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Revolution
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Civil_War
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Civil_War
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Civil_War
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

The germans were actually the ''good guys''

>All memes aside who really was the worst of the two?
Capitalism is the worst of the two.

>All memes aside
>States a meme
Good job OP.

Even though the Nazis were pretty damn bad, the Soviets were much much worse. They killed far more people than Germany.

Nazism is a worse ideology (ethically speaking) but communism had longer and more countries to rack up a body count.

What made it worse?

>responding to a leaf

Nazis were 15 years or terror and craziness. Fucking communists destroyed HALF OF THE WORLDJust look Germany today and any ex-USSSR country and you have the answer.with their stupid ideology.

Bad feelings

>>haha de jews are responsible for everything!!!11
>Maybe if I type like a fucking retard then I can trivialise my opponents argument so I don't need to refute it!
Absolutely fucking gas yourself back to the stoneage.

Nazi ideology is built around removing people based on their inherent characteristics, where communism collaterally kills people based mostly on their politics.

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>implying

The National Socialists were totally crazy by taking on the International Bankers and bringing prosperity to their Country. Total terror LOL

P.S. The Holocaust was a hoax. Labor camps with about 250K Jews dying of typhus and starvation. Look into why denying the holocaust is illegal in 16 Countries. The truth fears no investigation.

fucking chek em

thanks to Hitler, a Jewish puppet, planted as an opposition was the sole reason they have the state of israel.

literally 10D chess

I didn't realize who I was replying to.
National Socialism unites the left and the right in the nation as one race. You can't change your race whenever you like it so it will only benefit you to join the rest. Plus, the state exists to serve the people. If you work and keep the state going the state give back to you by allowing security, and social benefits.

When it comes to removing people It wasn't as much of a problem for anyone else because minorities back then were minuscule and they had their own nations to go back to. Except for the Jews of course. Hitler wanted to get rid of them because of how they used the power they gained to subvert and destroy the nation. He had plans to send them to Madagascar and he sent 60,000 of them to Palestine with the Haavara agreement. This pissed the Arabs off though.

What? Palestine was British territory. Churchill made a deal that if the U.S gets dragged into the war jews would get the British territory.

and why did they get it ?

communism is the worse of the two because it cloaks its ultimate goal of enslavement and decimation of the host population. The extremism of Nazi Germany was really only a defensive measure in light of the 60 mill the jews killed right next door. There really wasnt an alternative to not killing them either. They were being evil and got slaughtered, Hitler was 100% in the right for throwing them in camps and killing them.

Muh holocaust!

exactly.

This. And then you have (((Marx))) & (((Lenin))).

Communism because Communist hate everyone who isn't communist, and nazis hate only certain groups.
Communism killed more people too.

P.S.A : Nazi Germany was national socialism, not Fascism contrary to normie belief

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communism by far

94 million killed

JUST...

no

So what are the Nazi's and Jews now secret friends?

Wtf is this bullshit.

Nat Socialism is sustainable and can work but its got a bad rap because of Hitler.

Communism is fundamentally unsustainable long term no matter how hard you try.

Both suppress individual freedom.

Nazis were way worse.

They had power for less than a decade in that time they caused WWII with their international aggression the single biggest tragedy in human history. They were clearly the most destructive ideology.

Soviets were in power for over 60 years in which time domestically they did a lot harm however just like the Nazi's they did good too. Industrialised Russia, made over 80% of the population literate etc.

in one year the soviets intentionally starved 7 to 10 million Ukrainians.

Kek has indeed returned

I can feel it.

The Holodomor was truly one of the darkest parts of the soviet regime.

Ukraine was part of the soviet union though and the soviets plan to starve the population was due to Ukraine wanting more national autonomy.

20 million Russians died as a result of WWII.

>what is the night of long knives
Come on, it's fun larping and shit but nazis were not the good guys. They don't deserve the devilification they got afterwards in the Machiavel by church fashion and deserve recognition for thr great things they accomplished like napoléon or the roman empire but their system was flawed, full of we wuz aryanz bullshit. They were not as bad as portrayed, they deserve more credit but at the end of the day it still was a shitty authoritarian utopist ideology, and 99% of the neets and slavshits who larp here would have been purged.

who the fuck do you think was sending Russian soldiers into the German meat grinders? That's how Russia wins wars.

The Nazi's created the need for Russia to go to war by invading them in the first place

Step away from your ideology for one second. Read my original comment it still stands. The Nazi's aggression bought the whole Europe to it's knees in less than 10 years of being in power. An estimated 60 million people dead.

What aggression? They were the first Country to successfully take on the International Bankers and thrive. The Jews got England and France to declare war on Germany, not the other way around.

Islam and the jews.

Sup Forums

>Master race the winners are the best, I'm so alpha fuck the weaklings.

>Russians defeat the Nazis.

They are so mean.

p u r e i d e o l o g y

didnt something collapse in 1989 that make your entire exercise fruitless

youtube.com/watch?v=pnMl8Iuijsg

Nazis cared about the German ppl. Commies killed everyone. And I say this as a communist

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i'm not an ideology you fucking ass hat i'm just making the case that communist were more fucked than the nazis.

Communists

Their philosophy was built on destruction not creation

It would probably depend on where and when. Ukraine in the early 1930s or a labor colony in Siberia would be terrible, but so would the camps in Germany.

what made you become a communist?

Commies are by far the worse of the two.

>implying da joos did all that

Fuck commies. They didn't care about their people, they were just pissed some people had more wealth than others in their societies. What Hitler did, he always said he did it for the German people.

Come fight for your people, tradition, history, culture.

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Most of them were purged.

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goodness gracious those numbers

Soviets were inherently expansionist. Nazies were situationally expansionists.

>They even purged people from their own party frequently.

To be fair (and somewhat ironically), part of the reasoning of the "night of long knives" was because some elements in the party were too violent and had to be gotten rid of.

>ultimate Europeans
May I remind you of the Anglosphere?

The soviets obviously.

The underlying problem is that soviet brutality will never be as widely disseminated and when it is it is sugar coated. This is for 2 reasons.

The practical reason is that they won and the nazis lost.

The philosophical reason is that their ideas sound nice to academics because they have a boner for equality.

>This is Sup Forums these days, asking whether the national socialist Germany was better than communist Soviet Union.

Wow, not even kidding, this board's quality has dramatically plummeted. What happened? After two years of not lurking I came to check out and it's shit. Fucking civic nationalist Sup Forums lmao

How is this a debate? Pro National Socialism vs Communism. The Swastika is an ancient symbol for life and prosperity. I guess everyone enjoys being a free slave

Both were invented by Jews, and both lead to Hades.

The real question is who was the best

>some elements in the party were too violent and had to be gotten rid of

Are you saying that faggots are unstable?

KEK HAS SPOKEN

Right about the Soviets. Wrong about the Nazis.

Yep, this makes it official. Pol is fucking shit now. Listen up Kikes and commies, go back to fucking facebook where you belong. Better yet, make the world a better place and put your head in an oven. The only thing Hitler did wrong was stand up for his own people. If you don't know at least that much about that chapter of history, you're a fucking a dyke nigger piece of shit, and you should unironically kill yourself...

All memes aside.

They're functionally the same. Any ideology that allows liquidating populations of people will turn out like they did.

Germany fought the Jew!