Are there any ex-liberals/leftists here?

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I was a borderline-liberal a few years ago, and I still consider myself to be one, but this social justice bullshit has changed so much in literally three or four years that I'm considered a conservative now just because I hate Muslims and like guns.

i was a leftist prior to finding God. I look back on those years as wasted.

Almost everyone here was once a leftie. It's not possible to be an intelligent right winger without being a leftist when younger.

Yes.

Social justice and the regressive left trying to guilt me into hating myself for being a white cis male was what pushed me over the edge.

this as well as the 2016 election opening my eyes to how corrupt the media/dems are. even with all the problems with the trump admin, i still would not vote for hillary if i had to do it over.

only until i read a book

I was an edgy """anarchist""" into punk music until like 2012. Mostly just had leftist opinions except for latent racism against blacks through personal experience

I was already on Sup Forums at that time since I was a Sup Forumstard since like 07 so the shift came naturally as I got older

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Yep, used to be liberal, now I am a democratic socialist.

Friendly reminder that this board is over 50% ex liberal.

Thats why we hate and know how to troll leftists so well.

A lot of people here are pissed because they were indoctrinated. If you're young on the surface being liberal seems smart, virtuous, and open, but if you begin to dig below the surface you realize its a fucking cancer. Thats its all lies.

I voted for Obama in 2012

I was your average liberal 1 year ago but it was when merkel opened the doors that i began to question what this was About And i came to the qonclusion that they were importing massive hords of Niggers And sandniggers to invade europe but i geuss i spent top much time here since i now fully agree with Sup Forums's ideals

I think most of us are.

I was a liberal for around 2 years before that I was conservative and now I'm a white nationalist.

Tho i dont agree with every one of your ideals

I voted for Nader, Nobody, Obama, Obama . I was wrong

Unless you received counterindoctrination from your family or church when you were young, you're probably an ex-liberal. Since that's the currently dominant mainstream propaganda.

Why would you post a pic of based krugman?

Your average altruistic hippy leftist --> ???? --> fascism

Funny how it goes.

I feel like most people were liberal, and it was something they grew out of.

There's a timeless quip passed on generation to generation in French and English literature, paraphrased for the times:

"A man who's not a leftist at 15 might be heartless.
A man who's a leftist after 30 might be mindless."

>e.g. John Adams had expressed a similar idea well before Guizot entered adulthood. Thomas Jefferson preserved this quip, writing in a 1799 journal that Adams had said: “A boy of 15 who is not a democrat is good for nothing, and he is no better who is a democrat at 20.”

However, this is changing fast. The internet is spreading knowledge faster than ever. Kek is piercing hearts with truth. The younger generation is waking up more quickly than ever, breaking free of indoctrination. They can bear witness to the lies and mass retardation of cultural Marxists.

Nobody does, only an idiot would agree with the details of some trivial subject. What sets us apart, whether we're real - ethnic - nationalists or civic 'nationalists', is that the discourse is only found in, and between, our camps.

Conservatives and leftists do not discuss matters of life and death. Sure, conservatives may discuss immigration but they will not mention the main reason behind immigration - the Jew. As if a highly intelligent race with immense power, and with almost complete control over Congress, is irrelevant. They have to make up bullshit in order to protect the Jews from any well-deserved scrutiny.

I was a total shitlib, loved Obama and watched Jon Liebowitz, Colbert, et al. Started waking up when a friend introduced me to Sup Forums a couple years ago. It was around the time of Ferguson and the early days of the migrant invasion of Europe. Those two events really woke me up to the dangers our people face. I also woke up to the fact that no matter how much I cucked for them that blacks and muslims would nonetheless view me as their enemy, I realized should choose sides wisely.

Yep. Been a leftist for a long time. Supported Bernie and saw what the DNC did, came here and started taking the ideas espoused here seriously. Am now staunchly conservative, both socially and financially. I was a fucking idiot.

>finding God

>2008: Obama
>2012: Stein
>2016: Trump

If anything I became more leftist when I saw what idiots infest this place

Yep. Raised by socialists.Dad played "You Fascists are Bound to Lose" by billy Bragg for us as kids on the regular. Brother is antifa. Whole family supports him. Haven't "come out" as a conservative yet.

I feel like I could write about this for a whole day. I am ashamed of who I was. The only upside to being that way is that it made me realize that Leftists are every bit as classist and elitist as the people they rail against.

Paraphrased? More like pulled out of your arse.

All the internet has done is make control of information impossible. Bad news for the fearmongers.

Based Belgium.

Yes. Supported Sanders until he got cheated by his own party. Disillusioned, I gravitated towards Trump out of curiosity, but I still had reservations since I was still a flaming liberal. I then started listening to talk radio where Bernie supporters were schooled every time because collectivism is not compatible with free market society and their arguments fell flat....to my dismay because I liked free shit. I then got more depressed until I read Milton Freedman "Capitalism and Freedom" where I learned rational reason on why Big Government is inefficient and that it logically infringes on individual liberty.

I then felt even more estranged by constant SJW nonsense inextricably tied to left-wing/liberal ideology. They accuse everything and everyone as racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic, all in the righteous name of rooting out perceived evil in society....well fuck that....there's no way I can call my self a liberal anymore. So I then retreated to the fringes where I stumbled upon The_Donald and Sup Forums during the General Election where I got eternally red-pilled to the point where I get so ashamed to think I vocally advocated for that socialist Bernie.

So I had to vote against Hillary who optimized everything I hate about career politicians. Unlike Trump who is beholden to no one, Hillary gained her wealth from selling political favors through her foundation.

Leftists and SJWs are a poison to society that claim injustice and intolerance are rampant in modern society, when in fact there is no evidence of such things at the magnitude they are describing. Democrats lunge to capitalize and harvest all these grievances for political gain. They are smart, cohesive, and the best at framing public perception. August 2016 marks the inflection point where I left the Left.

I turned a bit earlier, but I look back on who I used to be and cringe. I was an adult loser who lived with his parents. Now I'm climbing the ladder at work, started lifting, have an apartment and a girlfriend. Never been happier. Debating on Sup Forums broke down who I was, my commitment to the truth destroyed the indoctrination. And I was set free. Sup Forums is a place you come to be reborn.

Bay Area, Californian here. The check your privilege and she gender bullshit pushed me away from the left. I even voted for Obama in 08. I voted Trump most recently with no regrets. I'm fucking Mexican too wrap your head around that.

A couple years from now people will be embarrassed they voted for Trump and they'll have conversion stories to completely different ideologies.

I voted Liberal up until Trump for various reasons. I don't know if that makes me a Liberal or not.

I only agree with about half of either party's platform.

I like businesses and hate social welfare.
I like smaller government and less regulation.
But I wish the GOP would shut the fuck up about abortion and stop shilling for religion.

I voted for Gore and Kerry not because I felt particularly that they were great and the Deomocratic party had good ideas, but because I figured anything would be better than having a retarded president who was only considered due to the political power of his father. I maintain that I was absolutely correct.

After Bush was done ruining America I voted unironically for Obama, mostly because McCain chose a literal retard for vice-president in the most cringe-inducing attempt to steal angry feminist votes after Hillary lost the primary. Also Obama promised some interesting things.

Then Obama's terms were pretty garbage and he did only one of the things he promised to do and actually actively expanded NSA surveillance and extended the Patriot Act and aggressively prosecuted whistleblowers (the opposite of what he promised to do for each issue). Degeneracy kicked into high gear with Liberals pretending that it was okay and that if you opposed it you were cancer, and the media stopped even pretending to be nonbiased.

Trump burned all the GOP insiders alive, sparing the world from Bush 3: the lame son. I've always hated Hillary Clinton and so him defeating her, despite all the media pomp, was a definitely highlight.

I think the increased degeneracy of the Liberal agenda has been pushing me further and further to the right.

The refugees and migrants make me ill.
I honestly wouldn't care if they started executing illegals caught in the USA without a trial.
Trannies are mentally ill.
Children should not be subjected to sex changes.
Nigger culture continues to ruin the African American community.

Used to be a socialist and a massive degenerate

Trump isn't a racial candidate at all, he's only concerned with the strength of the National identity.

Not a single racial demographic voted less for him then Romney. He even won more Muslims. The press completely misfired.

those look like some tasty frankfurters

You do realize even ignoring the fact Bernies a Jew he's a massive fuck up right ?
T Vermonter

Yep. Grew up in a white heavily liberal home, union father, feminist mother who worked for government. Indoctrinated from young age to view every race as equal and whitew held minorities back for centuries, rich whites were evil and keeping everyone poor etc. Even voted for Kerry in my first legal age election. Got red pilled via life experience when I worked at a heavily nigger employed warehouse in my early 20s. I couldnt believe how fucking retarded every single one was. The most basix critical thinking was impossible for them. I still agree with some liberal things like protecting the environment and keeping abortion legal ( lowers nigger birth rates) and keeping wall street regulated but my hatred for minorities and fearing that our future as a white majority is doomed assures I vote for whichever candidate is more strict on immigration.

Yes, all my life, until less than a year ago.

The liberal hypocrisy at this point is so flagrant, this Russia hysteria, like no one remembers how it started, as an out for Killery during the debates, when anyone asked about her emails.

There's gotta be other normies who started digging since the election and found the red pill.

The quip has a long history of use and variations. Are you a leftist? Does it trigger you?

used to be a liberal in my teenage years, quickly transitioned into national socialism when it became obvious my people are going extinct

ex leftist here

Here's my voting record:
Gore
Kerry
Obama
Paul (write-in)
Trump

no such thing as a based jew

this guy is a top-tier faggot. Watch the video on youtube of Oreilly crushing him while he sits there looking like a total beta cuck.

Honestly I think a lot of people were fooled into thinking they were leftists because Bush was so shit.

I was pro Obama in 08 and around 2010 I started hating him and stopped being a liberal about a year later, this election was my first time voting and I voted Trump even though I though he was too far left.

I'm much less of a degenerate now, i took the 5 piercings out of my face and phased out graphic tees, I watch about 10x less TV and movies now because muh indoctrination so I've got enough freetime to take up hobbies and learn instruments and such.

Still an atheist but I wish more people were Christian even though I probably never will be.

>euphoric

Michael Savage

I am. Your going to laugh at what turned me. Gun Control. I'm 49. I spent most of my life as a staunch Democrat. I didn't like the religious right and their proclivity for censorship. I grew up in the South, raised by working class parents who were both Blue Dog Democrats. Dad was a reformed segregationist.and I grew up in a mixed race working class neighborhood. Joined the Army in the late 1990's out of high school, got out of the military and went to work in manufacturing, which I've been in for all of my adult life. I've held a total of three jobs as of this year, not counting the military, none less than five years. I didn't care much about firearms back when the 94 Assault weapons Ban was passed and actually thought the restrictions were reasonable as long as they didn't come for my deer rifle. The Democrats realized that gun control was a loosing proposition around 2000 and mostly shut up about it. More and more states passed laws allowing some sort of concealed carry. The 94 AWB sunsetted with a whimper and the AR15, the gun the AWB was meant to specifically ban, became the most popular rifle in America. Round about 2006 some friends got me into competitive shooting. I dove in hard. I went from a Pre ban Mini 14 (that i felt sort of guilty about owning) and an old ruger .357 magnum single action revolver to a couple dozen guns which all had a purpouse. Three gun, IDPA, .22 silhouette, .22 three position target shooting, I was involved in several gun sperts and was having a blast. Fast forward to 2012. Sandy Hook. See, the thing is, I'm a nerd. A big hairy nerd that loves the outdoors, but a mildly autistic nerd nonetheless. So when I got into shooting, I devoured everything gun related. Technical specifications, the law, history, everything to do with firearms. And the things that Obama and the democrats were saying in the wake of sandy Hook weren't true.
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tl;dr

I'm left wing cause my brain still works

Fuck oath cunt. If you can lay off the petrol it will continue to work for a very long time still.

I am the opposite.

Went full 1488 at 13.
Became a communist at 23.

I hear you. Disarming The People is a leading wedge issue. It forces libertarian-rooted leftists (who are smart enough to understand the value of a decentralized, armed society) to break free from democrats. What comes with that is learning more about different sides more objectively over time, and they tend to start picking up the right as the lesser of evils so to say. Because once a right is gone, it can be gone for good short of another revolution.

Advice: don't use the propaganda term of the enemy. "Gun control." The only the term "gun control" should be used is describing a good shot.

I think you and I would get along well.

Either the President of the United states was woefully misinformed, or he, and his surrogates, were lying with malice aforethought. And Obama is not stupid, whatever else he may be. He knew what he was saying about the guns and the laws surrounding them was not true, but he said it anyway, to push his political agenda. I've voted Democrat in every presidential election since 1988. I knew the republicans lied about things. I knew they were perfectly willing to dismiss facts for their own political gains. But I guess I naively thought the Democrats acted out of good will. that even when wrong, they had the best of intentions. I don't even believe that anymore. When Obama began openly race baiting, when people endorsing Hillary openly called for the extinction of white men, of which I am one, I knew the Democratic party and the Left were acting with malice aforethought and did not have my best interests at heart. So I'll take my chances with the Republicans. To any Leftists, democrats or paid shills reading this, remember, this is on you. You drove me, and others like me, away with identity politics. Call me a racist. I'm fine with that. Because I am fresh the fuck out of white guilt, and you can go hang.

Obama lied about guns exposing that the left was lying about everything else, and I no longer trust the left about anything.

>A lot of people here are pissed because they were indoctrinated.
Describes me to a T.

>Now I'm climbing the ladder at work, started lifting, have an apartment and a girlfriend. Never been happier. Debating on Sup Forums broke down who I was, my commitment to the truth destroyed the indoctrination. And I was set free. Sup Forums is a place you come to be reborn

It actually bothers me to realize that I've made many personal strides simply because I started reading this board.

(18)
>be liberal democrat

>go to college
>become far-left democrat

(21)
>watch manufacturing consent
>become antiglobalist far-left democrat

(21-23)
>libya and syria happen
>leave democratic party
>become antiglobalist far-left independent

(24)
>read sowell
>become antiglobalist libertarian centrist

(25-26)
>develop newed fascination with transatlantic accent
>watch lots of firing line on youtube
>somehow drift from that to listening to stefan molyneux
>redpills everywhere
>become antiglobalist libertarian conservative

(26-27)
>support trump for practical reasons, but still consider myself a conservative libertarian

Trump got 30% of the Hispanic vote, so you're not alone.

i thought i was a liberal because i misunderstood the term at the time. i thought it was supposed to describe someone who subscribes to classical liberalism, not progressivism. needless to say, once i realized who my "allies" were, i ditched the left entirely. i still hold many classical liberal beliefs, but i think that an authoritarian state is at least a necessary transitional phase before we can reach that liberal utopia. that is to say, gas the kikes, race war now.

Fair enough. I am amused (now) that Hillary was making noises back in early in the primaries about instituting Australian style gun laws. They were so sure they were going to take back the House and Senate and have her in the White House that they were already planning to go full confiscation. Glad it never came to that. Civil Wars are damned unpleasant.

most of le donald antisjw 20 somethings are former liberals, they were all cheering for king nigger in 08 desu

Hillary is largely responsible for pushing the ban of AR-15s and causing the whole idiotic "assualt" term as propaganda in the 90s. She made that one of her big "first lady causes" in the name of "stopping gun violence". Later expired under Bush. Meanwhile, the Clintons pushed hardcore punishments against drug offenders, which skyrocketed the prison population -> fatherless homes -> fucking up black (and some white) inner city communities even more than they were fucked.

Did you not catch Chelsea crowing that Scalia dying meant full gun control was possible?

I've never even held a gun and I understand gun crime is a psychological issue rather than a gun problem. It's funny that leftists want every drug under the Sun legalized but guns banned...

three strikes policy was fucked, but welfare was the real culprit for fatherless homes -- black and white fatherless homes have skyrocketed over the decades as a result.

sup

>ex-liberals/leftists
Why do you fatties keep lumping these two DIFFERENT things together?

I leaned more towards left with a healthy skepticism. The past four years have ripped the blinders off my eyes.

I don't know how anyone who grew up reading shit like Chomsky could look around now and not quickly conclude that the SJW left is a tool of established economic interests. Have they watched Target ads? "Buy one get one free jeans and support transgendered mixed race teens!" Fucking Northrop Grumman, a military industrial powerhouse, is 100% pro-diversity. When the people who build missiles are parroting your ideology, your ideology is a tool of oppression. Face it fuckers.

Still a leftist eh more closer to a RADical centrist.

Don't do it, they'll disown you because they're tolerant and you're not.

Don't tell your family, drop in little redpills.

Yeah. It's both hitting at once that made the toxic stew. Combine these factors: drug war + welfare encouraging even more births + genetic and cultural intelligence differences, and you get the bulk of what creates violence and gangs. Welfare works for the percentage of honest people in transitions vs. going homeless. But for the "welfare queens" it's a goddamn vicious cycle that fucks everything up without controls on it (idiots buy stupid shit and have bad lifestyles, further inflicting those conditions on the malleable infant brains of their kids).

yep, until i found pol and overdosed on redpills.

I have to hide as a democrat who believes in the 2nd and other moderate libertarian beliefs around certain friends. I suggest you do similar. Its not worth losing relationships over. Just minimize political talk or walk away / be openly disinterested.

>inb4 make new friends
I'm 28. I'm in some of these people's weddings this year. I don't need to make enemies out of life-long friends because they are bluepilled. Its much easier to avoid talking politics and then pretend to be a different flavor of liberal when pressed.

You're alright, lad.

Ex-liberal. I fell for the your body, your choice schtick hard. Took a few years but I gave some thought to killing innocent babies in the womb...but at the same time advocating against the death penalty for actual criminals.

saving innocent babies and killing actual murderers seemed like the way to go.

This makes me feel all wArm and fuzzy

100%

Yep. Trump started the fire and then pol turned me natsoc/ancap.

Krugman was my economic prophet. I used to read him on economics.

But he is using his bully pulpit to push social-left crap, so no more.

>democrat
Go down rabbit holes here until you shed that syndrome. After you reach 30+ you're likely to see high value in being yourself and not suffering fools.

I've always been repub, even though I was gay. I only recently actually justified my stance based on economics.

Krugman should be praising Bannon as a visionary, but politics come before economics.

Yeah in should just do everything I can do disinvite myself from being included in the weddings of my childhood friends because I can't stop blabbering about MUH JOOOS and just go with the flow.

Neck yourself.

Whoa bud, clib or neolib? Reagen clib hasn't been called liberal for a long time.

this.
Fucking SJW cunts. Then the white hate started being publicly accepted while being condoned by the so called anti racists and I was officially done.

used to be super far leftist cuz i'm a fag and i just thought that's what i was supposed to do but then i actually researched shit and realized conservatism just makes way more sense

If you're ideology ever changes this drastically you're basically an idiot that is meant to be lead around so you should be supportive of a dictatorship

Me, sort of. I want a strong social safety net but only for the right kind of people.

I was a straight Democrat.
I abandoned the party in 2004-ish.
Now I'm horrified that I had anything to do with the loons.
I regard them as traitors at this point.

You have a bad attitude. Neck myself for telling you the truth? Not surprised. You'll see in a few years.

I was.

Then I discovered Austrian economics and the concepts of voluntaryism and non-coercion central to libertarian thinking.


Not everyone on Sup Forums is 'alt right' or pro-Trump.

lots of us just hate the Regressive Left more.

If you go to Baltimore or Detroit or Oakland or most big cities and are mugged or shot - most likely its by a 'liberal' Democrat.

And its not the 'alt right' going to Leftist events to try to stop their political speech via violence...

whichever is easier to meme

Obama was still a better choice than jew puppet Romney. Obama chilled out on the jew wars his 2nd term, he didn't bomb Syria, didn't go to war with Russia over Crimea.