How is having a GUN a RIGHT but HEALTHCARE is a PRIVILEGE???

How is having a GUN a RIGHT but HEALTHCARE is a PRIVILEGE???

Y'all actually believe this shit?????

Because my opinions are right and if you disagree you have to be a [superficially deconstructive label]

Because guns aren't dysgenic.

The government doesn't try to give us guns.

Apples =/= oranges

You have a right to purchase a gun, you have a right to purchase healthcare.

You DON'T have a right that the government will buy you a gun, and you DON'T have a right that the government will buy you healthcare

IF YOU DON'T SAGE THIS SHITTY THREAD YOU ARE WORST THAN FAGGOT OP

>guns are free

We need the Day of the Rake

Oh look it's a leaf.

I was under the impression that americans bought their own guns.

Because the majority of Americans aren't murderers, but the majority are fat fuckers who will be a drain on any healthcare system?

Most people do not steal their gun from some one else.

You sir would be correct. Unlike the faggot maple syrup sucking canuck.

I've got to use my glock more than I've been able to use my insurance. Checkmate democucks.

I don't expect anyone to pay for my guns
>a fucking leaf

Looking grim for Trudeau I stay up at night wondering what new horror those fucks will unleash on the north.

You are not entitled to someone else's labor. Slavery was abolished 150 years ago.

Sage.

Because having free healthcare would literally destroy the US economy. Too many people in the US are unhealthy and would take advantage of the free healthcare, the cost of the government to keep whatever free healthcare they have would cripple them.

Americans are incapable of looking after themselves.

Quite simply another post that gives me Socialist Cancer.

Health care is a personal choice. Whether you can have it, or not. Much like a gun. Most people don't give you the choice to have guns because it's viewed as inconvenient.

Here's the problem with Healthcare for everyone. IT CAN'T WORK. To cover and insure every one under your care not only increases the price of medical expenses, but you also have to ration out that care determined by their condition of who has a better chance of "making it."

Were also in the midst of an issue with a monopoly regarding pharmaceuticals. You know, the ONE essential thing when it comes to health care? The price of those things are high and now have no reason to come down because EVERYONE IS LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO PAY FOR IT! NOT FOR THEMSELVES! BUT FOR OTHER PEOPLE!

Ever heard of economics? It's complex, too complex to explain here, but rest assured it's under control.

Holy shit I see what everyone's talking bout now. WHERE'S MY FREE FUCKING GUN MAN?

Do you know the difference between a right and a privilege?

Americans are retarded for opposing socialized healthcare, but those two things are totally unrelated.
Guns aren't given to citizens.

Nobody is against people having healthcare. The problem is that universal healthcare has more downsides than it does benefits.

For example,. I had to wait 30 fucking days to get an ultrasound, Others been waiting over 8 years now for surgery, boss's brothers been waiting 27 years for an intestinal surgery

Universal healthcare is absolutely the most unorganized, worst system of healthcare.

It's so fucking retarded

Do you think the leftists realize how dishonest and retarded memes like this are? Or do they share them unironically like "yeah, look how true this is! Ugh FUCK REPUBLICANS"

And at the cross section of those two things? Unemployed niggers and illegal aliens that don't pay taxes.

Weird how that works.

The right to bear arms is just that, because the citizenry should be capable of defending themselves and potentially fight a state that has grown too large for the citizen's own good.
Healtcare is the fruit of someone's labour, you do not have a right to that.

Rural and suburban retards vote democrat

Explain then how socialized healthcare systems in West are all ranked above US healthcare?
>b-but muh anecdotes
You people are literally lying. Some of the shit I read here, one would think Montenegro has far better healthcare than Canada. Fuck off.

The government has no right to take things away from you

Your health is your own and nobody elses. It's simply not the same and a false equivalency. Nobody is REQUIRED to give you anything. The constitution only puts limits on what the government can TAKE.

The fact we have doctors, health insurance, trash men, etc in this country is through the graciousness of your fellow man.

Where can I pick up my taxpayer funded gun?

When did we get free guns from the government?

you have a right to PURCHASE a gun
the same way you should have a right to PURCHASE healthcare

consitution says nothing about being funded by everyone else through force

Leaf is correct.
In germany we have both, so you can chose, but most people opt for private healthcare because you don't have to wait and get better treatment.
The government funded healthcare patients have to deal with tons of bullshit. It just doesn't work.

Pic related is true
however it takes over 55 iq to understand that so its out of antifa intellectual reach

Keep shilling shillionaire! Pay your taxes!
This

When did the government mandate that everyone own a gun? When did anyone advocate universal gun ownership? When did anyone advocate that taxes be confiscated to pay for people to own guns?

>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF

Some of us don't want to rely on the kindness of strangers for our personal security. I will not outsource my personal defense to police.

Because no one if forcing you to buy a gun

oh shit, I didn't know they were handing out guns for free in the US, you fucking leaftard

Said the leaf. How are those anti free speech laws progressing in your cucked country? Still feeling free as long as you keep your mouth shut?
Day of the rake is coming my dude....

When some uninsured conservacuck collapses and gets sent to the hospital, racks up loads of medical bills and cant afford to pay them, that cost gets passed onto everyone else. The idea that health care is "optional" is just plain false.

Also, the constitution was written ~150 years before health insurance was even a thing, so the idea that the written text is somehow authoritative over whether health care = "right to life" is likewise bullshit.

I have a right to defend myself.

Versus

I have a right to force someone who spent 10yrs in med school and hundreds of thousands of dollars to apply their knowledge to alleviate my medical issues caused by my own poor choices without paying by forcing all the people around me to pay.

Now you tell me.

>Guns are free and paid for by government

>Canadians go to America for healthcare a lot
>6 hour emergency wait time is average
>y'all
CAN WE AT LEAST BAN LEAFS FROM MAKING THREADS? Please for fucks sake this shouldn't be allowed. So much cancer would be stopped if this little thing was done at least.

>AC
>On Canada

>Strawman

There isn't a single republican on the planet advocating for the government to take other people's money and buy everyone a gun.

seeI guess the silver lining to your thinking is that obesity, diabetes and declining life expectancy seems to be a trumpcuck trend so you and your ilk are dying off in record numbers. If only we could speed up the process.

>HEALTHCARE is a PRIVILEGE

I do NOT want to pay for
an alcoholics liver,
a 3 pack a day lifetime smoker's lung,
a 600 pound fatty's diabetes
etc.

Many per-existing conditions are poor lifestyle choices and FUCK NO I will not pay for them

you wouldn't understand true freedom, blow away leaf.

>implying NEET queers like you who suckle on mommys teats into their 20s pay for jack shit

also, see --in the unlikely event that you do pay taxes/have your own insurance, you're paying for them anyway. why are conservashits so shortsighted and incapable of even basic critical thinking?

YOU SAY 'NO' TO MY AR-15, YOU FUCKIN' PRICK! YOU AIN'T GONNA ABLE TO SAY 'NO' TO ME WHEN I GET TO YOUR HOUSE, YOU MOTHERFUCKER!!

The thing is, you have to pay for a gun. Free healthcare makes you pay for everyone else's failed shitty healthcare.

>says "free healthcare"
>invalidates himself in the same sentence
It's not free if you fucking pay for it, fucko.

where do I have to move to get free taxpayer bought guns?

Well said

I jsut found this place from /r_donald_duck_/

u guys r pretty hard core lol
how do i vote posts

>When some uninsured conservacuck collapses and gets sent to the hospital, racks up loads of medical bills and cant afford to pay them

Fucking shit ass liberals cried a fucking river of tears and got laws passed that FORCES taxes to be payed for this shit... NO, take every fucking dime from these free loaders... if they were too stupid to BUY health care insurance then they deserve to be destitute

>what is increased taxes to pay for socialised healthcare

You still have to pay for healthcare just like you do a gun.

What you're saying is you want free healthcare. Well, if that's the case then I want free guns.

That equals not free.

This picture make it look like state is distributing guns to all citizens and paid for it from tax money.

hey my fellow pede

...

guns are in the bill of rights

you dont have to pay for other peoples guns

>Fucking shit ass liberals cried a fucking river of tears and got laws passed that FORCES taxes to be payed for this shit...

Do you really not understand what I'm saying? If someone racks up medical bills and can't pay them (e.g. by not being insured) that's just a loss for hospitals, which means they have to jack up the price for care for EVERYONE to compensate. Thus we ALL PAY.

Not surprised you can't figure this shit out, since it is unlikely you have your own health insurance. Grow up faggot.

Obamacare wasn't about every American having health insurance.

I hate when libcucks do this shit.

>Look at X European country and their healthcare system that works so well and isn't Obamacare at all! Vote for Obamacare!

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The constitution.

Guns are a tool, an item, something that you purchase. Being forced to buy a gun is like being forced to purchase a television.

Healthcare, if forced, requires that I provide a service to someone else, or that I participate, forcefully, in a system. I can choose to buy a gun. Your argument is that I shouldn't be able to choose to participate in healthcare, rather as a provider or receiver.

>you're paying for them anyway
Ok cool. Why are we even having this conversation then? Looks like we're already paying for them, pack your shit up folks we're done here!

Hey once we have the white Ethno state
I won't have a problem with single payer or universal

Healthcare is for those that can afford it.
Everything has a price. Resources are limited and have value. You can't give them away.
Allowing the poor to have free healthcare is disruptive to evolution of humanity.
>Also, kill the commies, jews, and niggers.

I fucking love it when people from other countries have opinions about US domestic policy. Fuck off leaf-cuck.

...a little off topic, but the same pharmaceutical companies that handed out opiates like candy and now we have a pill/heroin epidemic.

Because you pay for the gun. You can pay for the healthcare too, you know. In which case you will be legally entitled to receive competent care.

Every man aged 18-40 must possess An ar15 issued in case of war

>that's just a loss for hospitals
Do NOT care for them... no money no health care

If this bothers you then donate YOUR money to as charity hospital that WILL care for them... DO NOT force me to pay for it

How is buying your own gun, with your own money, somehow equivalent to everybody else buying your health insurance?

You don't understand rights. Rights are what you can do and the government cannot hassle you for it.
Rights are NOT something everyone else has to pay for.

You have the right to freedom of speech...this does not mean everyone else has to pay to buy you a megaphone.

I can't tell if you're trolling or just retarded. YOU ARE ALREADY BEING FORCED TO PAY FOR IT. Likewise in response to the only difference between universal health care and our current system is that people get care without going bankrupt.

Fucking underage kids. Please GTFO Sup Forums

Came to say the same thing, the right to BUY and own a gun is different than the right for OTHERS to pay for your healthcare.

>YOU ARE ALREADY BEING FORCED TO PAY FOR IT.

I DO NOT WANT TO PAY FOR IT... I want government OUT of the health business... I want the laws changed... government health care is NOT a RIGHT... government has ZERO reason to be in health care business

>occupy democrats
>leaf
kys

My favorite health care model I've learned about so far was the traditional Chinese model

You pay you doctor a monthly bill to keep you healthy, and when your sick, he doesn't get paid until your well again

>DO NOT force me to pay for it
Do not force me to pay for wars in the middle east & the bribing of foreign officials in the guise of foreign aid.

Both of these unnecessary government expenditures are for the benefit of corporations, and if both were eliminated it would easily pay for national health care.

A

FUCKING

LEAF

So you think the labor and time of another highly educated professional is a right, but the ability to purchase and own something with the fruit of your own labor is a privilege?

I'm sorry man you're an imbecile

>a fucking leaf

>Also, the constitution was written ~150 years before health insurance was even a thing, so the idea that the written text is somehow authoritative over whether health care = "right to life" is likewise bullshit.

What is more authoritative than the law? Why do leftists always forget that the Constitution is not just a set of suggestions, it's the supreme law of the land. There is nothing more authoritative in the United States than the Constitution.

If the government prosecutes me for stealing a gun, is that an infringement of my 2nd Amendment rights?

Move to Europe you fucking faggot

>it would easily pay for a shitty product that hurts more than it helps

ftfy, fagit

Boy I sure would love having to wait six months to see a specialist about the pus-leaking boils on my ass. Truly you have shown me the way, leaf.

The gubberment doesn't tax you to give people those guns.

single-payer healthcare is extremely risky in a nation with debts exceeding 100% of gdp and liabilities that will enslave the next 10 generations.

>Do not force me to pay for wars in the middle east & the bribing of foreign officials in the guise of foreign aid.

Then next election get out of your mamas basement and vote.

Praise Trump

No one is going around demanding a free gun. If you want something you buy it. You need a liver transplant because you are a achoholic you pay for it. Trading money for goods and services. Not that complicated.

Trump's going to reduce the debt to 0 you fucking shill.

Defending ones life is a right, extending ones life is not.

>occupy democrats

SAGE

YOU DON'T GET GUN HANDOUTS YOU RETARDED LEAF, YOU PAY FOR THEM OUT OF YOUR OWN POCKET