What's wrong with communism?

What's wrong with communism?

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Anti-Christian.

>muh skydaddy
So?

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pretty much everything

It has never been tried before. I dont trust systems that havent been tried before.

It doesn't work.

Wrong

Communists demand that there must be a violent purge of the middle & upper classes, followed by a "dictatorship of the proletariat" (i.e. a dictatorship of a ruling party which claims to represent the proletariat)

What if I don't want that?

Never works without an extreme citizen fatality.

It doesn't work.

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Wrong.

Not an argument

Treats everyone equal

Everything.

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>being anti-christian

Hell is for ever!

Gorbachev was a liberal traitor who worked for US, USSR would've survived easily without him

And bolsheviks were literally jews.

Everything

oh wow muh jooz, we have an intellectual here.

Works in the minds of retards.

Everything.

I see you're here just to shitpost, Genghis Khan.

Commuism haters thinks that communists makes them lose their money. But you don't need money when everything is free!
Just think about your family: you don't use money to buy a food from your mother, right?

Nice shilling faggot.

Everybody who has family are literally livinig inside communism. And everyone would agree than family relationships are much friendly and warm than corporate relationships on your work
Isn't it the proof that communism is a better?

>What is liberal theology

question: are NEETS supported under communism? i dont want to work. do I have to ?

Stealing is wrong.

>skydaddy still has billions of followers and is growing
>communism has completely fallen apart everywhere but for a few poor nations
God: 1
Communism: 0

Do you give your family the power to pull you out of your bed at night and execute you?

To each according to their need, from each according to their ability. You'll need to work, but only as much as you are capable of.

Funny how Marx never worked a day in his life. Not even when his family was starving.
He was a leech and a neet.
Das Kapital is just the biggest leftist shitposting ever done

ok cool because I'm capable of very little due to anxiety and general laziness

Marxist theory is just Jewish intellectual self-indulgence, an excuse for its own existence and for building a giant unicorn to dazzle goyim. It's like rabbis talking out of their asses over some passage in the Torah for 2000 years and constructing a giant thing out of it, just because.

Its purpose is the gulags and bloodbaths; those are not an unintended side-effect. Communism has not "failed"; it killed 100M people, and that's what it always meant to do.

He might have been a leech, but surely that's just an invitation to learn from his mistakes, no?

Well they're not going to care if you're lazy or not. You're still going to have to work. Anxiety would be an actual problem though

i figure my best effort is 1 or 2 days a year. does that sound ok

>Anxiety would be an actual problem though
Oh, would you look at that, I just found out that I too have crippling anxiety user.

No that is nowhere near ok
If you have an able body you would still work.
>What are psychological evaluations

Nothing.

>What's wrong with communism?

The controllers never change from capitalism or agrarianism to communism.....

The only thing that changes is that the government now owns EVERYTHING that you thought YOU owned.

And they reallocate it from your "privlidged" ass.

And privileged is defined however (((THEY))) fucking WANT it to be defined.

you fucking college (educated) morons.

No it's a diet book written by a fat guy.
If he can't be bothered to actually work and create value together with his comrades. Why would anyone else.

Also..
The whole idea of communism is that the proletariat are unaware of their class struggle and therefore do not revolt.
So they need an "intelligent" leadership to overthrow the ruling class.
This leadership must be armed and empowered but should then disband once the ruling class is overthrown. But this new ruling class never gives up power and then runs the economy into the ground. Because communism does not have a free market.
Equality of opertunity is good. I fully support it. Equality of outcome is not.

Not to mention the horrible murders committed in the name of communism.
I'm not gonna gloss over the murder and starvation of 250 milion people just because "it wasn't real communism"

no user 1-2 days per year is the best of my ability im not very good you see.
also can my job be shitposting on Sup Forums? im ok at that i could probably pull like 30 hr per week.
if not can my job be art? i like painting.

>What are psychological evaluations
>what is lying

You run out of other peoples money eventually

>but only as much as you are capable of
Slavery, what if I don't want to work every single day?

G-geez user, you got me there! Now we should ALL lie to psychologists about having anxiety, that way we can ALL get neetbux!

I agree with you. I don't think communism could work, I'm just pointing out in this thread that people don't understand how it's MEANT to work and are using shit arguments.

I suppose you wouldn't have to if everyone were working well.

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cool im game for any system where I can not work and be just as rich as everyone else where do i sign up

if i have to work that sounds like slavery i dont want that

You'll need to work just as much as everyone else you fucking retard

Are you trying to be this stupid?

>Now we should ALL lie to psychologists about having anxiety, that way we can ALL get neetbux!
Hey, if your system can be exploited user, it's gonna be exploited.

what defines a unit of work, just curious? is it like hours? obviously doctors work is different form a laborers. should we create a system where you get tokens for every hour you work and you can exchange those tokens for goods and services?

this.

Completely agreeing with you.
There is how it should work and how it works in practice.
Therefore the thesis of communism is debunked. And can be shoveled into the trash.

The current capitalist system promotes overproduction and uses advances of technology and thus productivity to cut workers instead of work hours. So in a communist system you'd still have to work but a lot less since we could focus on equality over reckless profitseeking

I was being sarcastic.
Kek'd

But really, I don't think communism WOULD work because of psychological egoism. If you're up for a day's read pick up Animal Farm, even if it has kind of become a meme. Still explains why it's failed in the past well. We should keep capitalism because it's the most pragmatic system. Socialism COULD work but I doubt those changes will come any time soon. says it completely, communism is the nicest sounding on paper but never works in real life because humans are greedy creatures. Not much more we can do with that.

people are shit, and for communism to work people should be 99.9% shit free

Because by no classes, they mean no middle class and no rich class, everyone will be poor class.

It has always been like that. So who is this system helping really? At max 10% of the poorest people? What's the point then?

Also, from each according to his ability and to each according to his need is immoral and unfair. It removes any motivation for improvement and rewards arbitrary "need". People just assume it's a paradise with everyone being equal and having a fun time, god damn retards.

Contradicts human nature, needs to be enforced through dictatorship.

START UP THE ROTORS

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>I was being sarcastic.
Yet your point still stands. I have "severe anxiety" that prevents me from ever working under communism user. I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is. Now give me my free stuff.

Who opens these companies that advances technology and who will work his ass off to make it happen without any rewards, any incentive?

For that matter, what is anyones incentive to actually TRY? It's a neet paradise ffs

So, something working briefly only to be squelched, is working?

>falling for jewish lies and threats if you don't obey them

You're speaking like humans are some kind of cattle. Communism would work if we all had some kind of hivemind but we don't. Why work hard or do a good job if you got nothing out of it? this is what's wrong with communism. It goes against human nature.

>Who opens these companies that advances technology and who will work his ass off to make it happen without any rewards, any incentive?
Daily reminder that this guys who actually creates science and things are just wage slaves like any others
Your argument is invalid

You utter moron, they are WAGE slaves. Wage as in they get paid. Who studies ther ass of in college to be rewarded by a thank you note and his regular place in the food line?

>we could focus on equality
Why should I care about equality?

It cant be made. it cant work. If you read communist manifesto then you know that they had a plan tha involves dictatorship, confiscations and logically it leads to civil war. And it must work as a state capitalism for some time.

They say that they will deal with overproduction crisis and economic depression in world by conquering it and taking all property and capital under control, this will be more bloody than all big wars combined.

they are just mad jews that wants to take property of other people, especially neo-trotskyists.

You can bake in incentives in the system. Just not on the current scale where 1% of people can gobble up 42% of a country's wealth. Most of technological advancement is done through scientific research done in universities instead of corporations. They just use science's findings to their own benefit

Basically communism is a retards attempt of correcting a world in which you can either be, on a quality of life/happiness scale, anywhere from 1 to a 100 by replacing it with a system where everyone is at 10.

Amazing work fuckheads

I'm not saying this system is perfect, but it's ages ahead of communism

everything

ayy lmao

They could've saved the regime, but union was bound to shatter

also,
>You can bake in incentives in the system.

That creates inequality and makes you the rich/middle class when compared to the rest of the rabble, that wont work in communism.

Who will work in the mines, on oil rigs, all those dangerous jobs without being offered a greater wage than the pleb with an easy job? You can't brainwash everyone

THOU SHALL NOT STEAL

>You can bake in incentives in the system
The system you are describing is not communism then.

Under capitalism science investments are determined only by profit. Millions of patents left unused because it's not profitable at this time to implement them.
Capitalism slow science!

Is that why Cuba is still using cars from the 1960's? Because of their technological advancement? Oh, but North Korea, they've sure got their technology figured out, right?

Sure call it what you want. I doubt we're changing to full on communism at once anyways. And probably even shouldn't since it has its legit critisisms. Its just much closer to an ideal system than our current one

People made those patents so they could get rich from them, we're going on in circles here.

You could maybe motivate, optimistically 10-20% of the population to work as hard as they would with incentive but the rest would drag you all down, it just doesn't function.

It's telling when biggest supporters of communism are young retards in college who still haven't worked a day in their life.

Spaghetti

Kommunismi ei oo koskaan toiminu, eikä se voi toimia koska sitä ei voida tieteellisesti todistaa. Tapa ittes.

Kill yourself russian traitor.

user, what you're describing is just regulated capitalism, aka literally everything from fascist Germany to current America. Almost all politics today is just arguing on how capitalism should be differently regulated.

The economic calculation problem.
Markets are inevitable.

Jews

Finnish Independence is illegal, Lenin granted it when he wasn't proper leader. USSR didn't exist when Finland became independent. Putin should come and reclaim his rightful clay.

You, suomi brother should know why

How does a capitalist solve the problem we'll face soon where automation kills millions of jobs? Except for >fuck you poor I made my wealth off of your labor now get out of my sight

>How does a capitalist solve the problem we'll face soon where automation kills millions of jobs
Through fascism or distributism

How does a communist solve the problem of a nigger who refuses to work the job that the state orders him to without the use of a gulag?

It's more like -10. Pretty sure even the homeless in a capitalist system have better lives than the average factory slave under communism.

skydaddy strawman best strawman

Fundamentally inefficient and predicated on a moronic conception of how goods are produced.

Yeah, that 10 was generous

So the constant communism generals failed now you are down to asking people what is wrong with communism every single day.
How many times does it have to fail before you realise it is a failure?

Don't act like this is a great reason to go full communism right now.