>war and poverty eliminated
>racism gone
>bigotry gone
>money gone
>everyone pursues their passions
>religion no longer relevant
>start colonizing space
>women and black men can be captains
>make contact with aliens
>breed with aliens to make super hybrids
are you ready to boldly go /pol?
are you doing your part to make this reality happen?
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Just one nuclear war away, OP.
Pretty close actually. Just pick up the nearest gun, point it at your head, pull the trigger and viola! commie trek.
>racism gone
Impossible. Nature itself is racist, and certain animal races will always be better at certain ecosystem niches than other races.
>money gone
Jews won't allow this.
>religion no longer relevant
Tens of thousands of years away. Islam, the most biggoted and intolerant religion, is getting stronger and stronger each year.
Star Trek is literally only possible because they can create matter. It's the only way space communism can work.
>(((Star Trek)))
Star Trek was a set in a socialist society.
star trek society takes 1 thing- replicators
once everyone has immediate access to everything, i believe that many of the failings of mankind dissolve away.
If you read the books they mention the 2 big breakthroughs that averted global destruction- interstellar warp drives and replicator technology.
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Star Trek society has unlimited resources. None of that shit will ever happen until we don't have to worry about Tribe B growing too large and using up/demanding/stealing the resources of Tribe A.
And the godless commies accuse Christians of living in fairy tales.
>when will dog society realize that Pitt bulls and chihuahuas are identical and we are all one breed the dog breed
These people are fucking delusional
visionaries like elon musk will figure out replicator technology eventually
>Race-mixing agenda
Already here
When we find the first alien species we can hate instead of eachother
Imagine how much we could achieve if we could unite against the Ayys, we would be mass producing enterprise style interstellar ships in a decade
Star Trek is based in a fantastical context in which scarcity has magically disappeared, even Star Wars is more realistic in that aspect
>racism gone
>bigotry gone
even in the trek universe this is still prevalent
no one likes space jews
sagge
>it's a holodeck episode
Space commies in pajamas? No thank you.
Terran Empire or nothing.
Star Trek's entire economy relies on antimatter being a power source.
It is not. The trouble is that like charges repel, so the more anti-protons you try to cram into a Penning trap, the more the cloud wants to expand due to electrostatic repulsion, and the more energy you'll need for the confining electrostatic fields to keep it from rupturing.
At some point the energy you'll need for the confining field will be more than the energy you'll get from the antimatter, which sort of defeats the purpose of it being a power source. A simplistic estimate is this comes at about 4.4×1012 positrons, which would yield about 0.7 joules.
You can avoid the electrostatic repulsion problem by using uncharged antimatter (i.e., anti-hydrogen atoms), but then you cannot use electrostatic fields to contain it. Clouds of anti-hydrogen atoms cannot be contained by magnetic fields, and we don't know how to make artificial gravity fields. Can't use matter containers either, so the question of what to use is rather burning.
So it's a non-start, not even mentioning how brutally wrong Gene Roddenberry was about the character of humanity, except the Irish.
I enjoy Star Trek series, but their world is a retarded faggot's fantasy. They have no money, but they trade resources. Wars happen over resources and power. People will always have prejudice. It's in our nature.
I can never tell if people are trolling when they say this.
we are probably only 10-15 years away from replicator technology
Are you retarded?
>what are atomic nuclei
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hint: yes
it's just better to think, rather than that they think it's true
His only visions are how to extract subsidies from government.
>At some point the energy you'll need for the confining field will be more than the energy you'll get from the antimatter, which sort of defeats the purpose of it being a power source. A simplistic estimate is this comes at about 4.4×1012 positrons, which would yield about 0.7 joules.
just reverse polarity and increase field confinement in the warp coils you noob
>we have no idea what we will use for power
What are asking, exactly?
Energy to matter is not possible on a set-top box.
Theoretically speaking it's possible for us to do the same, but with automation and materials research, the cost of producing most goods and services will drop to the point of being free, and ubiquitous (i.e., a 'replicator' in every home) that current industrial-era economics could basically become obsolete.
That's only in that particular circumstance. Maybe we'll get there, maybe we won't.
the entire socio-economic system of the federation is reliant on replicator technology. take that away, and it's an impossible fantasy.
Solar power? For spaceships?
>>money gone
Federation ducats, gold pressed latinum, etc.
Money isn't gone, sadly
If you think the only ion that exists is in the form of a single proton then you are massively retarded
>the cost of producing most goods and services will drop to the point of being free, and ubiquitous
Yes, just like how in a communist society everyone will be equal.
How stupid are you to think that would work?
maybe he meant solar sails
but that can only get you at about 1/2 of the speed of light
with that we could reach Alpha Centauri in 8 years
but all races in star trek have access to replicator/holo tech and antimatter power, yet some still like to dominate others.
star trek isnt quite unlimited, but its pretty close to post scarcity, if you have enough power and an antimatter core
Post-scarcity.
When we are able to make food, water, shelter, and energy immediately available to absolutely everyone with zero burden on the rest of society, then we'll be able to do Star Trek.
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>Theoretically speaking it's possible for us to do the same, but with automation and materials research
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>That's only in that particular circumstance. Maybe we'll get there, maybe we won't.
All theoretical bro. I don't make wild predictions about the future.
Can anyone understand this guy? I don't think english is his specialty.
As long as there are conservative religious nutbags we will be far away from any utopian future
This. Hundreds of millions have to die, Sihks have to get genetically engineered so they can squish people's skulls, and Europe will have to be destroyed.
We get like 20 years of AnCap before the invention of Warp Drive
Well, what separate our society from Start Trek is a post-scarcety civilization.
Now, we discovered that it is possible to convert light in matter thus, gicing a step towards said society.
But them again, they are just particles, and you would have to convert lots of those sub particles and them, these particles i atoms, and the atoms in molecules in such quantity that you would get what you want in a few seconds. And this goes way beoying the capability of any computer build so far.
Also, Im fearful that in the momment we have everything we need with the push of a button, society will probably disapear because no one will have a reason to go outside and do stuff.
Fuck, right now porn is already ruining the youth in seeking relationships.
Yeah with a probe weighing as much as a postage stamp.
You're saying "give communism a chance" which is a murderously stupid statement.
>Now, we discovered that it is possible to convert light in matter thus, gicing a step towards said society.
Oh god, brazil. It's like when your people played with the cesium. You literally have no idea how anything works.
Note the lack of niggers and muslims in star trek
They exist but in small numbers
Kek approved
I look forward to the nuclear horror
You want my honest opinion? Ok.
Most of the progress made from the last 150 years or so was made possible through the advent of modern medicine, antibiotics, aseptic practices, and the like. This led to a bubble where people weren't constantly trying not to die or get crippling diseases. This led to expanded opportunities for education, employment, research and development, which caused us to develop technologies that made our lives more convenient. We are still currently inside that bubble - a lot of us aren't preoccupied with merely staying alive, so we are able to do more productive things. As long as a nice chunk of society isn't preoccupied with merely staying alive, we can continue to develop and someday reach the technology level similar to that shown in Star Trek.
However, if we recede into a state where only a few people are afforded that opportunity, basically nothing will get done. Certainly not enough to develop the next big breakthrough technology (think replicators and FTL travel if we're using the Star Trek reference). When that happens, probably nothing will break us back out of that slump - we would be stuck in a constant state of reproducing exactly as quickly as our environment would tolerate. Life would forever only be a game of survival, reproduction, and nothing else.
Nuclear war and eugenics war to eliminate most ape like niggers away.
The plot direction never explored in depth with replicators is that they could easily function as multi purpose tools and weapons.
Programs could be written to make and unmake any bit of matter, human, plant, animal or other material and it could be "summoned" when necessary and then made to vanish when you were done using it.
There are of course, limits to what CGI and actors can portray. There is also the problem that such use of a matter creator/destroyer would be "too much Sci Fi" for a normal audience.
I only recall that Evil Kirk has a Tantalus Field that he uses to make his enemies disappear in TOS: Mirror, Mirror.
Star Trek in all it's forms was a political commentary so they could not risk promoting traditional society by showing truly horrific uses of their advanced technology as an every day occurrence.
More nitpicking: Cloaking Devices that require your shields to be down and your weapons not to be able to fire is not realistic fiction. It is Plot Device To Build Tension fiction. The primary use of a Cloak in a military application would be to shoot your weapon will not being detected and move before your enemy guesses your location. Marketers also need their customers to see what they are buying so they will run out to the toy store to get it.
Torpedoes and Phasers that don't obliterate unguarded targets (unless those targets are humanoid) is also a Tension Building Plot Device. CGI limitations also come into play.
I'd love to see a Sci Fi show that isn't just more Leftwing Propaganda, therefore it can be cold and ruthless as a matter of fact as opposed to a moral tale.
How would the ability to make and unmake anything really play out in human hands? The power of God in the hands of mortal men. That would be fun to see on screen.
And only 6.5 years for the probe/ship
Hey quick question: Did we invent fire?
Follow up question if you answered yes to the first one: How did we invent fire?
then it would make sense to feed the starving children in places like africa so we would have more minds figuring out the science begind replicator technology
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> Out of control immigration
> Pollution everywhere
> High IQ people sent to the off world colonies
> 'be my ai gf' is a reality
> anime everywhere
Everything is headed in this direction
Not unless we turn one half of the surface of mercury into solar panels and the other half into laser arrays.
I'll just cite wikipedia to save time:
>The Sun's inner gravitational focus point, lies at minimum distance of 550 AU from the Sun, and is the point to which light from distant objects is focused by gravity as a result of it passing by the Sun. This is thus the distant point to which solar gravity will cause the region of deep space on the other side of the Sun to be focused, thus serving effectively as a very large telescope objective lens.[21][22]
>It has been proposed that an inflated sail, made of beryllium, that starts at 0.05 AU from the Sun would gain an initial acceleration of 36.4 m/s2, and reach a speed of 0.00264c (about 950 km/s) in less than a day. Such proximity to the Sun could prove to be impractical in the near term due to the structural degradation of beryllium at high temperatures, diffusion of hydrogen at high temperatures as well as an electrostatic gradient, generated by the ionization of beryllium from the solar wind, posing a burst risk. A revised perihelion of 0.1 AU would reduce the aforementioned temperature and solar flux exposure.
>Such a sail would take "Two and a half years to reach the heliopause, six and a half years to reach the Sun’s inner gravitational focus, with arrival at the inner Oort Cloud in no more than thirty years."
That doesn't have anything to do with a replicator.
shit by the time we do that we would've probably terraformed Venus and Mars and strip mined the Moon
One of the basic of thermodinamics is that have to give something to get something.
By using quantum of light to create matter would give us almost unlimited ammout of the "fuel" needed to create anything we needed both on Earth, off-world or while in transit in space ships.
That alone would be anough to refuel ships while they travel to their destinations.
Google says thet working on a real quantum computer combind that with twhat AI they working on and we see in next 10years.
Some might argue we're getting further away
We're reaching the point where feeding niggers become top priority
>basing any argument from science FICTION
>How would the ability to make and unmake anything really play out in human hands? The power of God in the hands of mortal men. That would be fun to see on screen.
You know for a fact that we would just use such power to think of extra creative ways to kill other humans.
>most of the progress of the last 150 years
what about it? is the last 150 special or something
Uh, no not likely. Those don't really have the returns that they are depicted as having in lazily written science fiction.
>One of the basic of thermodinamics is that have to give something to get something.
Oh boy i'm getting taught about thermodynamics i'm sure this is going places.
>quantum of light
...photons? What? Fucking lol brazil, stick to slowly going extinct and re-enacting episodes of TNG.
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The Borg didn't assimilate Earth because they knew all the muds would make terrible drones.
Please. The Federation is little better than a homo sapiens only club. The idea of inalienable "human" rights is inherently racist against other species.
Quantum computers have extremely limited applications. It would not be useful for this sort of thing.
At point when mankind isn't limited to a single planet and it's limited resources it might make sense to support starving niggers. As long as we need to sustain ourselves on one planet it doesn't make sense.
>All the humans get along
>But lets project all the actual differences between humans on to aliens.
Are you kidding? The whole point of the federation is to cuck humanity by making them basically the lap dogs of countless completely worthless species like the Bolians and the Tellerites.
I think people would try to create pleasure based fantasy worlds too and standard morality would cease to exist.
The consequences for screwing up your life would be minimal if you could hit the reset button or the change X variable button whenever you wanted to.
Projectile weaponry would be a curiosity of a deeply primitive age and played with in recreational war reenactments. Sort of like paintball but this would be real because you could set your machine to bring everyone back to life and perfect health after the battles were over.
i wouldnt mind living in 5th element universe for about a week
Underrated post.
But seriously, only way a Trek Society is going to happen is if we get out of his hedonist worshiping society and create a replicator. So unlimited shit, but also people will work to better themselves rather than sitting around all day and growing fat.
I know about the incident in goiânia. Poor ppl dont have to know what radiation is.
Your goverment on the other hand, tested nukes using soldiers as guinea pig without warning them of the effects.
What is worse? Gettting fucked by being poor and uneducated or by your own goverment?
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We bred dogs to look different over an extremely short period of time, it wasn't a natural development.
Read about ants. Some differing species can mix into one colony but most fight each other.
You do know you'd most likely live at the bottom of the smog cloud with everyone else, right? Korben Dallas was ex-military, that's the only reason he had a view of the sky.
Being fucked by ignorance, always.
nobody lives in the smog, thats why korben hid there, and theres no traffic
Won't ever happen
Star trek requires outright communism
Communism will not exist in the future and Russiastan is being over run by Muslims and they will not continue the ideology because they know it to be retarded
South America will eventually go full capitalist as it's inevitable when those fucking midgets finally see it's benefits first hand
Africa is a dead end in every meaning of the word
Europe is going to be a caliphate very soon
Canada is probably going to either get annexed by us or taken over by kebab
Straya will either be taken over by chinks or kebab but if they survive both onslaughts they will reject their terrible version if communism fur good
New Zealand will be completely Asian soon
Islam will never dominate America and neither will communism
So who exactly is going to invent the fucktarded federation and over come these issues to create a boring communist society without any basis of communism to start from?
Pretty far.
On the other hand, the Enterprise computer is dumber than my phone.
How close are we to replicators and warp drive? (interstellar travel)
Remember First Contact? Starfleet/Federation etc was not created until AFTER WW3.
Implying technology is even at that point.
>space communism
actually its quite far away from that.
While yes people are "equal" they are still differences in status, occupation and things you can do.
All this things are mostly determined by the person itself.
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Them we are both in the same boat.
We're getting there
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It's like 500 ft of skyscraper across an entire city and nobody uses it?
Sorry. That's most certainly where the majority of humanity lives.
Fucking summer fag
This is why i stopping from coming to this board, i cant stand these non sense childish replies
Reminder that the whole underlying theme of the best series in the franchise was that utopian ideals don't hold up when you have to face real issues. The best you can ever hope for is to do your best to hold fast to your duty and principles without compromising too much of yourself.
Paradise is a lie, you can't solve every political quarrel with nice words and fruit baskets, and sometimes decent people have to do horrible, unspeakable things in the name of the greater good.
No, you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to physics. That is how we differ.
Im so wet at that make me a show daddy
We must eliminate all Jews and Muslims first
Both determined to be impossible by the same physics that allows me to post this to an electronic bulletin board system.
Piper's dream.
Communist poison.
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Favourite scene, thanks for the reminder!
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