Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
>That lack of light pollution Even something as fucked up as Communism can get at least one thing right.
Isaac White
>Rolling blackouts in Pyongyang >Forced labor camps >People getting executed with AA guns >Population shrinking due to malnutrition
"B...BUT look! A photo of a shitty place in South Korea!!!!!"
Asher Foster
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
HELICOPTER RIDES ARE TOO MERCIFUL FOR THE COMMUNIST SCUM BRING BACK SCAPHISM
Daniel Cox
Communists want to destroy your human rights to follow their delusional dogmas; murdering communist leaders is an act of self defense on a national level.
Only a fool would say the fall of communism represented "liberation." By all objective standards it unleashed Western toxins into the Eastern bloc. Plummeting birth rates and life expediencies, skyrocketing rates of abortion, divorce, alcoholism, drug abuse, the wholesale looting of nations by corrupt oligarchs.
Asher Carter
>Sdage four It wasn't real Gommunism try it again!
Nathaniel Rivera
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Jace Ross
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Luke Garcia
Who decides what my abilities and my needs are?
Isaac Carter
Oh really?
Jason Parker
>Most of these deaths come Africa >Communism has been tried in Africa to predictable results
Luke Morales
>overthrow a corrupt capitalist mulatto chink >restored white Spaniard rule in Cuba >fought against the biggest Jewish powers of them all(USA,UK, and Israel) >opposed jazz and rock music >promoted the concept of "new man" which was very fascistic and Nietzschean in nature >threw gays and assorted degenerates into UMAP camps that used the slogan "work will make you men" You'd expect Sup Forums to love this guy
Ethan Gutierrez
National socialism is the only way forward.
Christian Wright
look up Burkina Faso
Bentley Allen
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Adam Barnes
Reminder that communists are delusional dogmatists that don't even know what they want.
Nicholas Reed
What kind?
Christian Mitchell
Reminder that communists think they own the planet for merely existing.
Cooper Hughes
>he thinks Sup Forums is capitalist
Adrian Miller
Hows the soviet union... oh wait
Carter Hill
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Julian Peterson
In 1980, the Soviet Union showed the highest, in Europe, and second highest, worldwide, industrial and agricultural output. The Soviet statistics claimed that in 1960, the Soviet Union's industrial output was only 55% that of America, but this increased to 80% by 1980. The 18 years of Brezhnev's leadership of the Communist Party saw real incomes grow by more than 1.5 times. More than 1.6 billion square meters of living space was commissioned and provided to over 160 million people. At the same time, the average rent for families did not exceed 3% of the family income. Housing, health care, and education were affordable and low-priced. As the circulation of the work force could not be balanced by salaries, there was a lack of workers in some areas, largely in the agricultural sector. This was partly solved by forcing "nonproductive" urban population (older pupils, students, scientists, soldiers, etc.) to work during the harvesting time as agricultural workers (the practice has been informally called 'нapяды нa кapтoшкy' (naryady na kartoshku, "assignments to potato fields")).
You can thank Gorbachev for the downfall
Sebastian Edwards
What about it? The low HDI? The military coup? Or the Burkinabe protests against rising prices due to the centrally planned economy?
"The 2011 Burkinabè protests were a series of popular protests that called for the resignation of Compaoré, democratic reforms, higher wages for troops and public servants and economic freedom"
So they're finally on the right track.
I still fail to see why you thought a nation that has floundered from coup to coup and languished at 185th on the HDI rankings and struggled ao much that it's people rise up and demanded it move towards free market economic liberalisation would help your argument?
Kayden Green
Indeed, fascism is best, but we shouldn't despise the commies, they're at least a step above the degenerate liberals.
Cause Russia turned out real well when you murder everyone who produces anything. Millions of dead eastern Europeans that starved to death cause Joe Blow doesn't actually know anything but his job..
Austin Long
does the working class build factories, maintain machinery and mine resources out of good will or do they do it for money?
you paint the workers as amish folk building barns for the betterment of the community when in fact no one does shit for free. ever.
without capital investment from someone with the money to spend, how do you entice people to build factories, maintain machines and mine resources?
do you promise them that one day when everything is built and mined and all organized into a functional, sustainable endeavour well all get an even share? while in the meantime we can all break our backs building shit for free because one day, one day well all get a share
or does it make more sense to buy people's labour?
And Sankara needed to exert horrifically authoritarian control over the people to impose his ideas. He was condemned for grave human rights violations including torture and extrajudicial killings.
I'm starting to notice a trend with communism and it's inability to survive without resorting to abusing its own people
Matthew Richardson
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Jonathan Diaz
At least he was trying to make sure his people had souls
Liam Ortiz
You didn't disprove any of his points faggot. Socialists can't understand basic economics and think that classes would be destroyed with Communism and naively think everyone will be equal when the elite will still have all the power regardless.
And no, I don't like Capitalism, but it's a hell of a lot more successful then Socialism will ever be
Brandon Torres
>And no, I don't like Capitalism So what do you support?
Austin Gonzalez
>yfw value is intersubjective and there's no objective or consistant correlation between the labour put into an object and its value
David Martin
That's a nice looking wheat field there, but it's pointless if you don't know how to use it. Do you know how to turn wheat into flour? Do you know how to make the dough rise? Do you know how long to bake the bread for without over or under cooking It? Can you even name the types of bread in the picture you posted?
If you answered no to any of those, and I know you did, can you find out how to do any of those things without Jewgle telling you how? You faggots are more reliant on Capitalism then most other people, but you're too stupid to notice
Cameron Bennett
Mao's "Great Leap Forward" killed 45 million people in four years and you want to talk about having a soul?
Communism is soulless by nature. An evil ideology that has been responsible for untold misery and suffering.
Nationalism and Traditionalism mainly, although I support most right wing idealologies
Benjamin Sullivan
*tips edge*
Blake Adams
The Hungarian Revolution, like many other dissident movements in the Eastern Bloc, was actually led by many other communists and socialists. Communism and socialism aren't a monolithic bloc, and some branches are much more humanitarian-oriented than others.
