Brit/pol/ - Mogg edition

>NHS computer systems targeted by large scale attack
bbc.co.uk/news/health-39899646

>Labour's Watson warns of 'Thatcher-style landslide'
bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39905552

>The Conservatives want to give people the power to demand social media companies delete any content they posted as children.
bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39905091

>Lib dems: DUDE WEED LMAO
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39897999

>Labour manifesto leaked
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39877439

>Labour will make NO promise on immigration despite Brexit, leaked plans say
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4496948/Labour-make-NO-promise-cut-immigration.html

>Tim Farron makes pledge for UK to take 50,000 more Syrian refugees at a cost of £4.3billion
theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/11/tim-farron-lib-dems-pledge-uk-take-50000-more-syrian-refugees

>BBC cameraman 'run over by car carrying Jeremy Corbyn'
standard.co.uk/news/politics/bbc-cameraman-run-over-by-car-carrying-jeremy-corbyn-ahead-of-labour-manifesto-signing-a3536416.html

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bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23617555)
youtube.com/watch?v=c-7MbLwG0AU)
youtube.com/watch?v=zInyrDfR4us
lordashcroftpolls.com/2017/05/election-2017-ashcroft-model/
youtube.com/watch?v=F8wKRg-1e6s
gov.uk/government/statistics/percentile-points-for-total-income-before-and-after-tax-1992-to-2011
bbc.com/news/av/uk-politics-24133050/may-women-free-to-wear-veils
youtu.be/6JeYlBRvUeE
youtube.com/watch?v=KUDjRZ30SNo
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

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Reminder that Mogg voted for Snoopers Charter, despite stylising himself traditional conservative and defender of ancient institutions and traditions.
(publicwhip.org.uk/division.php?date=2016-06-07&number=13&display=allvotes)

Reminder that Mogg is a notorious carpet-bagger and stood in seats from Scotland to Somerset before he actually won a seat.
(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Rees-Mogg#Before_entering_Parliament)

Reminder that Mogg disavowed the Traditional Britain group after he came after fire from the leftist media for daring to speak to a conservative group.
(bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23617555)

Reminder that if Mogg placed principles/country above Party or had any integrity whatsoever he would've defected to UKIP back in 2014.

Reminder that not only did he not defect, but he helped to campaign against Mark Reckless in Rochester in 2014. Mark Reckless being UKIP's second elected, and only decent, MP.
(youtube.com/watch?v=c-7MbLwG0AU) .

Do not fall for the Mogg meme
Reminder that Mogg voted for Snoopers Charter, despite stylising himself traditional conservative and defender of ancient institutions and traditions.
(publicwhip.org.uk/division.php?date=2016-06-07&number=13&display=allvotes)

Reminder that Mogg is a notorious carpet-bagger and stood in seats from Scotland to Somerset before he actually won a seat.
(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Rees-Mogg#Before_entering_Parliament)

Reminder that Mogg disavowed the Traditional Britain group after he came after fire from the leftist media for daring to speak to a conservative group.
(bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23617555)

Reminder that if Mogg placed principles/country above Party or had any integrity whatsoever he would've defected to UKIP back in 2014.

Reminder that not only did he not defect, but he helped to campaign against Mark Reckless in Rochester in 2014. Mark Reckless being UKIP's second elected, and only decent, MP.
(youtube.com/watch?v=c-7MbLwG0AU)

OFFICIAL BRIT/POL/ SURVEY

How are you lads voting?

what does brit/pol/ think of based richard spencer?

is he red pilled?

shills

Tory boy cunt.

He has that cuck face

Nice reddit-tier copypasta lads

What do you think of my constituency's candidates lads? What parties do you think they represent?

Don't A&E departments have receptions where they tell people to fuck off if it isn't a serious injury? They need to rename A&E to Serious accidents and emergencies.

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Also he's a Catholic.

Does he hate queers?

don't reply to me ever again disgusting tripnigger

youtube.com/watch?v=zInyrDfR4us

Brit/pol/ has really gone downhill that it defends the alleged Conservatives.

Tory, Labour

Lib Dem, Ukip

> top left: Green
> top right: Tory
> bottom left: Lib Dem
> bottom right: Labour

lordashcroftpolls.com/2017/05/election-2017-ashcroft-model/

youtube.com/watch?v=F8wKRg-1e6s

Theresa May banned him from the country when she was home secretary.

Anyone else watching The Pledge?

>watching Nigel on LBC the other night
>caller calls in
>Nigel starts sperging about football for 45 seconds straight
>"w-with all respect I phoned in to talk about the Theresa May i-interview"

never cringed so hard in my life

>Should have promoted Mark Reckless
Sure, Mogg should have, as a conservative, rallied for an opponent to won a seat. That's not how democracy works.

I'll give you the Snooper's charter though. What a load of bullshit.

>Voting

Hahahahah

Reposting from last thread.

So lads I thought I would throw this one out there for anyone who has to argue with a labour voter saying the Tories are only looking out for the interests of the super rich.

Pic related is the post tax income of the top 10% earners by income from the 1999/2000 fiscal year to the 2014/2015 fiscal year.
Notice that the top 1% of earners have had their incomes essentially stagnate since 2009 despite growing by 60% during the labour governments before the financial crisis.

Over the same period, the median income, or the income of the central 1%/50th percentile grew by around 30% during the 2000-2008 period, and continued to grow by another 25% during the 2009-2015 period. Despite the tory government supposedly doing everything in their power to screw regular working people in favour of the wealthy.

It would seem the super wealthy benefited most from the exuberant spending of the pre crisis labour governments, and were severely hurt by austerity measures during the tory governments, while the average median income earner had their incomes grow at a similar rate during both periods.

source is HMRC:
gov.uk/government/statistics/percentile-points-for-total-income-before-and-after-tax-1992-to-2011

TL;DR:
Rich people got rich faster than poor people under labour.
Rich people get rich slower than poor people under the Conservatives.
Labour Rhetoric is a lie.

The point is if he had any integrity whatsoever he would not have campaigned against Reckless and UKIP and would've defected back in the day.

>Nowadays every scumbag is claiming all they can from the state. If you can't survive by your own means you die - simple as that. Call me harsh, IDGAF.

So you fell for tabloid propaganda, great. (see pic)

>The NHS is just as flawed, it might as well be called the International Health Service.

Health Tourism accounts for 0.3% of NHS spending.

> So when people say privatization doesn't work - it does.

Yet almost every service that is nationalised in Continental Europe is privatisied here in the UK, and our services are far more expensive and less efficient.

>Perhaps not surprisingly, 99% of Conservative voters said they thought Theresa May would make the best Prime Minister of the three main party leaders. One in five Labour voters, 36% of Lib Dems and nearly three in ten Scottish Nationalists said the same.
lmao

Reminder if we had PR we would be under a conservative/ UKIP coalition with Are Nige as deputy prime minister

Only reddit migrants do.

So a Tory government with Are Nige as a worthless lackey unable to get anything useful done? No thanks.

Actually we have one of the more nationalised health systems in Europe. Look at Germany's.

I'd save a fortune if I went private, AND that would help equalise the intergenerational wealth divide.

Privatisation is the fairest way. Alcoholics, fatties and smokers pay more.

Where's the incentive on the NHS to be healthy?

No you wouldn't.
There'd be 4 conservative parties, 7 leftist parties, and cuck centralists would make coalitions time and time again.

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And various socialist and green parties would form a coalition and stop anything remotely right-wing from taking place, as seen in the Netherlands and Germany.

(not op)
>So you fell for tabloid propaganda
looking outside of the box, most people are reliant on state education and health services. Many people don't take preventative measures for their health, nor follow doctor guidlines. And nor do they invest as much time as perhaps they should on raising their own children

alcoholics and smokers pay more than their share for the treatment they get, in extra taxes

We have PR in potato-land, believe me you don't want it.
The biggest issue is I dont have a "local MP" I have a bunch of provincial ones none of whom were elected on the vote of my local area (as we had a local candidate who didn't even get close to the cutoff).

Single Transferable vote is probably the best system I've seen.

(continuing my kind of devil's advocating from last thread)
>Labour rhetoric is a lie
But what you're showing me is that the economy does better under Labour, and I'll take cold hard numbers over bluster and rhetoric any day.

Even if share dividends can be discounted, the initial reaction to the global financial crash was to cut top level salaries and bonuses in the banking sector, and other regulatory measures that will undoubtedly have squeezed the ability of the top 10% to accrue wealth.

>this woman on The Pledge right now
>"'populism' is over"
>far-right parties across Europe now the opposition in their respective countries is somehow the end of """populism"""
>beating out far-right parties by a couple points is now a 'win' for progressives

>embarrassing

What ever happened to nuclear artillery?

True, but the fatsos don't.
... Still don't support a sugar tax, though. Hands off our choccie biccies

Where would these parties have magically appeared from? Not every country is as cucked as yours
>PR would somehow have made Ed milliband do better
>UKIP didn't get 12% of the vote and 0.3% of
the seats
>Implying Farage is cucked like Nick Clegg

Pretty sure that £20,000 in fag tax doesn't cover 3 years of cancer operations

Or Con Lab (a maybe) lib dem all together to stop the evil far right from gaining power

Douglas Murray spoke about that on This Week. To say you won when the nationalists got "only" 1/3 or 49% of the vote is short-sighted, even moreso when we know what's coming in the future.

l-lewd

>Single Transferable vote is probably the best system I've seen.
That's what you use

Top edition lad

you'r ignorinjg the fact they die younger and therefore have a lesser burden on the system.

Being healthy is it's own incentive.

Your PR is shit. There's more than one type. And don't you have STV?

Lads what does it mean when a grill moans to you about her friends getting engaged

Yeah, Liz Kendal was weirdly triumphant about the Macron victory.
And, something like 40% of his votes were people that wanted "Anyone But Le Pen"

It's correct though.

Common sense.

there is about £10 billion on tax for cigarettes, and smoking related disease costs £3 billion per year

she wants a good shag

She was also shockingly blue pilled about it all as well.

>-£20,195

May is a saudi shill

bbc.com/news/av/uk-politics-24133050/may-women-free-to-wear-veils

Typical woman nonsense, doesn't actually mean anything.

she's concerned about her impending loneliness as all her friends abandon her for family
and

#
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>Embarrassing
>Tripfag Rightly So disappears: Tripfag Cope magically appears.

PR almost always leads to many parties, you daft cunt.
You'd get a libertarian party, a cuckservative party, and an alternative Right wing party, just like many countries with PR.

The lefties would be much more split, with a centrist party with welfare state liberalism elements, some social lefty party, a commie party, a hardcore environmentalist party, and other types of lefty splinters.

I think you meant to reply to:
But to follow up on your point, this was one of the reasons I hated demonisation of smokers (back when I smoked). People really fucking ate up the propaganda about it, all of which really overstated the risk of second hand smoking.
Of course, don't be a dick, don't light up in someone's living room if they're not cool with it, but I used to get such dirty looks for it, even when I was going outside.

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Cope didn't post anything about Mogg ITT

>only 23 seconds between them.

But the UK has consistently out-performed other major European economies (including those not in the euro-zone) since the financial crisis. The caveat though, it, the UK outperformed other EU nations in per capita GDP growth pretty consistently under the Labour government too, so it's difficult to make a comparison. I would say Blaire's Labour government was pretty friendly to businesses, a lot of the tax breaks and incentives to open new businesses in the UK were actually brought in under Blaire's government. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem the be the Labour we are being presented with right now.

You are right though that the top earners did take a hit in the financial crisis and you can see the slight dip in the 1% cutoff in the figures, but on the other hand, these are people who are earning £160k+ before tax so my heart doesnt exactly go out to them, middle income earners saw their incomes consistently rise despite the financial crisis.

the top 1% make up roughly 320,000 people.
It is not a group made entirely of company executives and CEO's. The people earning near the cutoff for the 1% (the only people who matter in these figures) are successful doctors, lawyers, medium business owners, bankers, top Engineers and the like.

1/4

2/4

> women free to wear veils
So... They are free to do what they want?

Remember she went to Saudi recently and didn't wear a veil?

Come back when veils are mandatory. Then I'll care.

We have PR using a STV, the issue isnt the STV it's the having large constituencies with multiple representatives.

Or ever.

Was it the Lib Dem?

STV in single member constituencies is just AV

Reminder that the Tories would rather have formed some sort of Con-Lib-Green-SNP Coalition than work with UKIP under such a system back in 2015.

Tory and Lib Dem I assume I got right?

Swap green and Labour.

Because saudi Arabia funds the Tories with oil money.

>Under the conservatives, we recovered better than EU from 08 crash
>Under Labour, we put on money all across the economy

I don't really think there's an unequivocal take-home point here, and I can't see it persuading a Labour voter desu.
Corbynomics is too much of a mystery magic at the moment, it's hard to predict where it'd leave us.
I'll bet the markets take a dip if it looks like he's getting in, though.
>Corbyn getting in
It'd take some fucking gymnastics, whoo boy.

Proofs?

youtu.be/6JeYlBRvUeE

if all the gps have no computers or medical histories is there anything good i can go and ask for like cocaine or something

Well, no. Saudi buys lots of UK exports. We buy one of Saudis only exports.

It's a simple matter of acting in our mutual interests.

Definitely, I agree the last labour government wasn't terrible, despite itself. My point is the Tories are not just "out to serve the needs of the rich".

Coalition talks are such bullshit.
Every single time, they'll "rule out" or "not on the table", and I don't think it really means anything.
After the fucking ConDem coalition, anything is possible, let's be honest.
Come on LibLabGreenSnip!

>Tories with their UKIP loving rebellious backbenchers
>??
>Working with Greens and SNP instead of
UKIP
There's already loads of lefty splinter parties. See pic related

The liberal, pro-immigration, pro-multiculturalism, pro-EU and every other left wing view of the past and present tory party?

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You lads do realise that the rich will always get richer than the poor as capital is mobile and a better return is always achievable on capital than GDP growth, right?

So why aren't you lads buying shares and using FundingCircle?

Blast from the past.

youtube.com/watch?v=KUDjRZ30SNo

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I'm attracted to 54 different genders, and identify as 12
I need help lads

I-Is that a trick of the lighting, or did they give Nige a different coloured lectern?
Did he ask for a pure white one?

I just watched the last question time, what the fuck were they thinking.

>snp
>remainer
>remainer tory
>remainer (literally who) old fuck actor
>qt economy lady

One of the worst episodes in a while

Only a few Conservatives are all of those things. Find me 100 Tory MPs this applies to.

I'll wait.