Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
>I have never worked a day in my life. or >I want gibmedats now!
Ryder White
Wrong, capitalism is a complete failure
Jackson Rogers
Is that why every communist country has failed and either collapsed or relied on private enterprise to take over? Communists 100% failure rate isn't something to brag about.
Landon Ramirez
>communism has resulted in genocide 100% of the times it has been attempted >communism has caused the deaths of over 100M in the last century, more than any other ideology ever >but capitalism is the failure!!!! lewl, friend
Communism is for weak willed faggots who are unable to understand that it will always 100% of the time become a dictatorship.
Nathaniel Torres
shut your mouth before you end up face down in a trench
Nathan Smith
Fuck off Mongolian faggot I want the Spanish commieposter back
Jacob Robinson
...
Ryder Martin
>communism has resulted in genocide 100% of the times it has been attempted Wrong
>communism has caused the deaths of over 100M in the last century, more than any other ideology ever Wrong and wrong, those numbers never were proven right and capitalism holds that record
>but capitalism is the failure!!!! It in fact is, world debt is so high it's unsustainable, crash is here soon.
Pekka, you are, in reality, Vladimir. Please leave your comfy student chalet in Lappeenranta and go back to St. Petersburg, where your daddy pays for everything as he is a corrupt, Putin-cock-sucker aparatchik.
Ayden Evans
Why was communism so successful, comrades?
Henry Gray
>Wrong I guess if you consider current year china communism (even though it is very capitalistic). They just live in a totalitarian dystopia where yo get thrown in jail for dissenting.
>Wrong and wrong Literally fact. Even if you half that number, it is way more than fascism. And capitalism has resulted in exactly 0 genocides because it doesn't force people into an ideology/ethnicity.
>crash here soon A communist dictatorship sounds sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better.
Benjamin Collins
>that anatomy and perspective
Justin Reyes
>And capitalism has resulted in exactly 0 genocides AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA post discarded and ID filtered, I'm talking to a dumbass
Aaron Nguyen
[citation needed]
Leo Sanders
>because it doesn't force people into an ideology/ethnicity. wut
Elijah Morgan
he really is a shame to the finnish identity. my grandfather and great uncle purged the reds in talvisota and left them as fertilizer
Ryan Green
>cant counter my point >better filter him lol, nice. Sure helps convince people you aren't a literal subhuman when you don't provide any evidence or even counterpoints.
Julian Thomas
when you mass industrialize a fuedal farmer country it tends to have high growths in industry. how about you show the raw numbers and not the percentages
Daniel Fisher
>commies >kill you or throw you into gulag for dissent >capitalists >meh, whatever, dissent if you want
also, the fact you're even allowed to make posts like OP and have organizations like antifa prove my point
Brody Powell
fuck off mongol
Robert Lee
Nigger read your own post
>I guess if you consider current year china communism (even though it is very capitalistic). They just live in a totalitarian dystopia where yo get thrown in jail for dissenting. >china >capitalistic >get thrown in jail for dissenting
Yeah that sure is "whatever, dissent if you want"
Jaxson Ortiz
hes a rape baby. not finn
Aiden Taylor
Tito's was pretty based. I don't get why if commies have to praise a guy why not him instead of failures like Mao.
Carson Peterson
Debt isn't a capitalist issue. Socialist and communist counties borrow money all the time. Otherwise they would crumble if that year was a bad year for trading.
Evan Taylor
China relies on capitalism for its economy because full communism doesnt fucking work. Capitalism has literally nothing to do with what China does to dissenters, it is mostly communist when it comes to your every day citizen.
Where's the Spurdo poster? I always come to these threads for the Spurdo poster
Nathan Brown
I'd probably have an easier time accepting Marxism if it came in the form of technocracy and not neo-liberal Marxism. Communism needs to work on actually targeting the lower working class instead of just middle class Uni students.
It's Marxist in nature, but served as more of a technocracy instead of straight up Marxism. Also, can anyone tell me why Communism never embraced religious people? I understand that Communism is against religion, but it seems completely pointless to be honest. Religious people typically view the love of money as a bad thing and would be more supportable of Communism if there religious beliefs weren't being attacked by it.
Easton Thomas
North Korea needs to use electrified fences, landmines, and snipers to stop its citizens to escape. It's such a shithole it needs to make propaganda cities which no one lives in just to appear successful.
Isaac Gonzalez
>China relies on capitalism for its economy >it is mostly communist when it comes to your every day citizen What? You know that people in china use money and buy things/get paid in it, right? That's inherently not communism
Not to mention North Korea scrubbed out all references to Marxism from their lingo ages ago and took down all of the portraits to Marx and Engels. If it isn't a Kim it isn't worthy of discussion there.
His name was Hans-Georg Henke, in his later life he realized that nazis were bad and became a communist, living in East Germany until his death
Isaiah Williams
...
William Scott
The only way a currency free world would work is with technology/AI slaves that do not require any kind of freedoms, and a tiny group of higher ups organizing everything.
Money is necessary in any society with any kind of freedom at all. Communist regimes have money because they need a way for people to express their individuality and feel like they are actually working towards something.
Benjamin Bailey
>being that delusional
Tyler Bailey
Thats more of an argument for communism not being feasible, and not so much an argument for china being communist....
Christopher Nelson
Meh. Communism has and will forever be a failed experiment.
Austin White
So all sources are from Lenin do you read what happened when all that was put in place? Please read the Gulag archipelago it is available in audiobook on YouTube it's about 80 hours but worth it and then come back and restate your argument. Utopian thinking leads to hell to rid the world of bullies you need a bigger bully to have no sick you end up killing huge parts of the populations
Michael Walker
>Learning soviet history by reading anti-soviet fiction novel Excellent
