Hillary wouldn't demolish the US healthcare system even further and threaten to take millions out of health insurance
Hillary wouldn't hire Garry Cohn (the president of goldman sachs) to be the director of the national economic council
Hillary wouldn't remove net-neutrality like what trump is doing right now
Hillary wouldn't remove internet privacy protections (every single democrat in the senate voted against this, every single republican voted in FAVOR of removing internet privacy protections)
Hillary wouldn't cut the EPA by 30%, cut government programs to help homeless people, cut "meals on wheels" to help old poor people have food, cut the labor department and cut the education department while increasing funds for the defense department (aka more intervention in the middle east, yay!)
Hillary wouldn't put Betsy Devos, a christian fundamentalist school privatizer, as the secretary of education
Hillary wouldn't try to to crack down even harder on marijuana like what Jeff Session is doing right now
i agree that trump is bad but hillary would literally be communism and death camps level of bad
Oliver Hill
1/10 bait Sage
William Allen
I'm with you, it's a nightmare.
Nicholas Carter
>Hillary >The most right wing democrat in existence, with a voting record that could have easily been a voting record of a republican >Communism
Jordan Fisher
you mean globalism? that's communism
sadly trump doesn't seem to be much better in that regard
Isaac Torres
>you mean globalism? that's communism nigga u retarded as hell
David Lewis
Globalism is a generalistic umbrella term, not a policy position. some globalistic things are bad and some globalistic things are good.
Case in point: The internet is a globalistic phenomenon, and its a good thing. i don't want the internet to be seperated by country.
Outsourcing is also galobalistic, but this time its an example for a negative globalistic policy.
And this is why railing against "globalism" instead of specific policies is really fucking retarded. not every co-operation between nations is a bad thing
Joseph Allen
Millions of people lost legit healthcare under Obamacare, and millions more won't be able to get it due to exchanges closing. My $685/mo premium means that I will have to go out over $15K a year before I would recover a dime, why is this called "affordable". You Obamacare shills need to be necked for your lies and destruction of American Healthcare!
Samuel Sullivan
Listen child, if you don't understand economics you should shut your mouth and not talk.
Premiums are not increasing because of obamacare. just look at this chart, premiums increased ever since 1999. all Obamacare did was INCREASING the amount of insured people, not decrease it
i'm really sorry to reveal to you the fact the republican party was lying to you
Like, how the fuck can you still argue with me? the net number of uninsured people dropped since obamacare was implemented, this alone makes your argument completely invalid
Jacob Lewis
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Joseph Smith
If looking at facts makes you this mad, maybe you should reconsider your political ideology
Juan Russell
(((facts)))
Elijah Ortiz
yeah, you learned a lot NIGGER, especially which macro combination don't work. Thanks for a pro Trump thread in disguise. I hope you will join in July
Dominic Jackson
Partisan doesn't like loyal opposition's policies. Yup, Ok.
Ryder Garcia
>Millions of Niggers and Diabetos on the dole leaching already fleeting tax revenue, contributing nothing >"Buh more peepul insured!" >States like Iowa set to have 0 providers for some areas starting in 2018 >Premiums skyrocketing exponentially in correlation with the induction of Soterocare >"How can you even argue?!?!"
The eternal jew NEVER quits.
Ryan Moore
Do you see your sister in this picture?
Cooper Myers
>Thanks for completely ignoring my chart which proved premium were increasing much before obamacare was implemented.
I didn't ignore it... I not only replied to it I AGREED....
This has absolutely no water to hold for you. Supply and demand. This is like saying that if we're running out of oil, and the price keeps going up you say "Of course the price is increasing, but not because there is less oil, it's increasing because of lack of access"
> Like, how the fuck can you still argue with me? the net number of uninsured people dropped since obamacare was implemented, this alone makes your argument completely invalid
Because the fact that more people recieve FREE services with LESS doctors, and LESS hospitals means HIGHER costs.
SUPPLY AND DEMAND!
Austin Powell
Please explain to me what is your methodology to determine whether something is true or not.
Actually, you don't need to explain it to me, we both already know the answer: if something contradicts your preconceived notions, you declare that its not a fact, and if something fits your preconceived notions you declare that it's definitely a fact.
Calling this type of behavior intellectual dishonesty would be an understatement. it would more appropriate to call this a delusion
Kayden Garcia
>muh "let's be cereal guys, Hillary was the right choith"
Logan Wood
>Implying we care about any of that We voted for Trump just to piss off leftist, and he's doing that perfectly.
Julian Gray
Listen budy, i already completely debunked your argument twice in this thread.
Instead of destroying your argument a third time, i will just remind you Trump has expanded weapon sales to saudi arabia and he is now allowing selling to the saudis types of weapons even obama was allowing
Xavier Rivera
I'm long past "argue with leftists rationally" stage. It simply doesn't work. Cannot work. The only antidote against you is terrifying violence.
Juan Morgan
He's right, you're retarded
Jordan Brown
>Oh shit he made a really good point! i cannot respond to this
>Oh wait i know what i will do!! "Leftists bad! right wingers good!"
>hehehehe i really showed him!
Noah Stewart
Disgusting baitposter. Goodbye
Kevin Sullivan
Everybody knows what you stand for. None of your points or arguments are relevant.
Dominic Foster
>muh obamacare >muh net neutrality your complaints are weaksauce. who do you think you're convincing?
Josiah Wood
>he types, the cold light from the monitor illuminating his grotesque face and cheeto stained hands >"cant wait to kill all these fuckin libs when muh rope day" he thinks as he reaches for another piss jug
Thomas King
don't talk about it. Just do it. As you say, no reason to talk with lefties. They don't work according to human logic. Removing the infected brains without getting infected is the goal, that implies not talking to them
Henry Flores
Alright then. What's about the argument that Trump expanded weapon sales to saudi arabia?
I'm actually principled, so im against selling more weapons to the saudis regardless of who does it. what's about you? do you support trump on this move?
I will be laughing my ass off when Cletus&Co. finally go apeshit and shoa your ass, Chaim.
Chase Rogers
>Hillary wouldn't demolish the US healthcare system even further and threaten to take millions out of health insurance
No she would have increased it so I get taxed even more to provide abortions on demand.
Adrian Miller
Please respond to the fact Trump expanded weapon sales to Saudi Arabia.
Are you in favor of this or against this?
Andrew Allen
>No broken up links >no archive >flag you are a moron, get out
Dominic Russell
Asking stupid questions Take your Survey somewhere else YID
Isaac Reed
Why are you having so much trouble getting through your skull that I give zero fucks about Trump? I just hate you and your ilk. I know you'll shill against anything remotely right-wing in full force regardless of any facts.
Josiah Butler
Tax payer money does fund abortions. please read the laws of your own goddamn country
>Listen budy, i already completely debunked your argument twice in this thread.
You didn't debunk anything. Quite literally nothing.
>Instead of destroying your argument a third time, i will just remind you Trump has expanded weapon sales to saudi arabia and he is now allowing selling to the saudis types of weapons even obama was allowing
Ok..... Did you take your seroquel this morning?
Nathan Mitchell
>not breaking up a link >no archive GET OUT
Jeremiah Evans
And why do you hate me?
"Ohh he is against Netanyahu occupying more Palestinian land. how spooky! im spooked"
Nathaniel Wood
>Why are you having so much trouble getting through your skull that I give zero fucks about Trump? I just hate you and your ilk. I know you'll shill against anything remotely right-wing in full force regardless of any facts.
I used to wonder as a kid why my family converted from Judaism and it wasn't until I became an adult that it finally hit me. And it wasn't until I came here that I know they made the right decision.
Xavier Ortiz
>Shillary presidency >with house and senate under republicans
Yeah good luck with those dreams.
Joseph Ward
>Stupid Question >Not able to self reflect GET OUT, be the bigger man end your life
Luis Morgan
I will show you exactly where i debunked your arguments.
1. in this post i showed you obamacare has nothing to do with the fact the premiums are increasing 2, In this post i showed you that the net number of uninsured people has decreased ever since obamacare was implemented You got rekt, destroyed and annihilated. go home, kid
Liam Reed
>And why do you hate me? Refer to some of the pictures I posted above for examples. I would literally vote for a Jewish Hitler to put you and your families in concentration camps.
Joshua Hernandez
Well man, it's not my fault that you are a suicidal moron.
I wish you were smarter
Nolan Jackson
Just kill yourself, you disgusting leftist subhuman.
Brandon Hughes
what is so hard to understand about GET OUT? You will not spread your virus here. your Virus will at some point destroy itself if you keep coming here. That is what the black pill is, and jews who lose their mind Virus die, literally
Ian Gutierrez
>1. in this post i showed you obamacare has nothing to do with the fact the premiums are increasing.
What is increased exponentially for 500 Alex...
> 2, In this post i showed you that the net number of uninsured people has decreased ever since obamacare was implemented
Do you know what a supply and a demand curve is? No... The end.
Costs before obamacare rising at about 10-15% per annum, cost rises AFTER 30-55%.
GEEE golly mus be magic massah.
Owen Phillips
My IQ is 136~140, which puts me in the top 1% of the population. when i was in highschool i studied in one of the highest classes in the country, which is the class for gifted students in "Hakfar Hayarok"
Isn't this the complete opposite of a "subhuman"?
Aiden Bell
No. Hillary said she favored pre-Heller gun law interpretation of the constitution. She would have appointed a scotus judge accordingly. If the only thing trump did is get a conservative judge it still beats Hillary. Trump saved the second amendment, at least for a while.
Wyatt Williams
Time stamped pic of psychological approved test (no not online) or GTFO
Colton Bailey
Bud I make more in a month than you do a year. You're a loser fucking heeb weeb. Let's post or tax returns.
Evan Wright
>israel flag >calling anyone chaim >spreading bait like you're trying to chum the waters
Low energy trolling. Sad!
Jace Anderson
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Cooper Price
>Premiums increased before obamacare, but obamacare is the cause of the premiums increasing :3
Lmao
Isaac Bell
answer your brother, post tax return psych test and grades from "special need" class
Cameron Reed
>My IQ is 136~140 Mhmm, and mine is 180~185 and I'm a fighter jet pilot with over 6,000,000 confirmed Palestinian kills. Kill yourself, subhuman.
Blake Nguyen
If voting made any difference, (((they))) wouldn’t let us do it
Connor Gomez
>>Premiums increased before obamacare, but obamacare is the cause of the premiums increasing :3
I NEVER said once premiums weren't increasing................................................... I SAID THE RATE AT WHICH THEY INCREASED CHANGE YOU DOLT.
Caleb Morgan
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William Jones
I don't have the papers in hand, and even if i did i don't have a webcam to show them.
But you know user, if you honestly protect Sup Forums, which is a containment board for low-iq posters, maybe you should reconsider how you view the world
Brandon Flores
How can you be so retarded?
David Howard
It was mandated. Negroid was literally telling people GET MY INSURANCE OR ILL TAX THE FUCK OUT OF YOU.its great that more people are insured but I'm positive these people had the financial means of having insurance before, they just weren't smart or motivated enough to get it themselves
Ethan Sullivan
Why is a Jew posting Merchants? Do you not find them insulting? If not do you like this merchant?
Elijah Rivera
Why, yes, one of the most corrupt individuals currently existing would certainly be better.
Isaiah Perez
>claims to have an IQ above 90 >refuses to provide proof >thinks anyone is going to buy it You've literally just proven yourself to be a retard.
David Watson
>its great that more people are insured but I'm positive these people had the financial means of having insurance before, they just weren't smart or motivated enough to get it
No, it's not great because it basically means we have to pay for them now for the mistakes they made, and now will continue to make because there is no consequences.
On top of that there is now less, and less doctors handling more and more patients.
Imagine a world in which the food supply is dwindling, and someone says well the problem isn't the amount of food, the problem is many people don't have access to more food.
That is what you're saying. It's simple supply and demand.
Cooper James
Look at this graph.
The rate at which premiums were increasing is almost a straight line. how intellectually dishonest can you be to ignore this fact?
Christian Ramirez
>Why is a Jew posting Merchants? Your merchant is okay-tier.
Ethan Edwards
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William White
Forgot to post the graph.
Aniway, just watch this: The rate at which premiums were increasing is almost a straight line. how intellectually dishonest can you be to ignore this fact?
Benjamin Flores
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Ian Reed
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Thomas Morales
>he rate at which premiums were increasing is almost a straight line.
Speak English, that statement means absolutely nothing.
Christ, I think I'm dealing with a fucking drop out.
Tell you what bud -- when you can make a half million a year - let's talk. Until then you're a 15 year old communist with serious brain damage. You cannot even accept basic tenets of mathematics, much less more complicated and nuanced points like rate of increase.
YES, I'll have fries with that Chaim. Make it snappy.
Blake Nelson
Furthermore, even if obamacare was responsible for increasing the premiums (which it isn't), it doesn't change the fact the number of uninsured people has decreased
So really your argument fails twice: 1. Obamacare is not the reason the premiums are increasing
2. Even if it was, there are still more people who are insured compared to before obamacare
Elijah Perez
so edgy bro
Grayson Rogers
Watch this graph and you will see what im talking about
Elijah King
Would you care for a live debate on facebook kike? I'll show my face, you show yours? I have considerable data from the industry which I could prove shows the increase is a supply and demand metric?
Tell you what I'll even throw in 5k in bitcoin if you do it. Right now. Not in 2-3 hours, or tomorrow. RIGHT NOW.
Chill negro I'm no advocate for social healthcare because it takes away personal accountability. I was pointing out that the increase in coverage had to do with the fact that Obamacare was MANDATED (sign up or else).
Chase Moore
I'm not going to post my facebook in Sup Forums.
Honestly, its shocking to me that you support Trump's healthcare plan which lets states remove coverage for people with pre-existing conditions. aka if you are in a red state and you have a pre-existing condition say goodbye to your health insurance
Insurers are bleeding red and leaving the exchanges, this means fewer available programs you fucking mouthbreather.
This is the reason why Obamacare was a failure, people didn't buy into it and now there are fewer options available because of it. They would rather take the penalty than pay the premium because it is cheaper to do so.
Jackson Campbell
>coverage for people with pre-existing conditions Do you understand how a fair health insurance system is supposed work?
I already showed you two charts which showed the premiums were dramatically increasing much before obamacare was in place.
But let's say that obamacare made the premiums rise even more. let's assume that is the case. it doesn't change the fact that there are millions of people who are covered only because of obamacare you fucking retard
>Trump and republicans are making death panels real You told me Obama was going to be responsible for that
Jordan Flores
>Hillary wouldn't demolish the US healthcare system even further and threaten to take millions out of health insurance
Literally demolishing a turd
>Hillary wouldn't hire Garry Cohn (the president of goldman sachs) to be the director of the national economic council
No, She'd hire Muhammed ibn Kaboom
>Hillary wouldn't remove net-neutrality like what trump is doing right now
(citation needed)
>Hillary wouldn't remove internet privacy protections (every single democrat in the senate voted against this, every single republican voted in FAVOR of removing internet privacy protections)
(citation needed)
>Hillary wouldn't cut the EPA by 30%, cut government programs to help homeless people, cut "meals on wheels" to help old poor people have food, cut the labor department and cut the education department while increasing funds for the defense department (aka more intervention in the middle east, yay!)
Feed the homeless or murder brown people. HMM
>Hillary wouldn't put Betsy Devos, a christian fundamentalist school privatizer, as the secretary of education
She's not trying to privatize schools, she's giving an option to not join a nigger-infested, worthless public school.
>Hillary wouldn't try to to crack down even harder on marijuana like what Jeff Session is doing right now
Who the fuck gives a shit about something only losers put in their bodies?
Samuel Roberts
Here is a person who voted and campaigned for republicans his entire life, who decided to personally thank obama because obamacare literally saved his life:
This person would have been dead without obamacare, you heartless shill. please go home and rethink your life
Brayden Sanders
>it doesn't change the fact that there are millions of people who are covered only because of obamacare you fucking retard Like a typical subhuman, you're conflating factual discussions with your own subjective value judgments. How do you figure that one should necessarily feel comforted that niggers and nigger-tier people are now insured while their premium keeps rising to ridiculous levels?
Leo Lopez
>But let's say that obamacare made the premiums rise even more. let's assume that is the case. it doesn't change the fact that there are millions of people who are covered only because of obamacare you fucking retard
Obamacare invented medicare.... What a fucking genius -- so before that people couldn't go get care from a hospital.
By the way keep posting the chart that shows prices BEFORE obamacare went into effect.