What's really difference between Communism and National Socialism?
>authoritarian regimes >moustached cult of personality >death camps >militarist imperialism >hate the jewish banking serpents >traditionalist and anti-degenerate >pagan humanism >cool symbolism >hierarchical societal structure >state capitalism >fascism >both german ideas >popular with young adults and old people >responsible for ww2 by dividing poland and cooperating by molotov-ribbentrop pakt
Communism is international where as national socialism is national
Ian Cooper
Communism = the state owns your property
NatSoc = you can have your own property
Camden Parker
>Communism >traditionalist and anti-degenerate >hierarchical societal structure HAHAHAHHA good one
Cameron Kelly
Unless your Stalin, in which case Communism isn't international
Ryder Myers
>popular with young adults and old people
Not in America, baby boomers really hate them
Liberals and conservatives are the real dictators
William Roberts
Stalinism feels more like fascism than socialism desu.
Levi Nelson
>Nazism >very traditional and very anti-degenerate >white straight Christian men on top (like 1950s America, but New Deal Democrat socialist too)
Dylan Gonzalez
Communism seizes private property, National Socialism protects it. Communism believes in equality of the "proletariat" and creates a single class, National Socialism says the nation is one people but are made up of several classes and have their differences that must be acknowledged. Communism strictly controls the economy and dictates wages, National Socialism allows free market (albeit regulated a bit) and workers are paid according to the work they do. Honest work, honest wage, no interest.
>fucking massive army built to spread communism to all of the world before Barbarossa k Stalin's regime only started playing up the nationalist side after Germany invaded. Suddenly it went from "workers of the world unite!" to "defend the motherland, mother rushaaaaaaa!"
Kevin Davis
>What's really difference between Communism and National Socialism? To name a few: >NS - nationalism based on race, not internationalism based on "class" >Communism - race doesn't exist, workers of the world must rule over all other classes, dictatorship of the proletariat >NS - Christianity is the official state religion >Communism - atheism is the state religion >NS - economic inequality is permitted, the race and nation are one >Communism - class war, inequality is punished, kulaks must die >NS - private property is encouraged, producer capitalism is favored, international finance is forbidden >Communism - private property forbidden, without loans from international bankers communism would never have started or existed for long >NS - race is real, gender difference is real, women should be mothers before being laborers, marriage is the foundation of society >Communism - marriage non-existent, women are "equal" laborers to men, communal parenting, polyamory, degeneracy >NS - the state sells off all its holdings in industry to private corporations >Communism - all industries are taken and run by the state, through jewish party bosses who suck Glorious Leader's dick Hope that helped.
Andrew Ortiz
Commie shills leave
Hunter Gomez
I didn't know Croatians were this retarded
Mason Gutierrez
They're different in practice but exactly the same in results: Irrelevant and extinct
Daniel Morales
>thinks communism is extinct >lives in western-style cultural marxist Fabian communist hell You must be new.
Communism killed more of their own people without fighting in wars.
Luke Ramirez
>communism >German idea lol
Henry Butler
anti-liberal russians and germans. communism doesn't exist with a state. anyone who believes that fell for soviet and american propaganda. national socialism was initially for worker solidarity through nationalism rather than leftist socialism which is solidarity through class consciousness
Ethan Foster
> National Socialism protects private property > National Socialism allows free market except fascist nationalised a shit ton of companies through every industries and forced them to unite into entities serving the Reich. Much like Soviets did. Only difference was that Nazis had a puppet ownership, meaning the owner would have to bite the dust if he couldn't fulfill state's set requirements that came first before private property. There was only one state entity that decided how much workers were paid, what were the labour laws and how many holidays they would have. They also limited who could participate in labour market.
Jayden Collins
You forgot that both will destroy your economy and your shitty country will collapse.
That's why it's so funny to watch these skanky commies and autistic nationalists fight each other at places like Berkeley.
Benjamin Gomez
> >fucking massive army built to spread communism to all of the world before Barbarossa k Stalin's regime only started playing up the nationalist side after Germany invaded. Suddenly it went from "workers of the world unite!" to "defend the motherland, mother rushaaaaaaa!"
I think it was more "This shit isn't working outside of Russia, so fuck it, it's staying inside" And some guy called Trosky didn't like that, but he lost the powerplay and got kicked out. But I didn't study this part of history too well, so.....Yeah, I got gaps in my knowledge XD
Caleb Bell
ns = social darwinistic based on race ideology communism =all people should be equal ideology
day and night, german-soviet war was the biggest in history because the ideologies couldn't be any more different in their ideals and goals, bait thread
Jackson Lewis
Is this post bait?
Ethan Butler
80-85% of the Bolsheviks were Jews.
Aaron Miller
based on study of communist manifesto and mein kampf.
Connor Flores
>What's really difference between Communism and National Socialism? not much
Socialists don't require equality, only control of means of production. Communism requires control of means of production plus "attempts" to create equality of outcomes.
Samuel Myers
It's a difference of who owns capital. In a Communist society, capital is owned by the workers, or in the transitional people a government with the consent of workers.
E.g., >The unions/soviets control the capital. The state/workers eventually agree on how the capital should be employed, and then does so. >The workers/capital holders/state are one, consequences of this are handled as they arrive as the state has an essential monopoly
National Socialism as it was practiced was more akin to corporatism. Capital tended to be owned privately. The state gave priority, monopoly, and supply to certain industries deemed important by the state while many other industries were simply left to fend for themselves. Price controls, labor, and federal programs ran in a more syndacated fashion.
>Business A can't afford to run with the current profit margins. >State A agrees to protect their profit margins by reducing taxes, or subsidizing, whatever Or >State A claims that workers in Industry B are being mistreated through their union/bargaining programs >Industry B agrees to improve conditions or else they risk losing government support
It's difficult to say what a post war National Socialist state would look like; I would honestly point to Sweden pre-cuckening.