Scandinavian countries

Please explain to me how are they so rich yet socialist pricks?
I mean seriously where are they geting their money from?
>Export?
Then how can they compeat with other nations oruducts if they are
>Taxed in sweeden
>Worker wages also taxed
>That makes bigger price for products
>Competition in international trading is MUCH harder
Okay i can understand the norwegians who are oil niggers and take money from oil but what about sweeden and denmark?

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>it's a "latvian Sup Forumsack with shitty grammar makes a retarded thread" episode

>social =/= socialist

get your facts straight

Fuck off cunt!

Then why did sanders brag about scandinavs so much?
Also wheren't there taxes like 60%?

They are highly productive nations that re-distribute their earnings in a fair way.

Are you aware Latvia belonged to Sweden in the 8th century?

Are you aware that a Swedish company today owns 2% of your total landmass?

Just a few fun facts.

Europe is generally more left-wing than the US.

Not even the right-wing party in Germany argues against basic welfare and universal health care.

We are humanists. That's our strength and our weakness..

Yeah but before economy has reached western standarts it would be foolish to rise taxes like in western europe right?

He's senile

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>Are you aware Latvia belonged to Sweden in the 8th century?
not that early sven, you owned Northern Latvia and Riga 17th of century i beleave?After Germans had owned it for 700 years before you.
>Are you aware that a Swedish company today owns 2% of your total landmass?
No i didn't know that, but you know what i do know?
That swedbank fucked our economy a bit in 2006 thank you.

Yeah but tax are higher there then on average european country.

Germany and the US had very high tax rates right from the start (after WW2).

High top tax rates worked quite well, until financial globalization made them unappealing.

me good englich from latvian eduqation

No I am not talking about the Swedish Empire. I am talking about the 8th century. The Swedes (Sveonerna, Svear) ruled what was called Kurland, today Latvia.

But how are big tax rates eaven working?
Expecialy in countries like germany who's main income comes from export?

No Scandinavia country is socialist, and Denmarks government actually gave Bernie shit because he kept calling them socialist, it's a common trait among burgers to not know what the fuck they're talking about.

Nordic industries are able to compete just like german industry, it's advanced and highly specialized. Every child in Bangladesh can make t-shirts but you have to actually be educated to produce cars/advanced weapon systems/various tech jobs etc.

I can't speak for Finland, Norway and Denmark, but here in Sweden corporate taxes are actually quite low, at least by European standards, also high taxes aren't a bad thing if they're properly spent. A healthy, secure and happy society is a productive society.

I didn't know that
But then again eaven if so at that point Kurlandians where not the same as Latvians, we became the same when teutons smashed all the baltic tribes togeather.
youtube.com/watch?v=_5f7WXlGxZ4

Please explain then.

>Corporate tax is low
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Then sanders fucked up bigly!
Okay i see but then again you mean to say that main income from sweeden comes from export?

The state doesn't simply hoard the money it taxes, it invests it in a way that makes the economy grow. Germany has free universities, lots of infrastructure and a top-notch job education system.

The state is the largest buyer and spender in any economy. Be it Germany or the US.
In Scandinavia, the government is especially transparent and efficient, spending for the greater good.

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I would argue that it is a mix of:

>High education, literacy etc
>extremely low corruption
>Until lately very homogenous
>Sweden was never in ww2
>Norway have oil
>Denmark have dat sweet Bang olufsen

semigallian master race reporting in

>The state doesn't simply hoard the money it taxes, it invests it in a way that makes the economy grow. Germany has free universities, lots of infrastructure and a top-notch job education system.
It still dosen't explain it, if your taxes are so high, then the price of producation skyrockets, and selling things is harder.
Sure you can beat that with quality but then again there is Japan who is also a car producer of high quality and if they make their taxes lower on producation and workers and compeat against germany no one would buy german cars and would buy japanise instead.

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Vidzfagg here

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What is that?

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Stockholm

Is this art thread now?
pic:Kurlandian colonisation of new world.

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Why are you posting it though?
It's not related to the thread m8

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A ship that was so shitty engineered by a king who knew nothing about how to build ships so it sank after some hundred meters.

circlejerk thread now.

You see, Nordic countries are (((they))).

Norwegians export oil to humanitarily dubious countries and North korea. Danes have monopoly over childrens toys/propaganda and Sweden is becoming worlds sink hole for money.


We finns get our wealth from Nokia and its telecommunication patents + dirt it has collected on world leaders over the years. Nokias collapse wasnt a mistake, it was a inside job because cutting phone business was the least profitable branch.


How else do you think were upholding standards of living?

> if they make their taxes lower on producation and workers and compeat against germany no one would buy german cars and would buy japanise instead
No, that's not how that works, lower taxation doesn't necessarily mean lower product prices for the public. The topic of how taxes are calculated is extensive and complicated and varies between different countries and industries.

I'm amazed that you think Sup Forums is going to give you a lecture on this, if you're actually interested in the topic you should read a relevant book.

>if you're actually interested in the topic you should read a relevant book.
Yeah i hoped to get a quick answer but i gues not
Any good book sugestions?

/lit/

>WW2 happens
>Scandinavian countries stay out of it for the most part
>don't have their industry and infrastructure repeatedly carpet-bombed
>come out of the war as strong manufacturing economies with head start on European belligerents who are in ruins
>use wealth to expand social programs
>this works pretty well until around the mid 80s-mid 90s
>keep overtaxing business and industry
>companies leave
>manufacturers outsource
>govt. wastes all the tax money
>get population hooked on cheap loans to maintain high standard of living
>keep raising the taxes
>give repeatedly worse service
>meme other countries into thinking you're rich

This is how the Scandinavian model operates.

Because hes an idiot who believes uneducated burger memes. Guy probably thinks Venezuela is a socialist utopia.

I can't recommend a book but you can get started here, I guess: investopedia.com/terms/t/taxes.asp

wew

Thanks

because we still run a market economy

Yes, we definitely can't compete in the production of simple cheap items. Most of our biggest companies design highly technological products that are based on generations of specialized knowledge within different fields such as windpower, container-ships, medical equipment, pharma, audio solutions, Lego, etc.. Many of these companies will have the production outsourced but they will have management and their knowledge workers positioned in Denmark.

Im not sure if I understand the question correctly, why would production costs skyrocket if you have high income tax?

But anyways, its a complex issue, but there are other explanations. You also have to look at rich as in large economy vs rich per capita. The nordic countries arent huge economies but rich per capita, this could have to with large landmasses and low population density, all economies are essentially export based etc. We have also strong institutions and trust in them, strong property rights etc.

>Most of our biggest companies design highly technological products that are based on generations of specialized knowledge

>Lego

Denmarks biggest engineering achievement I agree

ITT: Latvians trying to figure out why they have disfunctional societies.

hint: you.

We're not socialists, we merely use a few socialistic ideologies.

bernie is a retard

I'm working on it but my alcohol infused brain can't make a noose.

I see now, i wached one video on it, they where talking about germany where families after war started their buisnesses and made high quality products, and now economy is standing moastly on those old family buisnesses.But that also comes with price that means that making new buisnesses is harder.

Actualy your explanation is best one on this moment.

Honestly, Lego has been one of the biggest pioneers within the plastic industry which has led to many smaller plastic-specialized companies: packaging, medical equipment, composite material for ex windmill wings. The amount of engineering in those tiny bricks is incredible.

>We are humanists. That's our strength and our weakness..
Nah you guys just try to find new ways to take control of Europe. Now it has to do with the euro and refugees.

Im not arguing with you, they are the closest thing to engineering while still being a "toy" I can imagine.

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We're white, we have oil.

Fuck off we're full.

>We're white
So are we and eaven more 99.9% white country
>we have oil.
So what we have wood
>Fuck off we're full.
Never said i whant to move there

>So what we have wood
everyone has wood but most people dont want to bother with the hassle of having a gassifier strapped to the back of their car.

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Yes, making new simple companies e.g. kiosk, restaurant, car-wash, etc., can be tough - but this is a trend we are seeing in most societies as big companies gets more effective and increases the barrier of entry and the profitability in these sectors.
What mainly drives the making of new companies is that the big companies spawns the need of a lot specialized suppliers. These specialized suppliers will sometimes become the leaders within their fields and may grow to be the new big companies.

immense wealth was made during more conservative times.
And while we are de facto socialist by now. It is still a fairly mild form of that particular national illness. So it takes time, but unless a change is made we will desend into economical disaster in due time.

man premature balding came early back in the day

I see but thats a uniq way of westernised economy, that is the same thing what video was talking about, you can't duplicate it, it comes naturaly, the only way to start and help making this kind of sistem is to make taxes low as possible then new companies will spark into existance and only then taxes can be slowly be put higher, so best tactic of countries like my own (E soviets that have not yet reached western standarts) is to make sure that taxes are low.

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officially yes. But look at gubbymint spending vs private spending and a gloomy image will manifest. This is a fairly recent development, no i tell a lie, this is a development that has been going on for a long time. But the turnover point is quite recent.

I must confess that i don't know enough about Latvia to make an intelligent answer in that regard. However I don't think that there is an universal answer in the success of a country. Every country has its strategic strengths and weaknesses that it needs to utilize in the best way possible.

I see now, anyways thank you.

You also have to remove corruption and make sure people are hired and promoted by competence

A corporate tax of 22% helps. Also a general high level of education. Also Mærsk, LEGO, Novo Nordisk.

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Our is 21%

Well thats the hard part we still have a lot of commies in powert who are corupt as hell, not as bad as in russia and other ex soviet states but still.

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