Social Nationalist General - /sng/

This is a thread for the discussion of anti-capitalist nationalism. We support the establishment of a workers state free of capitalist materialism and degeneracy.

Welcome:
Strasserists
Fascists
National Bolsheviks
National Syndicalists
National Socialists
Juchists
Jamahiriya
Ba'athists
Tankies/Stalinists
Peronists
Anyone who is interested in revolutionary nationalism.

Not Welcome:
(((Lolbertardians)))
(((capitalists)))
(((anarchists))) left or right leaning

Websites of interest:
Institute for National Revolutionary Studies:
institutenr.org/
Revolutionary National Socialism (Strasserism):
revolutionarynationalsocialism.wordpress.com/
Third Positionist National Revolutionary Forum:
thirdpositionist.freeforums.net/
Socialist workers party of England:
socialistworkerspartyengland.blogspot.com/
The Fourth Political Theory:
4pt.su/

Essential reading:
Germany Tomorrow by Otto Strasser:
archive.org/stream/germanytomorrow019874mbp/germanytomorrow019874mbp_djvu.txt

Reflections on violence by Georges Sorel:
libcom.org/files/Sorel-Reflections-on-Violence-ed-Jennings.pdf

Manifesto of Gottfried Feder:
truthforgermans.com/wp-content/uploads/Gottfried-Feder-The-Manifesto-of-Breaking-the-Thraldom-of-Interest.pdf

25 point plan of the National Socialist German Workers Party:
avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/nsdappro.asp

Choice of texts from the Ba'ath party founders thought:
archive.org/details/ChoiceOfTextsFromTheBathPartyFoundersThought

The Green Book by Muammar Al Qaddafi:
911-truth.net/other-books/Muammar-Qaddafi-Green-Book-Eng.pdf

With the Century by Kim Il Sung:
korea-dpr.com/lib/202.pdf

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=3NqG2lAojNQ
youtube.com/watch?v=oHboON6nysE
youtube.com/watch?v=rA1LFD6xfi4
youtube.com/watch?v=N3rTBQ1qP2Q
youtube.com/watch?v=o4FwpVC9JVM
youtube.com/watch?v=LnncQKabYvM
youtube.com/watch?v=_KtoKsT6fLI
youtube.com/watch?v=0wDA0h6pZPA
youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI
youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM
youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek
youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs
youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg
youtube.com/watch?v=-4Ojbi6lXQI
youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412
youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A
youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk
youtube.com/watch?v=TxpIsep4160
youtube.com/watch?v=E1BAiBBf5Vc
youtube.com/watch?v=hSyaBgyDaAs
rtve.es/alacarta/videos/archivo-historico/jose-antonio-primo-rivera-discurso/2923556/
realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/hitlers-finances-and-the-myth-of-nazi-anti-usury-activism/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Economic_Policy
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

Great thread

Glad people are waking up to the truth about capitalism and the damage it has caused our race/society.

Thanks. We're breaking the conditioning.

Are distributists welcome?

>National Bolsheviks
pretty funny

Yes.

>implying natsocs want to associate with commies.

good luck, shill

>Mosley
He was cool too:
youtube.com/watch?v=3NqG2lAojNQ
>everything that doesn't submit to my Jewish economic system is communist
Nice try kike.

Capitalism always leads to more migration because the owners of capital will have incentive to cheat by importing cheap foreign labor.

my money is on this becoming a communist thread by the time it drops to page 8

Marxists aren't welcome. Tankies/Stalinists/Juche/NazBols are welcome because they they abandoned Marx's original internationalism in favor of socialist nationalism.

Lol, and now you guys are finally out of the fag closet. Glad you finally got out of the "Hitler was a capitalist" stage.

Oi, what's all this, you cheeky wankers?

Music:
March of the SA (Brownshirts):
youtube.com/watch?v=oHboON6nysE

Footsteps (North Korea):
youtube.com/watch?v=rA1LFD6xfi4

National Anthem of Libya:
youtube.com/watch?v=N3rTBQ1qP2Q

Anthem of the Ba'ath Party:
youtube.com/watch?v=o4FwpVC9JVM

Marcha Peronista:
youtube.com/watch?v=LnncQKabYvM

Anthem of the BUF:
youtube.com/watch?v=_KtoKsT6fLI

Song of the fascist worker:
youtube.com/watch?v=0wDA0h6pZPA

>think national bolshevism is just some post soviet collapse edgy nonsense that arose in like 1995 as just Russian ultra nationalism

>find out Germans were shilling for it as early as the late 20s and even people like Ernst Junger spoke highly of it

not really. The Soviet union always believed in the internationalist aspects of communism, but where met with real life snags in that theory. Especially with north korea going full autistic mode all the time and their head butting with China. At the end of the day, their ideal world was still international communism.

Where can I find more nazbol memes?

Fascism has always been a worker oriented ideology and is closely related to socialism. What you discovered is all related to this rabbit hole. Many fascists are in fact socialists but not Marxists. What defines Fascist socialism from Marxian socialism is the fact that Marxists are internationalists, just like the capitalists. The only way to maintain nationalism is through state socialism.
Meh, Stalin's "internationalism" was just an excuse for his own imperialism and Russian lebensraum. Not to mention, Stalin coined the term "socialism in one country". He also purged the Jewish elements from the communist party. I can't speak for the people who came after him though.

Here you go.

>Social Nationalist General - /sng/
>Welcome:
>National Socialists
why would nazis visit jewish bolshevik threads?

Here's a danker one.

You still never break a hymen

The 25 point program advocates for the cooperativisation of heavy industry, the end of usury and the nationalization of land. (((International))) socialism =/= nationalist socialism.

Because he said national socialists, not Hitlerites.

We're here to stay. Get used to it.

we need more memes!!

>Stalin coined the term "socialism in one country".

That was just a temporary thing though. The strict followers of Marx, like Trotsky, followed this idea that once a communist country arose, it was their duty to help all other communist resistance groups around the world, even if it meant they would fall. Sort of like a hydra, you cut off one head, two more grow back. And through this, a long time world war would acure with international communism achieved.

Stalin rejected this idea and realized that by doing that, he would attract unwarranted attention and just start shit for no reason AND Russia wasnt ready for a war like that. So he stopped all that nonsense to focus on building up the USSRs manufacturing, modernizing the country, and revamping the military in order to make it one of the big dogs on the world stage.

>Because he said national socialists, not Hitlerites.
if you don't accept hitler you are a jew, you filthy kike

Here you go.
There's a reason the Jewish rat Trotsky took an ice pick to the head. With that said, Stalinism in practice was heavily nationalistic but you do make valid points.

One more.

I don't see why we would be welcome here. We have absolutely nothing in common with these ideologies.

We welcome anyone who rejects capitalism and believes in nationalism. We're an umbrella group.

Nice GET. But nazi hatred of jews is exaggerated, probably to help (((their))) cause in creating a boogeyman out of Germans and white people. There was no holocaust and Hitler even helped advance and populate Israel, and Hitler condemned the events of Night of Broken Glass, which was orchestrated by the lower ranks of the SS independently and without his knowledge of it. Let's not forget Hitler came to power thanks to globalist jewish bankers and wall street as well.

you're right
hitler loved jews and didn't want them all killed

>But nazi hatred of jews is exaggerated

no it isnt. Stop being a dindu revisionist

>Hey guys us er uh I mean them jews ain't so bad. We should let them Jew things up.

FUCK OFF
COMMIES ARE COMMIES EVEN IF THEYRE WHITE

National Socialism is bad enough, this shit is pure leftypol subversion, a way to normalize seizing the fucking memes of production by subverting Sup Forums's weakness for jewhating

Fucking strasserite scum

This. Jews are great

Your ass sounds rather blasted tbqh friendo. Perhaps some preparation H would soothe your anal pain.

No Falangism?
Disappointed.

How is Juche internationalist in any way, shape, or form?

Falange is included too. Technically that would fall under NatSyn but I forgot to include it because there's so many ideologies. Plus this is my first time making this kind of thread. I'll update the copypasta to include it for next time.

I was an ancap in high school. The limitations of capitalism in a multicultural society was the hardest redpill to take

Imperial Japan is NAZBOL

Well falangism uses national syndicalism, so...

Any fans of Charles Maurras in here?

Just have the private sector do it's part and have the government do it's part for public programs military etc. Even in a high IQ white ethnostate a reward system and hierarchy is needed. How has fascism already not established this idea? What does strasserism have to offer? People NEED incentive. The concepts of "the needs of society before ones own" can only be taken so far.

You are doing god's work.

Did you all know that Doflamingo was a Nazbol?

Thank you user. Have a meme.

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Anita Sarkeeisan is a nazbol as well.

Not sure who that is but I'm always interested in learning about new figures. Care to elaborate?

>it's a /leftypol/ trying to conflate NatSoc with Strass and NatBol episode
stop this faggotry at once. NatSoc is for private property.

it isnt, thats why I specifically said North Korea was a thorn in the USSRs side regarding their internationalism

remove franco, he was a kike

What if I told you you've simply been conditioned to believe all that because it serves certain (((vested interests)))?

I didn't make it. And yes, he betrayed the falange. He should be replaced with Jose Anonio Primo de Rivera.

Mosley is my favorite.

>Capitalism le evil
Sure, economic freedom is bad. Surely if we point guns in the right direction it will make paradise.

Fuck off faggot socialist.

Pic related is why commies fear Capitalism.

Fuck the dirty jew bolsheviks

The truth about immigration by the numbers:

>youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:

>youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:

>youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice Explained:

>youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why are we in Decline - Cultural Marxism:

>youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:

>youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:

>youtube.com/watch?v=-4Ojbi6lXQI

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)

>youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412

The Holocaust:

>youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A

>youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk

>youtube.com/watch?v=TxpIsep4160

Because you're all the fucking same, a bunch of seething violent jealous statists.

Hitler was the worst thing to happen to the right. You're playing into the enemy's hands.

French thinker and founder of the Action Française, which could be roughly described as being socialist in economics but maintaining a powerful traditionalist monarchy and strong role of the Catholic church in society.

If greed is "just human nature" then why not envy?

Right, we called it vertical syndicalism. I was just messing around.

Franco fucked the most beautiful and efficient political system.

Rare Jose Antonio speaking english youtube.com/watch?v=E1BAiBBf5Vc

(spanish, english and french version) youtube.com/watch?v=hSyaBgyDaAs
better quality rtve.es/alacarta/videos/archivo-historico/jose-antonio-primo-rivera-discurso/2923556/

strasserism is banned on /leftypol/ tho

Ah, OK. I guess similar to a guy like Alain de Benoist then?

He was mostly active in the early 20th century, sort of a proto-fascist.

>Because you're all the fucking same, a bunch of seething violent jealous statists.
ayn rand is a kike >Hitler was the worst thing to happen to the right. You're playing into the enemy's hands.
which enemy? the jews? i am "playing into the jews' hand" by representing adolf hitler? i think perhaps you are a kike

I'm listening user but the idea of the need for incentive, self-actualization and hierarchy systems are rooted in biology and psychology. Too far left and these things become quite difficult to achieve.

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This. Claiming to defend culture and tradition while shilling for capitalism is the ultimate contradiction.

Interesting. Seems like someone I'd like. I wouldn't be surprised if he was someone in pic related that I just happened to not recognize.

I like this idea. Long Live the Workers Revolution! The decadent social parasites ,, wealthy families made useless by their inheritance and their NEET children burden the middle class and poor workers with their wasteful lives.

Oh, misread you then, sorry.

Nazbols need to leave

Capitalism is amoral. It can not care either way about good or evil.
It creates wealth via profit motive.
It is not inately about freedom even if for a short while historically it represented it.

Mussolini was based too

Hitlerism can hardly be called national socialism and is the most bankrupt ideology of them all.

Fuck off, fag. This is our board now.

Back to stormfront

would he have run germany better ?

Quick rundown:

Politically authoritarian and militaristic.
Economically independent and centrist.
Socially far right and nationalist.

If this describes you, congrats, you're one of us.

Libertarians leave first.
Mussolini's ideas were heavily based on national syndicalism and he was a socialist before he became a fascist. He even said he wasn't killing commies because of their economic ideas but because of their internationalism.

Hitler was a Capitalist. He betrayed the genuinely revolutionary elements within his party in exchange for the support of industrialists, the aristocracy and other elite elements. (See the night of long knives)

Hitler is the reason people see the far-right as useful idiots for capital rather then a force promising to transform society for the benefit of the working class.

Strasser Brothers > Ernst Rohm > Mussolini >>>> Hitler

>the jews? i am "playing into the jews' hand" by representing adolf hitler?
You have no idea kiddo
realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/hitlers-finances-and-the-myth-of-nazi-anti-usury-activism/

He wouldn't have fucked his people in total war, that's for sure.

>You have no idea kiddo

NBP supports gun rights.

With an ideology like Strasserism, how will you achieve the ultimate goal of socialism: the ascent to communism, which is a classless, currency-less, stateless, post-scarcity society?

Are you for the expansion of socialism to other countries, but still for maintaining borders and keeping different races apart?

Because one of the greatest evils that comes with capitalism is imperialism, and I feel that that will continue as long as there are nations in existence, even if said nations are socialist.

So I'm not really on board with socialism that isn't international.

As long as there are big imperialist capitalist powers like the USA in existence, you'll have sanctions put on your country, will probably have to rely almost strictly on the resources in your borders and satellite nations, and always be dealing with imperialist attempts to sabotage your economy (see: Venezuela) and coup attempts.

>wordpress.com
Yeah, fuck off.

Just like open borders people are cucks, working class supporters of capitalism are class cucks. I'm sure your chad boss is happy to know you are such a useful idiot that you shill to protect his property online.

Bootlicking, Class Traitor, Faggot.

>We're pro gun, you just can't buy any you filthy goy

at the very least, he wouldnt have started a suicidal war against the world

In communist Yugoslavia, everyone went through military training and almost everyone was armed in case of aggression from either the USSR or the West

NBP supports a system similar to Lenin's new economic policy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Economic_Policy

What about us Georgists?
When will you bow to your philosophical superiors?