Do we like Jordan Peterson?

Do we like Jordan Peterson?

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He's pretty much my father figure now.

Why the fuck does everyone love this guy?

He's basically a liberal who's ok with homosexuality and transgenderism. There's nothing nationalist about him.

Can someone explain what's so good about what he does?

>Tell me me opinion
Sage goes in all fields.

The only way to destroy the west is to first destroy men and put the women in charge.

i do personally.

i think he is the only political figure out there that doesn't try to get people radicalized.

That doesn't really answer my question... can someone link me to his best lecture or something.

dumbass leaf
Watch his Joe Rogan interview. You really can't explain his views as a political viewpoint. Because they aren't. I'm NatSoc and I'm still trying understand to fully understand his views. He's right in every way though. (idk about his view on gays but I don't really care). His main message, that really speaks to people: logos and responsibility. Logos is truth that hurts. Logos is a truth that points out that flaws in someone. It's really hard to explain

Easy one to watch:
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Hard one to watch:
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His Joe Rogan episodes are great.

If Joe does anything well, its keeping his more entertaining guests talking

>He's basically a liberal who's ok with homosexuality and transgenderism.
The fuck? You are one stupid-ass Britbottle.

Anyone who is in favor of big government is a scumlord

He's a smart man and he's able to articulate his ideas successfully enough to persuade just about anyone to agree with him. He really just throws some of the main viewpoints of popular existential philosophers with an anti post-modernism twist. His acceptance of transgenderism is probably just for show but I didn't truly know that people still give a damn that some guys put their dicks in other guys butts..

Jordan "stop on centimeter before the Jew is named" Peterson

Jordan "the Western world can be maintained by Somalis if they LARP hard enough as whites" Peterson

Nah. He's got interesting things to say but nah.

Also "muh free speech." Fuck free speech, Marxist rebellion and rabble-rousing should be crushed like a bug under the boot of angry goyim.

>cleaning your room with a mop
what is this, the 80s?

Peterson is an interesting figure for Sup Forums. he isn't a racist, or a right winger, he doesn't even really have political views.
He is a humanities professor who is standing up to non-sense in his field, particularly gender-binary issues.

In a more general sense he gives the right back the moral underpinning it needs. He provides a semi-intellectual argument for religion, and order in society. He gives us an intellectual reason for why so many young men in the west feel appalled that our culture and values are changing like wind. That order and some sense of identity continuity is necessary to have a society that has meaning.

Its no wonder hes such a fucking hit. In order to understand this new trendy right wingism, you need an understanding of god and morals.
He is a cure to moral relativism (meaninglessness) , He is a cure to non-sense, He is a cure to Godless-ness, and you should listen and spread his fucking ideas

But he literally said he has no problem with transgenderism... as in those were his actual words...

people have a mental illness called gender dysphoria. thats transgender ism. thats what he is saying. that he wants treatment for sick people, not that he wants them paraded around like the crown achievement of western society.

>He is a cure to Godless-ness,
negative. love jordan but nigga please, no sky fairies for me.

>no sky fairies
*fedora tipping intensifies*

>He is a humanities professor
p.s. he's also a clinical psychologist.

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>thinking god is a fairy

feel bad for your lost ass

>we
We're supposed to fight the SJW/leftist collectivism. If you like him, and "we" tell you we hate the guy, will you stop liking him? I like him. I don't care if people here don't.

well sir i congratulate you on being born in the land of the One True™ Religion.

His ideas about religion are more complicated than just saying "god exists". Considering he's criticised Islam, he knows there is a toxicity in radicalism and extremism. He says humans are driven to believe in something superior. He's not wrong about it. That's something many known atheists seem to being unable to understand, that people are driven to abstract notions to rationalize certain moral beliefs and that atheism has a potential to become a dangerous nihilism.

the truth is: the only reason he is seen as exceptional (apart from the obvious fact the attention he's getting is because he stood up to marxists) is because we are in such a decayed state
i don't want to be a bitchy hipster: he has valuable advice to normies.
the unfortunate truth is that most of his shit is high school tier (and not even senior level...)

Sounds Muslim. Pretty sure Jordan is a Muslim name

Jordan is a muslim country you dumbass

Well if he makes it seem as simple as that, then he's a good explainer. Don't forget, he integrates more than one field in what he says. And if it was high-school-tier, why haven't we heard these insights before?

Just making my point stronger

rebel media kike

(((we))).

I think he is fantastic and gives people a model to live by that is useful, productive and meaningful and explains the world in a way that is fair but more importantly useful.

I think his entire set of philosophy is very very well structured and interconnected in a way that is brilliant which is the result of him being a smart guy who has thought about what he is saying a lot.

People who say all of his insights are obvious don't really understand his philosophy, learning anything radical that hasn't been taught to you in some subtle way over your life would prove a lot of what he is saying wrong. It's an intricate point that I can explain further if anyone wants.

He isn't really a political figure so nazi larpers don't like him and he doesn't really provide any answers on a macro level for issues, and this would go against his philosophy in general.

change comes from inward not forcing our will outwardly to accomadate us at our weakened state. First we unlock our potential and then we fire up the gas chambers.

I like him over all.
Some of the things he bangs on abut are sily.
The net result is acceptable.
I listen to his lectures and get something out of them.
That's worth a lot to me.

Sup Forums is not one person
i personally like him

Da Jews dummy
Google outcome/objective based teaching

What do you mean by logos? Sorry if this is really stupid but like the Nike logo or something?

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No sure how you can make that post and "loe jordan".

You obviously don't understand a large part of his philosophy. Revise maps of meaning and sort yourself out bucko.

Frankly college today is shit tier. Seriously go watch some of these "elite" university's courses online.

They read and interpret source material.

State and mid level colleges read interpretations on source

Local and community colleges read interpretations of interpretations.

Particularly in the less rigorous areas, math is maths you can't pussyfoot around it. Only way is the hard way.

Now after 50 years or so of Jewish "developments" in psychology zimbardo and his ilk doing half ass experiments and calling them revolutionary. When they are obvious on their face.

Meanwhile A fucking leaf with just enough backbone to not be a cuck. (IMO the minimum level of backbone) quietly reads the sauce and has some thinky pain. Compares it to clinical models and basically says you can objectively disregard 99% to 100% of this Jewish filth. Why because evolutionary Grace and ancient Memes are free for everyone that's why.

Bitch get to reading. The Greek and Latin philosophers are the first fucking books you should attempt to read.

Logos is Greek for moralistic logic.

I think he's pushing people in a good direction. Bottom line is people need to learn to take responsibility for their actions and for themselves, he helps with this.

There are plenty of things about him I don't like: I don't like his view on religion (I am religious, but his interpretations on religion are pretty shit(his interpretations on importance of religion though I agree with mostly)), His interpretations on Nietzsche often miss the big picture, etc.

Overall I think that if people were more responsible about their lives they'd start taking more responsibility for other things as well, responsibility is a habit and always pushes itself in other aspects of their lives. It's also anti-PC in an academic sort of way, and might push more anti-pc people in academia to speak up.

Because alt right is so desperate for someone to look up to
Old Sup Forums hates him

Individualism is for faggots.

National Socialism is unironically the solution to "ordering/sorting" society.

Fuck the public education system. I can see why we are not taught these things and have to seek them out.

He adds some intellect to the right.

Pretty accurate but at least we're going back up your stairs

always with the solzhenitzyn

*the stairs not your stairs.
Jeez. Im phone posting sorry

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whoops wrong thred lol

Not really. Hes part kike and hes against National Socialism, has given shills ammunition they need to suggest National Socialists are ideologically possessed because they want to stop white genocide and cultural marxism, and realizing voting is never going to work to do that.

Solzhenitzyns approach to existentialism is a pretty important cornerstone to Petersons worldview, alongside his experiences providing strong arguments against authoritarianism.

I'm probably going to be studying his work for the rest of my life. It's helped me add meaning to my life and aided my recovery

I consider myself agnostic and even I can somewhat agree with his definition of god. It's simply what transcends us.

is his book worth a read? I havent read much philosophy and would like something condensed to broaden my perspective on life. Did I basically rad all of it watching his two joe rogan podcast and a bunch of random videos?

If you haven't read much philosophy a) you should read more but b) you might be better to watch the Maps of Meaning lecture series as it's more digestible than the book, especially if you haven't had much experience with texts like that.

I find his lecture series much much much more enjoyable than random one off lectures he gives as it's in depth explanations of the mechanisms behind why he thinks what he does, rather than just what he thinks with a little bit of justification.

your best bet is to read the book and watch the lectures alongside it.

He's fine but he's got nothing on Noam Chomsky

It's more than even that. It's the fact that... God is basically a pattern that we follow, a prototype. We are evolved creatures, so whatever God is is the pattern we irrevocably live inside of. No matter how smart we get, no matter how far we go, we can't escape the template that formed us initially.

There are certain things that we know are true, but are not empirical. The fact of math, for example. There is no object, no sensory experience we can get of numbers, but somehow the archetypal two is the same two as when you're dealing with two apples, two people, or 10 in binary code. It transcends reality.

That is what God is. It's something that can't be directly analyzed, but it's there, somehow. And when you realize what effect it has on reality, you just have to accept it as some kind of reality, even if it's just as a practical reality.

The truth is that without some kind of transcendental meaning, we lose motivation to strive towards what's good. We can do away with belief in god, and we can actually function without the concept, but it could do such damage that maybe it's just better to find some way through it rather than abandoning it.

inb4 "I am moral out of self-interest!" neat, then you're a sociopath, and when given the opportunity to harvest a child's organs for tons of money and zero risk of getting caught, you'll do it without a second thought. It's only rational, right?

Cant listen to anythng he says,the dude bores me to death

Peterson is an old liberal and still has the taboo against mentioning race and jews, even though he's redpilled.

Just watch his lectures on personality, especially on IQ. He is a 100% believer in IQ and heredity, and undoubtedly he has read up sufficiently that he is a race realist. But he never mentions it.

Likewise all of his railings against postmodernism are against those "damn French intellectuals" like Derrida. Oh he forgets to mention they are Jews?

Of course he stops one centimeter before! He has seen colleague after colleague get demolished by mentioning race or the JQ. Rather than get hung up on the standard traps, he is directly going after the nihilistic foundations of postmodernism.

I don't think he has a problem with trans-trenders either, just he thinks it is about as meaningful as getting piercings or a mohawk. And he doesn't want anyone to be forced to use those damn postmodern words.