Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
>other shill thread hits bump limit >gommie thread up soon after Too obvious
Dominic Adams
ugh? this is not really the place for the nazbol gang but I welcome them here since they are anti-capitalists . Nazis are not welcome.
Nicholas Lee
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Jacob Sanders
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Aaron Wood
>National Socialists are not welcome
You've been here for so long making this thread and you STILL don't know what national socialism is all about? Sounds to me like you don't lurk here at all.
Throw me a bone. What makes you think we're capitalists?
Eli Hughes
No reasons? No speculation? Swallow the pill man, reject the /leftypol/ group bias and become a scholar rather than a leech like you are at present. Spain needs strong men to lead the workers. Be a strong man.
why do lefties copy the far right? are they really right about everything and cucks have to copy them little by little?
Alexander Carter
No, you want to enslave me and take away my rights. Goodbye.
Ayden Mitchell
>Supporting private property over a "community" pool that only the directorate has access to >Supporting individual strength and contribution towards the whole rather than a want-to-be hive system >Supporting menial commerce that can be intervened upon at any time to protect the interests of the workers/people
These are bad things? None of those things make Hitler a capitalist. At all. If it did every nation in history and any future nation would be capitalist with no exception. Even communism would have to be considered capitalism in that respect.
Levi Bailey
this is how malnourished you are on a communist diet
Kevin Adams
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Adam Hughes
You're not welcome here anyway faggot. Fuck off. All communist niggers need to die.
Ryder Cruz
Fucking gallegos
Xavier Garcia
No! I want you to be free comrade, no more oppression from the bourgeoisie.
Joseph Fisher
> hasn't read gulag archipelago > NOT REAL SOCIALISM > another 150 million deaths and we'll get it right
Look what the capitalists did after the brexit prices kek.
Angel Phillips
National Socialists want YOU to be free. Promises of wealth will fall through. Work for your people not for profit and reward.
Chase Davis
Pipe dream. It won't happen. Utopian and collectivistic.
Eli Cooper
Why would you be in support of the European Union in its current state? Do you really think for a second that the people running the EU are for the people?
Ryder Phillips
I don't support the bourgeois european union at all.
Landon Wright
Since collectivism is fundamentally a flawed mode of thought, communism will fail.
Jaxon Johnson
No. The communist maxim is "from each according to their ability. To each according to their need". We are aware of the individual differences. What we want is social equality.
Eli Hughes
Collectivism isn't fundamentally flawed, but stamping out individualism completely like commies do is why it fails. You need to have a balance between individualism and collectivism, which is something that national socialism accomplished.
Colton Nelson
We live in a community and we must protect the well-being of the community, not the current shithole we live in full of exploitative bourgeois selfishness.
Zachary Ramirez
I'm gonna masturbate to this workout supporting your ideology.
Grayson Perry
There is place for individualism in communism too:
A communist society would free individuals from long working hours by first automating production to an extent that the average length of the working day is reduced and second by eliminating the exploitation inherent in the division between workers and owners. A communist system would thus free individuals from alienation in the sense of having one's life structured around survival (making a wage or salary in a capitalist system), which Marx referred to as a transition from the "realm of necessity" to the "realm of freedom." As a result, a communist society is envisioned as being composed of an intellectually-inclined population with both the time and resources to pursue its creative hobbies and genuine interests, and to contribute to creative social wealth in this manner. Karl Marx considered "true richness" to be the amount of time one has at his or her disposal to pursue one's creative passions.
Marx's notion of communism is in this way radically individualistic
Thomas Perez
The idea that people should bend the knee in any form disgusts me. I want maximal individual freedom. Groups only exist to serve the needs of the people within it.
Then why are you against Brexit? A movement where the WORKERS voted to get away from the bourgeois friendly EU.
Nathan Hall
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Justin Brooks
I'm advocating for a complete system change so I'm not against or for brexit really. Some people say brexit will bring accelerationism for the communist cause .I wish it to be true. We'll see.
Jonathan Lee
The easiest way to start hating communism - is to live in post soviet country
Gavin Wilson
>The easiest way to start hating communism - is to live in post soviet country
None of these countries were communist societies...
Ryan Hughes
How can you still support a system that has historically wrought nothing but the opposite of what you espouse, "individualism", "freedom from selfishness". Who would determined who is selfish? Who would reallocate resources "fairly", in every case these responsibilities of the vanguard state were ignored. Selfishness and avarice is human nature, we can not devolve from it. There is no peace and there will always be conflict either militarily or civil. Your ideals have failed, the free-market and republican democracy have paved the way for huge empires to span the globe and subjugate lesser totalitarian nations. Kingdoms have crumbled at the feet of capitalism and the innate desire for freedom as did your "collective" systems that fell quickly into elitism that the kikes ruling them instated. The only reason corporations own you now is because the state intervened, they hamstrung competition, they consolidated power unwittingly into conglomerates because they were "too big to fail". If our nation is in need of an authoritarian collectivist movement it needs a fascist one, one that doesn't hide behind the guise of the proletariat but proudly stands as the lions of the society pushing industry and the nation forward through a unified iron will. Your kike progenitors of Marxism have done nothing but drive stakes between unity in our nations. They have destroyed our birthrates with flagrant degeneracy and flooded our countries with a slew of mongrel hordes. The only thing your "Proletariat" friends will bring is nations full of cogs without identities toiling in an industrial nightmare with their jewish masters sitting in the institutions above them. There will be no overthrow, there will be no equality or unity, you will be enslaved or killed as all under communism have.
Michael Ward
The communist cause will lead to a revolution where a new aristocracy emerges and will create a permanent "transition" stage society.
Ayden Anderson
The best way to start liking socialism again it's to live in a post right wing solution to socialism.
Joshua Rivera
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
James Miller
Venezuela is looking pretty good right about now comrade, why don't you go join your brothers in starvation?
Do communists not realize that communism guarantees a single giant corporation (a.k.a. the government) complete monopoly over every industry and the power to kill any employee (a.k.a. the citizen) that doesn't comply? Communism literally is a parody of the perceived flaws in capitalism. I have tried and honestly cannot imagine a system more exploitative of workers. It guarantees that you will never be anything more than a slave laborer grunt - that is unless you are a (((Party member))). How is it current year and people still believe in this? The kikes are so impatient and pushy that they're already pushing it just 20 years after the Soviet Union collapsed. Let the goys take a five minute break before they have to deal with this shit again
Leo Carter
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Kayden Lopez
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Angel Torres
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Benjamin Smith
And what was then?
Lucas Ward
I don't really like communism, but I don't like them being censored or phisically removed either.
Alexander Rivera
>Spaniard again Seriously dude if you continue this I will divert all my autism in to doxxing you and when I find you I will use Shekel zone privileges to drive to your piss covered apartment to give you a beating you will never forget.
Daniel Nelson
Oh its this thread again sage
Christopher Martin
Socialist states, you should know it well russia...
Nathaniel Davis
Good luck, it will take you an infinite amount of time...
Gavin Wilson
Bump
Brody Scott
That was cute user.
Carson Morris
Oh look an user that doesn't know what sage is for.
Tyler Green
why should i support a system that is against my class and race
