I have seen that most of Sup Forumslacks have many misconceptions about Muslims living in the West so I am willing to answer any question as a Muslim that has assimilated.
If you just want Breitbart and Fox to teach you about Muslims, preferring lies since they make you feel better and suit your narrative, move along. Otherwise for the open-minded people wanting to know the truth about Muslims in the West, Islamism, Jihad, Taqqiyya, "Critical-mass", etc I will answer all questions, just no petty insults please.
"as a Muslim that has assimilated." Does not compute.
Cameron Ortiz
When I see Muslim women in public covering their bodies/faces, I can't help but feel that they are enslaved to their husbands. I find this incredibly immoral and offensive to the liberal culture that we foster here.
Do you think I am wrong? If so, why?
To me it's not like a Sikh turban or something. It doesn't seem to be about devotion to God, but about devotion to men.
Carter Garcia
Forgive me for the pause, I was checking out the 2007 Pew report on Muslims, it was very interesting. I was particularly checking the suicide-bombing section. That 26% American justified one is portrayed badly, 11% think it's rarely justified.
But I get the point, the section about younger Muslims being more radical than the old ones feel like a reaction to everything that has happened after 9/11, but the average Muslim according to Pew has a positive view of the US, negative view of Al Qaeda and negative view of suicide bombing. Look at the college stats too, college-educated people are more likely to have unfavorable views of Al Qaeda and terrorism. Lack of education is a curse to everyone.
I'm sorry for what the Moors did to your ancestors.
I am Shia.
Why not?
Wearing clothes is a sign of modesty. There is no obligation for the burqa in Islam, it is a cultural thing. Only a hijab capable of veiling the hair, since the woman should be for her husband only. Pretty sure if most Western women were this way there wouldn't be any MGTOW.
I also hate seeing the burqa too, I feel like it is a sign of disrespect to the accepting society one is in, when wearing the hijab is sufficient.
Jace Smith
My daughter has asked me why those women cover themselves (full-body covering/face covering) and I have told her "because they are slaves to their husbands and fathers. Never let yourself become a slave like that."
Joseph Reyes
Sir, what's in the "bag", Sir?
Julian Bell
Where are you from originally?
Justin Sanchez
How does your interpretation of Sharia Law differ from your Islamic brothers and sisters of other branches/sects?
Also, is it true that during Ramadan some cultures choose to fast between 12:00 am and 6:00 am (may have the wrong numbers) when they are basically asleep anyway?
Leo Rogers
>I'm sorry for what the Moors did to your ancestors. No you're not lol
Samuel Ortiz
When are you going back?
Robert Ramirez
It is not a sign of slavery, I assure you Muslim women really wouldn't say that. It's about modesty.
Just like you might look down on women wearing "sluttish" attire, some Muslim women will look down on the regular woman for also being too revealing.
Eli Green
Why is it when I think of the moderate muslims, that I get the picture of the ones standing next to the guy beheading someone, letting it happen?
James Foster
I get the modesty thing. My family is Catholic and stresses the same thing.
But honestly it seems to me it goes way too far a lot of the time. I have seen women having to call their husbands for permission to buy things. I have seen women be forced to only ride in the back seats of cars. I have friends who abandoned the hijab and had to leave home out of fear of their families harming them.
I really hope that this is not as common as it appears to me. But as it stands, people with your religion in Canada seem to have some pretty fucked up customs.
Bentley Young
fuck you muslim. fuck off back to your shit hole.
Juan Ortiz
is it ok for muslims to try to kill me for posting this?
Easton Stewart
>11% think it's rarely justified. Justified at all is a bad thing. Fucking Shi'ite you realise if you go to almost any Muslim country you will be treated as a second class citizen or killed?
Cast away the shackles of your backward ideology
John Gutierrez
can you explain how lying to non muslims is permitted, and what the boundaries are?
also, is muslim pro or anti dog?
Jonathan Reyes
What does it say on piggy's hat?
Kevin Carter
fpbp
Carter Peterson
That's wrong. I'm not going to tolerate that, I'm sorry. A woman isn't slutty if she wears a fucking tshirt in the summer.
I will do my best to ensure that the attitude of your people does not spread in this country because it goes against core values that I hold very deeply. It goes against freedom and liberty.
Jayden Brooks
>Why not? Your religion explicitly states that you should resist and not take part in non-caliphate society beyond what is absolutely necessary.
Jace Walker
>muslim thread >assblasted rednecks immediately start posting anti muslim pictures even funnier the 100000th time
Bentley Garcia
>moderate muslims existing my ass
Zachary Williams
Born here, STEM student and not on welfare, what's your problem? The United States was ground zero for multiculturalism anyway.
The Quran is a holy book very difficult to understand, it is open to being interpreted in so many different ways you have no idea. Muslims can really have vastly different beliefs from each other. This is why there are so many Islamic scholars and interpreters versus Christian ones.
Look at Al Qaeda and ISIS, both are Salafist Sunnis, taking a fundamentalist approach to Islam where they literally follow Islam by the word, yet they still differ in practice because their scholars interpret the Quran differently.
I don't know about that, but I don't think so. Eating time is like when sun completely sets (~8:40) until the morning prayer. Thanks for the question.
That is just wrong. If you are silent to such acts of extremism, then you're accomplice and therefore no moderate. Call them both terrorists/radicals.
Anthony Gomez
>11% think it's rarely justified >the average Muslim according to Pew has a positive view of the US more.... ahem.... opopurtunities?
Owen Reyes
hahahaha upvoted
Ian Rivera
kek
Bentley Parker
Muslim IQ is 85-ish, too low
Aaron Bennett
>misconceptions You're the one with misconceptions. It's called the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Cameron Hernandez
>but the average Muslim according to Pew has a positive view of the US
I don't give a fuck about the 'average' Muslim when upwards of 25% are okay with someone loading up explosives and bombing my farmers market
Parker Sanders
>moderate Muslim
Cooper Gonzalez
why do you thing a peado was the perfect human, seems perverted fucked up shite to me, you dumb cunt
Aaron Nguyen
lololol muh tolerance
Asher Phillips
>basing your life, worldview and ideology on a book that can and has repeatedly been interpreted to fuck kids, kill innocents, and stone rape victims
Probably time to figure out a different avenue toward moral truth, your one doesn't seem very good
Joshua Russell
>so many different ways you have no idea here in the west we have fallacies. this one is called 'appeal to imam' >muh authority
Tyler Moore
Do you stick 1 or two fingers in your ass hole while you're praying to muhammad?
Elijah Sanchez
no one gives a fuck about your religion
Nicholas Foster
how many beheadings you watch per day on average?
have you raped a goat today?
you like young,or very young?
Zachary Sanchez
have you ever converted anyone to the religion of goat fucking with this bullshit
Noah Baker
i do. how else would we know who to bomb?
Henry Ortiz
why are muslimes obsessed with goat and baby fucking?
Easton Flores
Why follow a shitty death cult mud religion if you don't even get to rape/murder/pillage?
What's the point?
Serious question OP.
Jacob Diaz
Rude.
It is extremely disrespectful, but no. I like how Christians take advantage of this. They make fun of our Prophet (SAW), fully knowing that we can't fight back since Jesus is a Holy Prophet in Islam, born from the Virgin Mary blessed be her name. We also believe Jesus physically ascended to heaven and that he is still alive, waiting to return in the apocalypse.
We have so much respect for Jesus, yet you have none for our Prophet, it is very rude.
There's nothing I can do about dumb people in my religion. I agree with you though on the second class citizen thing. I won't leave my religion, because I solemnly believe in God.
Taqiyya's definition has been manipulated, it is not what Islamophobes make it out to be.
Taqiyya is only practiced by Shiites, it allows you to feign your faith in life-or-death situations. Meaning the only, the absolute ONLY scenario where you're allowed to used Taqiyya is when someone puts a sword to your throat and tells you to renounce your faith. Everything about it being about lying Muslims is false.
Muslims aren't pro or anti-dog, but they believe dogs are filthy. Not dog eaters/killers like Chinese but not dog lovers either. We avoid dogs, wish it wasn't so cause I love doggos tbqh.
Robert Green
Oh god it's an explosive leaf.
Blake Ross
why do you follow a book that tell you to war monger and abuse those who do not accept you and why do you put a man who literally raped children and once again was a war monger in such a high place
Ayden Garcia
10/10
James Ross
If you consider the Koran and the Hadith to be guiding principles of your life you are no better than the seditious Jews that already infest us.
Jayden Gutierrez
saved
Angel Nelson
Somalian Man here. What are you tips for best place to eat in Toronto?
Luke Powell
>moderate
So you're not a real Muslim then? Why would we ask you anything?
Landon Evans
>I like how Christians take advantage of this. They make fun of our Prophet when was the last time you heard ridicule of islam in the MSM or any sort of televised programming?
Noah Rivera
Did you ever try bacon when no one was looking?
Elijah Hughes
Ask a moderate nazi anything.
Parker Rodriguez
no one gives a fuck about religions it's for dumb monkeys like yourself
Henry Perry
Get out of our country sandnigger piece of shit.
Dylan Ortiz
polygamy leads to this
ideal society is somewhat egalitarian but with an acceptance of hierarchy
polygamy = tons of betaboyz with nothin to fuck except for other betaboyz
Eli Johnson
>dumb people in my religion i think its less they are 'dumb' and moreso that 11% is still 198000000 people...
Nathan Richardson
they still remember these cartoon artists,they still craving for the rolling heads.
Lincoln Green
Shhh, Trudeau might hear you.
Gavin Carter
/thread
Parker Harris
Do you prefer moose fucking to goat fucking now you're a parasite in leaf land?
Bentley Reyes
>Everything about it being about lying Muslims is false.
Bullshit, have a friend who renounced muslim faith, you're fucking full of shit. Go kill yourself you filthy deceiving child rapist. You're all the fucking same.
If you want to assimilate, give up your barbaric religion that tells you that it's alright to marry a child.
Brayden Gonzalez
As a Jew I'm watching you silly goyim talk about Jesus, who never existed and Muhammed, a baby fucking warlord. Its like watching children argue about action figures and super heroes.
Zachary Peterson
>We have so much respect for Jesus, yet you have none for our Prophet, it is very rude. muslims have as much respect for Jesus as Christians have for satan. your 'prophet' is a formidable adversary but now that you can't hide behind your language barrier anymore, everyone knows you believe it's ok to lie to any non-muslim.
Matthew Roberts
> it allows you to feign your faith in life-or-death situations doesnt seem very devout if you can forsake your faith to extend your life in this middle ground for a few more years, versus an eternity? unless youre not completely convinced theres something after this life? :/ im really trying here...
i like how you said islam isnt pro or anti dog, then procede to say something negative about dogs. lol
Andrew Clark
So your prophet was an evil pedophile who married a 9 y/o. My question is: how can you respect your piece of shit prophet?
Sebastian Evans
Moderate Muslims are just like the Christians who only go to church at Christmas and Easter.
Isaac Cooper
Explain the following >religion promotes goat fucking >religion promotes rape >religion promotes kiddie fucking >religion promotes killing non believers
Don't cuck out like every other Muslim and not answer or default to the 'not muh islam'
Gabriel Campbell
yeah but you're a mad kike lol
Xavier Gonzalez
How can you claim to be both a Muslim and a moderate? You are commanded by the Koran to kill infidels. Is that moderate to you?
Zachary Flores
sand nigger you're not answering my questions
Lincoln Cruz
The question isn't whether you respect it or not; the question is whether you will bend your ass over backwards and submit to the Prophet. Chances are this will not be a matter of choice.
Ethan Wright
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Ethan Martin
Honestly dude I really disagree with a lot of what your religion stands for and have ex-muslim friends who have had to leave their families because of it. I'm not okay with that. I will try to liberalise every single Muslim I become friends with because of this. I don't want to live in a society where women are treated as second-class citizens.
Daniel Wilson
The 11% is only the US. And only "rarely justified" (not the rest). And only suicide bombing (not the rest).
Fucking hate these de-facto apostates like OP that front for Islam as "moderates" and get pinned up on fucking shows on the BBC etc to come up with shitty apologetics and the faggots in the media just accept it without question meanwhile the majority of muslims in the UK want homosexuality literally outlawed and there are slums that operate under shariah law
OP read this: I strongly suggest you read the words of Ayaan Hirsi Ali (Infidel, Nomad, etc) and Ibn Warraq's "Why I am Not a Muslim" Fuck you
Brandon Reed
quick you so you see my post
Jayden Parker
do you like the taste of goat vagina?
Benjamin Murphy
Well it is also during the summer women are most often down for degenerate activities, but assimilated Muslims really don't care.
I am not asking you to love Muslims, no, in fact I encourage you to act against Muslims that you believe are stepping on your personal rights, but for the Muslims that keep to themselves, please do not hate those.
My religion says many things, but it is impossible to follow them all. The Prophet (SAW) lived in an Arabia dominated by pagans that would persecute Muslims, the radical steps taken in the Qurans were to ensure survival against pagans that would persecute you. I am living in a society full of kind and tolerating people, there is no need for me to uphold those radical measures taken in radical times.
Thanks, you sure showed me.
I have no control over those dumb people. Anybody thinking favorably of Al Qaeda is NOT a moderate and should be deported ASAP.
General IQ in Afria is shit anyway, even in Christian countries like Zambia.
No there are many misconceptions. Most people here don't know what taqqiya or jihad is, but use the term very often.
You don't know what those that chose "rarely" were thinking. I imagine those were Iraqis that had to watch their country being invaded and destroyed.
Pedophilia was the norm in the Middle Ages. Adolescence is a recent concept created in the last 200 years.
You have to understand the context of those hadiths. I have many devout Christian friends who don't stone gays or adulterers, but I do not doubt their integrity as Christians.
Ryder Richardson
that was fake,fake book in quran made by Yakub,and the white people,after they studied the book of tricknology.
Jack James
Why do you follow a religion where your prophet not only goes to war, and has his soldiers rape captives, but doesn't even have the courtesy to pull out when raping those captives?
"that while he was sitting with Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) he said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interrupt us?" The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence." Book 34, Hadith 176
If you are looking for a community, faith, and truth, surely there are better holy texts out there to start from, and you can find many supportive communities. Trying to be moderate when you simultaneously worship a violent prophet and doctrines is simply hypocritical at best, and enabling of extremists at worst.
I mean, the worst shit from the Talmud and Bible has nothing on this.
Juan Jackson
(((moderate islam)))
Jackson Morris
They're commands not recommendations
Lincoln Green
So how many women have you raped since moving to canada?
Hunter Rodriguez
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Kayden Hall
>jesus never existed
thats an odd way to cover up for killing our savior.
Juan Scott
Would you fight with us in WW3 vs the Middle East Muslims?
James Gomez
Find me a Muslim that will concede that Muhammad was evil.
Jaxson Hall
Ya, either accept Muhammad as the false prophet, become a atheist you neck yourself before i do it for you.
Tyler Moore
Cast away the sheckles*
Jaxson Davis
Here I just see them shitting out children and getting paid by tax payers dollars to live off that.
Oh and enjoy the free health care.
Fuk Mudslimes. Each and every one of them.
Landon Powell
DROP THE BAG DROP THE FUCKING BAG STOP RESISTING
Aaron Martinez
Fuck off commiecuck. SI PASAMOS PUTO !!
Oliver Foster
>Pedophilia was the norm in the Middle Ages. Adolescence is a recent concept created in the last 200 years. So your stupid goat fucking god thinks it's ok to rape children, he didn't say to Mosandnigger not to do it did he, so he must think it's ok and therefore you also must think child rape is ok, you fucking perverted cunt.
Thomas Lewis
There's no moderate muslim. That's bullshit. Muslim societies are primitive as fuck. I feel bad for those oppressed people. That's not the society muslim philosophers thought. I recommend my brother that you convert to christianity. The only true religion of the world that conbines the semitic god with greek philosophy. And also, pray that one day America nuke the shit out of those sandniggers. And the arabic world become once again a protectorate of the western societies.
Zachary Martin
>Muslims that keep to themselves these what are called 'sleepers.' their strategy for destroying the west is to fuck/rape everything (especially goats) in sight covertly but never go full 9/11 until their imam gives them the word. once they get 10% population in a given country, they attack. fortunately, they're not smart enough to manufacture m4s.