Yugoslav war

Sup Forums, redpill me on Yugoslav civil war please

We had mason king who fucked up.Then we had jewish marshal who held power with iron fist and he created artificial nations,and then when he died his generals started war

Serves them right, fucking traitors

was (((they))) somehow involved?
What's about Clinton and Albania?

1995 WILL COME AGAIN

Fuck off

CIA organized the war so that stupid Yugoslavs could repay the 40 years of IMF debt accumulated under Tito's retarded Socialist schemes which he pulled off as Titoism.

in short therm:
Ukrainans = Croatians/Bosnians,
Crimea = huge Serbian territories and peopple inside Yugoslavia.
(((commies))) gave Croatians/Bosnians Serbian clay.
Croatians and Bosnians wanted to break away from Yugoslavia but to also steal and incorporate Serbian clay, industry, land and population.
They mostly won, because they had the entire (((nato))) and west supporting them.
We mostly lost because besides collapsing Russia we had no one.

this, nothing more, nothing less. we were dumb to take that bait and act like complete morons, to answer with nationalism due to inevitable economic crash of yugoslavia because in the ending years IMF cut-out funds and demanded repay

well, what's about Muslims then? (Albanians)
which role does they had in the conflict?

They provided the refreshments.

I hear that Republika Srpska wants to secede from Bosnia and Herzegovina
Do you think they're gonna try to become part of Serbia, or become independent?

he's descibing it from his point of view which is wrong for me, it's not exactly like it was the case with Ukraine. it's much more complex than that... anyways, it's not so much woth discussing it, since the final conclusion is that everyone made a mistake in that war and such thing should have never happened. now we're holding grudge on each others because of that shitshow which didn't end good for anyone.

there is absolutelly no way that Republika Srbska secede from Bosnia without uniting with Serbia.
There are 1 400 000 Orthodox Christian Serbians living there, and they all want to unite with Serbia.
The referundum for the independence is scheduled for the 2018 and it will be a major shitstorm in (((EU))0 because it will give a boost to other movements were peopple want to democratically express their will.

albanians are (((CIA))) cannon fodder proxy for the USA geopolitical interest in this region.
They supported them to further weaken Serbia and to create drugs/weapons/human organs/terrorists training/ black hub in Europe close to their Middle East operations and a militarry base.
Also Kosovo and Metoxia is enormously rich with natural resources which are being (((bought)))/taken for pennies by the (((politicians/corporations))) who mostly shilled for the bombing of Yugolsavia.

The EU (as well as the UN) will most likely try to prevent their referendum. It only shows how corrupt these organizations are.
I am hoping for the best for these serbs.

>he's descibing it from his point of view which is wrong for me
something that is wrong for you, doesn't necceserally means that is not correct
>it's not exactly like it was the case with Ukraine
yes it is exactly like with the case with Ukraine
our commies, just like sovie commies gave our clay and resources to croat and bosnians

suffice to say the (((USA))) is ONE the architect of Yugoslavia breakup because they instignated the war trough provokasions, financing of the nationalistic political parties that wanted to break away and sanctions, but so are also our politicians who accepted the money and willingfully destroyed the country while they got filthy rich.

>(((commies))) gave Croatians/Bosnians Serbian clay.
>Serbian clay.

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>Of course (((they))) were involved. Ever hear of the evil kike cunt Madeline Albright? Without her there'd have been no bombardment of Serbia.

These threads always end up in a shitstorm... such is life

yes they certanly will, but i don't know how much power they got left to assert their policies now with the all the problems they got

it's gonna be really, really hard to lobby this time for the muslims because of their behaviour and wave of crime that they brought into europe. they will get no sypmathy.
it's gonna be even worse ater that because the 500 000 croats that lives on the 15% of the bosnia territory will too also want to seced and join croatia.
that leaves the small state with the clean ethnicall population of the 2 000 000 sunni muslims in europe, with no economy, industry, national resources and nothing of value.
it's gonna be a huge happening.

You know if it happens that will mean war?
Anyway it wont happen, dodo cant steal money if he secedes.

Yugoslavia was built on the gibmedats of american/cia loans. CIA needed yugoslavia to keep stalin out of europe.

When Tito died in 1980, and the funds were running dry, yugoslavia was in massiva debt and hyperinflation. America didn't need yugoslavia anymore and also stopped giving money to them.

The artifical country thus began to crumble in early 80's and people retreated to their ethnic identities (which were heavily suppressed by communists under the guise of "Brotherhood and Unity")

All the ethnicities saw this coming and so began the process of land and resource grab.

Serbia for example had many thugs and operatives sent to Western Europe for the main purpose of plundering and financing their bankrupt state. They broke them out of prison whenever they got caught, etc.

Take a good look at this post guys,because it represents pile of shit in a written word.
Serbs wanted to create Greater Serbia,by ethnicly cleansing territory that they held.
War resulted the way we wanted it(to get Croatia in it's today's borders),but with the exception of about 250 000 thousand less Serbs in Croatia.If they didn't start the war,there'd be a hell of a lot more Serbs in Croatia and in Bosnia today.
TLDR;Serbs are idiots,have never won a war,have always and will always be rekt by Croats,have always and will always be jealous of Croats,have always and will always want to be like Croats.

Have a nice day.

Independent Yugoslavia was a mistake at first. Italy, Germany, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania and Greece should divide and annex it.

you said referendum is scheduled for 2018? How come I haven't heard a peep about this shit. Hope for the best though, you guys always got fucked and it's high time you got something in return.

Of course i forgot that Hungary should take Vojvodina. Anyway they will take it in a few years.

dozens of federal units populated by the croatians (63%) and Serbians(37%) inside AustroHungary empire for 1000 years thas not makes it coratian nor bosnia clay either.
You didn't even exists as a sovereign nation and we won in the all previous wars and even reoved the ottoman empire from the balkan. It's almost 90% our contribution and accomplishment that we got free both from the Ottomans and from the AustroHungary and Germany.
And now all of sudden you get to take our peopple and territories and create sovereign state, as you please, not to mention you lost both world wars and acted as the agressor. Based on what?

read history sometimes and try to mathematicaly and statistically calculate your contribution.

this we still get non stop propaganda against each other til this fucking day

because (((mainstream meteor))) doesn't want you to know jack shit that they oppose

free kurdistan soon.

We sided with the Muzzies.

WE WUZ

How was tudman a jew, when he was disliked by israel?

Krajina area in modern day croatia and half of modern day Bosnia have been Serbian majority for centuries

Its not "serbian" clay though , it was never called serbia, its austro-hungarian clay.

don't listen to that retard, he's a notorious troll here, known for constant shilling against croats in these threads

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The US didn't give a shit until kebabs in bosnia were being removed and then a couple of jewish shills got the feels and convinced Bill Clinton it was a good idea to support the kebabs againt the Orthodox Christian Serbs whilst also telling the boot licking Croats they too weren't allowed to remove kebab.....oh and the Catholic church.

Croats and Bosnians wanted to create Greater Croatia and Greater Bosnia.
It's not Serbia who wanted to separate from Yugoslavia it was Croatia and Bosnia, and Croatia and Bosnia took away with themselves huge Serbian clay and population.
Serbia didn't took one inch of the Croatian or Bosnian clay.
That's why you got hundreds of thousands and even milions of Serbians living in the Croatia and Bosnia but not the other way.

The greater Serbia is Propaganda/PsyOp pushed by the (((west))) and (((CNN)) and (((BBC))) just like the other fake news stories like:
Sadam WMDS
Assad gassing his own peopple
NSA and CIA is not spying american peopple
and all other false flags and fake stories.

>german stable boy larper talking about wuzing
wev lad

Just kebab rape babies in denial killing each other

what should i do instead?
kiss their asses
you fucking braindead commie leftard scum
>muh bratstvo i jedinstvo
kys

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did some croat fucked your girlfriend? you must have some serious issues since you're this much obsessed with them and frustrated...

>Serbia didn't took one inch of the Croatian or Bosnian clay.
lel

Does population mean territory?
Because if that's so,Kosovo is full of Albanians,therefor it's Albanian.

You do realize that during the period of Yugoslavia,large numbers of Serbs came to Croatian territory?

Seriously tho, did the term "bosnian" even exist prior to the fall of Yugoslavia?
It seems like it's just a term to categorize turks speaking a serbocroatian language

>You do realize that during the period of Yugoslavia,large numbers of Serbs came to Croatian territory?
first time i hear this
serbs came long before that, during the ottoman invasions on their homelands

(((Tudjman))) he was a special kind of a JEW
a Khazarian JEW

he was disliked by the isralel because that's is just a KIKE playing all of the sides of the political spectrum to further their political interest
(((position)))-(((oposition)))
the west with the defeated germany was/is united at that time/now and is main geopolitical enemy is Russia and it's allies
so it was natural for the jews to take Germany stance with the support of the Croatia while publicly "complaining"

The truth is somewhere between you and him.
Serbia should have nicely let you guys go and be independent.

Serbia made big deal over the area of Croatia which was Serbian and not Croatian, and ended up losing that area anyway and making an enemy with the closest people to us in the world.

this

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It was the ultimate example of what happens when multiple ethnic groups with differing cultures are placed under the same umbrella. It should serve as a bloody warning of where Europe, Australia, and North America are headed.

It's funny a country like Croatia, steal the beach to Bosni and when they want to go to the south from the north of their country, they have to cross an other country.

>Does population mean territory?
yes because as i said, Croatia didn't exist and Croatia lost both wars, Croatia didn't fall under Hungary and Italy(the leftover clay) because our king decided to take them in mutual state.
Corats and Slovenes had zero saying and militarry resources do anything abou that after they lost WW1. Read the London Treaty of 1915 that we rejected into moslty your benefit.
>Because if that's so,Kosovo is full of Albanians,therefor it's Albanian.
(((commies))) gave KiM to Albanians, they were the ottoman ally and invader, they're gulty not by the association but by acts. and most of the commies were your guys/kikes.
>You do realize that during the period of Yugoslavia,large numbers of Serbs came to Croatian territory?
maybe because they got expelled and removed during the Nazi Germany and Croat genocide towards them. also i gonna need a source for that.

>Croatia, steal the beach to Bosnia
You don't know shit about the history of this place do you?

fair point
if the Croats could breakaway from Yugoslavia so then also the Serbians could break away from Croatia

Not really user, the peoples of this area were native inhabitants. The problem was the Communist govt that drew up artificial borders that left ethnic minorities in each state after the break up of Yugoslavia.

Yes,during those times too.
What's funny is that you acknowledge that there were a lot of Serbs in Croatia and Bosnia,yet you Serbs claim that Ustaše had a goal of exterminating Serbs.
Pick one.

LOL. This is hilarious attempt by serbs to rebrand milosevic as protector of the west. He was deeply tied to serbian mafia that operates in western europe see: He also was notorious for conducting many false flags in his own country against his own people lmfao.

Croatia also stole the coastline from the Slovenia.
Ok to be fair it was mostly done by the commies but still nevertheless they expelled large numbers of Slovenians from parts of theIstra and gave it to Croatia.
the (((commies))) did the same with the our clay of Kosovo and Metoxia and gave it to Albanians.

1953 : 588,411 serbs in Croatia
1991 : 581,663 serbs in Croatia

Why lie if a simple google search can discredit your entire ID in the thread now

Ahh yes. The benevolent dictator who killed millions of Cossack prisoners

you just contradicted yourself you complete retard.

>What's funny is that you acknowledge that there were a lot of Serbs in Croatia and Bosnia,yet you Serbs claim that Ustaše had a goal of exterminating Serbs.
you've just contradicted yourself and proved our point
we didn't have 14 concetrations camps and we didn;t slaughtered large number of civilians
we are also not the one screeeching whenever independent investigation is mentioned.
if there were no Serbian civilians mass murdered in the Croatian concetration camps, why then oppose the investigation?
do you know something which we don't

You fought us tooth and nail when we tried to secede, so why wouldn't we do the same?

>You don't know shit about the history of this place do you?

In France we don't talk about Balkan, if i weren't on pol, i do not even know the countries that compose it.

But i see on the map Croatia has just a little slice of their country on all the coastline (very nice for exchance, economy of hollidays, etc..) ans Bosnia has nothing. And it's seem not normal because none country have an other country in their middle.

but tito was a christian was he not?

i really dont get why u serbshits so triggered over the civil war. None of that clay was yours, the majority of population were croatian not serbs, and we werent the ones that started the "balvan" revolution

>have nato backing
>'lol we rekt u'

Delete this nephew

it's just him that gets triggered. we don't care about god damn krajina, even milosevic didn't care about them in the end

Serbs started the whole fucking mess. Then they are the ones to blame all the other countries and even say that america cause the balkan wars.

Serbs are the most delusional people on earth

there's the French flag shilling for Bosnia again, your the Albanian right? Muslim brothers?
Here is the distribution of ethnicities in yugloslavia , the "Bosnian" Muslims don't even touch the sea. The current borders today were drawn by communists and were like the main reason for the civil war

So Kosovo is Serbia or Albania ?
And i undestrand my serbian friends on facebook (living on France) who like and comment all time hate-albania picture.

Oy vey! Put ze shekels in ze bag and no one gets shoah'd

powerful

Is that why there's masonry everywhere in the street?

>Serbs are the most delusional people on earth
that's rich coming from albanian

That's bullshit though.
>Serbs started
You could say so, but what provoked Serbs into starting anything?
Maybe unnatural crippling of Serbs in Yugoslavia?
Maybe because communism is a shit system?
Maybe because of historical events?
You aren't doing anyone a service by parroting retarded propaganda. Albanians won't get better even if every Serb on the planet suddenly disappeared.
Balkans is full of pathetic ''nations'' which seek ''greater'' territory, yet they can't create livable conditions on what they already own.
Be a man or be a sheep, your choice.

The town was probably hit by artillery.

Keep crying, turk. You didn't do shit during ottoman years, you jannisary cuck traitor.
>muh clay
If it was yours, you'd have it by now. You don't just get to run away from turks to other people's land and claim it as yours.

>bosnians areas
>no economy
Servian areas in Bosnia are the poorest.

The "Bad" Guys were the Good Guys all along

>Yugos on Italian TD
Uh?

At one time before the war, we were given an option to enter the EU by an emergency in order to prevent war.
TUdjman declined because he wanted to fight a war and and make Croatia independent *it would be independent and free in eu but it didnt cross his mind in the time(
Slobodan Milosevic wanted to become the new Tito and declined too
Izetbegovic voted yes , and said that Bosnia will be a bloodbath if we dont join the EU

afther that comes the foogz part of who started the war, who is a war criminal etc...

by Dayton, the war as marked as an unfortunate conflict with no winning or losing side. No genocidal serbs or genocidal croats or genocidal muslims

we could live in Swiss-like rich country if our leaders were smart enough to evade that mindless war

I fuck your mother

this unfortunately

>could repay the 40 years of IMF debt
Remember when Ceausescu repaid the entire foreign debt of Romania, and what happened to him immediately after that?

Btw, regarding Serbian claims of genocide during WW2 (especially claimed numbers of victims), it's interesting to check the results of the yugoslav censuses of 1931 and 1948. In 1931 there were 6.785.501 orthodox citizens (which included Montenegrins and Macedonians ), while in 1948 there were 6.547.117 Serbs (without Montenegrins, Macedonians and other orthodox)

While the total number of inhabitants was 13.934.038 in 1931 and 15.772.098 in 1948 (and that included people in the areas added to Yugoslavia after WW2)

it was not civil war you ignorant piece of soviet shit

>trust me, we dindu nuffin guys

The term "bosnian" probably existed, yeah, it's the term "bosniak" that's contested. The part about muslims in former yugoslavia being turks is horseshit propaganda though, they're genetically identical to their serb and croat neighbours.

>Muh 700000 in Jasenovac only. Muh 2,5 millions
Well, counter these census numbers. You're only discrediting yourselves in front of everyone

It turned out alright for me i guess.
I was born during the war but even i remember that my dad brought us so much refrigerators, stoves, washing machines, dishwashers, tv's, sound systems and cars that we literally lived off of it until 2005. During that time both parents had jobs, so we were well off.
He now owns an appliance store in the business area owned by an old kikenberg kikekty kike that is cool with Dodo (we pay Dodo for protection and get favors to deal with competition) and i started work as delivery not 3 months ago.
Everything is piss cheap here now i have gas (not benzin petrol but gas) installed in my BMW, i spend dimes for fuel compared to before.
I can buy any original Adidas product i want.
I have my own tiny apartment and i rent another one, extra money here and there, or sex with a herzog student that doesnt have money for rent.
I live in the town best known for beautiful women in large numbers.
I can have any i want and when i want.
I am my own man now, which cant be said about almost none of other people my age.
Im a fucking KING compared to the rest of this shit oven 'country'.
But i would be heartbroken if something went wrong.

>the serbian mindset

i never claimed that numbers, retard. i know it's over exaggerated as holocaust

>Kurir

Come on albozerg, you are better than this

no serb or croat prays to God on a foreign language not even he understands

Legitimate "dislike" between the different ethnic groups which was exasperated by (((them)))) divide and conquer basically

Different people that don't really like each other that much were forced to live together. Lolconomy was set up in a way that only what Big Boss approves was deemed good - notions such as capitalism, socialism and communism were irrelevant, money would flow where and how chosen few wished. Any sane person who refused to go with the narrative was silenced one way or the other. Most of the people were being ignorant of the situation since they could live their lives just fine on the redistributed wealth without meddling in the taboo stuff such as internal or external politics. Over the time corruption in higher circles became rampant and the pseudo-system fell on it's head, every group started blaming every other group for the declining quality of life until someone decided that blame is best served with a bullet, which opened the door for everything else you can read on Wikipedia.

TL;DR Poor economical and political decision lead to a collapse of a forced multinational society.

And despite of all this it was still better than any past, current or future state anyone from our nations has ever lived and ever will live in.