Social Nationalist - /sng/ Thread

This is a thread for the discussion of anti-capitalist nationalism. We support the establishment of a workers state free of capitalist materialism and degeneracy.

Welcome:
Strasserists
Fascists
Distributists
Falange
National Bolsheviks
National Syndicalists
National Socialists
Jucheists
Jamahiriya
Ba'athists
Peronists
Anyone who is interested in revolutionary nationalism.

Not Welcome:
(((Capitalists)))
Libertarians/Anarchists left or right leaning
Marxists who oppose nationalism
Imperialists
Anti-Fascists

Websites of interest:
Institute for National Revolutionary Studies:
institutenr.org/
Revolutionary National Socialism (Strasserism):
revolutionarynationalsocialism.wordpress.com/
Third Positionist National Revolutionary Forum:
thirdpositionist.freeforums.net/
Socialist workers party of England:
socialistworkerspartyengland.blogspot.com/
The Fourth Political Theory:
4pt.su/
Oswald Mosley:
oswaldmosley.com/

Essential reading:
Germany Tomorrow by Otto Strasser:
archive.org/stream/germanytomorrow019874mbp/germanytomorrow019874mbp_djvu.txt

Reflections on violence by Georges Sorel:
libcom.org/files/Sorel-Reflections-on-Violence-ed-Jennings.pdf

Manifesto of Gottfried Feder:
truthforgermans.com/wp-content/uploads/Gottfried-Feder-The-Manifesto-of-Breaking-the-Thraldom-of-Interest.pdf

25 point plan of the National Socialist German Workers Party:
avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/nsdappro.asp

Choice of texts from the Ba'ath party founders thought:
archive.org/details/ChoiceOfTextsFromTheBathPartyFoundersThought

The Green Book by Muammar Al Qaddafi:
911-truth.net/other-books/Muammar-Qaddafi-Green-Book-Eng.pdf

With the Century by Kim Il Sung:
korea-dpr.com/lib/202.pdf

European Socialism (Mosley):
oswaldmosley.com/european-socialism/

Third Position Book Store (Black Front Press):
blackfrontpress.blogspot.com/

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=HpXFQaQGLq0
youtube.com/watch?v=oHboON6nysE
youtube.com/watch?v=rA1LFD6xfi4
youtu.be/zmI2yDAyWYI
youtube.com/watch?v=N3rTBQ1qP2Q
youtube.com/watch?v=o4FwpVC9JVM
youtube.com/watch?v=LnncQKabYvM
youtube.com/watch?v=_KtoKsT6fLI
youtube.com/watch?v=0wDA0h6pZPA
youtube.com/watch?v=P0psF0cnLHE
m.youtube.com/watch?v=u7TN--NnpLo
telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/7961211/Hitler-had-Jewish-and-African-roots-DNA-tests-show.html
twitter.com/AnonBabble

youtube.com/watch?v=HpXFQaQGLq0

strasser was a commie that wanted to purge the military officers like stalin did.. loyal to hitler but a commie, associated with homosexuals, threat to the reich's establishment military whose loyalty was needed for the wars to come.. adios

>National Bolsheviks
>National Syndicalists
Tell me why the fuck a Sup Forumsack should prefer those over natsoc. I bet you're from /leftypol/

reminder that this is a communist thread that is larping as a third position thread

Hitler Ruined Nationalism. He made it a taboo subject now.

Fuck the Shills. Bumping this thread.

Here's the music:

Music:
March of the SA (Brownshirts):
youtube.com/watch?v=oHboON6nysE

Footsteps (North Korea):
youtube.com/watch?v=rA1LFD6xfi4

No Motherland Without You (North Korea):
youtu.be/zmI2yDAyWYI

National Anthem of Libya:
youtube.com/watch?v=N3rTBQ1qP2Q

Anthem of the Ba'ath Party:
youtube.com/watch?v=o4FwpVC9JVM

Marcha Peronista:
youtube.com/watch?v=LnncQKabYvM

Anthem of the BUF:
youtube.com/watch?v=_KtoKsT6fLI

Song of the fascist worker:
youtube.com/watch?v=0wDA0h6pZPA

Song of the NatSyn Falange:
youtube.com/watch?v=P0psF0cnLHE

>no arguments
typical /leftypol/tard
I'll stick with this Hail Victory

Inb4 the (((libertarians))) LARPing as natsoc get in.

I don't argue with retards who only know how to call everyone they disagree with a /leftypol/ shill. It goes no where wastes everyone's time and gets nothing accomplished.

OK is a faggot.
sage

Because you can't answer this, /leftypol/ Also pic related

>Welcome:
>National Bolsheviks

This.
Oh wow, they found our thread and posted a screenshot on their board. Whoop de fucking doo. Go to that thread. You'll notice no one there takes responsibility for starting the social nationalist generals on Sup Forums.
>inb4 you post there saying you started it as an organized shill campaign.

If Hitler had purged the army and old civil service he would probably have won
Never trust cuckservatives

This, there were even cases of old guard officers purposely getting their own men killed just to undermine Hitler. The fascist cultured_thug talks about it on his YouTube channel.

>still no arguments
Sage

>Anti-Imperial
>posts Hitler and Mosley
Yeah this is a shill thread

I just gave you an argument you moron. You're just upset that the argument didn't fit your faggy conspiracy minded narrative.

oh yez mr krupp fug me in de anuz at leazt ur not a joo DD

>being this retarded
I was refering to this Saged again

>It's a /leftypol/ shill thread go-- I mean guys!
>We need to accept (((capitalism)) so I don't lose my shek--- I mean save the white race!

I was reading about the Abwehr and Canaris betraying Germany actively from the start
So many on Sup Forums don't realize just how much the older generations betrayed their descendents with zeal and drive

I'm done conversing with low IQ faggots. Say what you want. Like I said, this is going nowhere fast.
Both of these.

>natsoc
>capitalism
2 digit IQ /leftypol/ confirmed
>I'm done
You couldn't even bring any argument. Top fucking kek

>Commusim is a failure
>Fascism worked for the time it was used in Germany
Why is fascism shunned so much, it doesn't sound like that bad of an idea, extreme nationalism is a great thing for the success of your country

Fuck off now spic.

Is it Bolshevik? If so, it is Jewish dialectic. Pharisee-Bolsheviks and Strassershits are incapable of a legitimate socialist revolution.

FUCK OFF lefties, get the fuck out with your shitty stealth marxian ideology, nobody is buying your bullshit.

Quit being fat.

Heydrich should have hunted down that dog Otto.

nazbol is a shitty meme but there is literally nothing wrong with national syndicalism

And yet he didn't. My leader lived and your leader died in disgrace.

Jose Antonio is based.

>I'm done
>keeps talking
kek
also
>spic
wow /leftypol/ is being racist
And still no arguments for

You fuck off, Ioseb dze Dughzibvelshvili

Reactionary labor cartels trying to strongarm the nation need to get stomped. The Hitlerite revolution advances.

You quit talking first spic scum. I can't wait to put your kind against a wall.

And yet you let reactionary industrial cartels do the same. SAD!

Strasserism is basically Stalinism minus Jew hating you moron, it's even worse. shove your Marxist civi-nationalist ideology up your ass and get out off Sup Forums

How can you save your people from Jewry if you only acknowledge the capitalist side of the Jewish coin, while shying away from the Bolshevik side?

Can someone explain what the difference is between natsoc and socnat?
Is this just more division?
Just another thing kikes have us disputing so we can never keep our eye on the ball?

>Minus Jew hating
>Marxist
>Civic nationalist
Confirmed retard.

Read a book you retarded faggot. The economics are largely different. Strasser denounced Marxism multiple times and advocates a market socialism based in spiritual idealism as opposed to Marxist materialism.
At least this is a fair point. As for the Bolshevik comment. NazBols aren't Marxists, Marx was an international communist who wanted to destroy nations to bring about world communism. So yes, communism is a Jewish ideology but it doesn't pose the threat that international capitalism does because the USSR no longer exists. The capitalist power players still do.

stop confusing Strasserism with nazbols

No, it is not, dumbass.

t. Stalinist

Leftist economics simply don't werk. That's why Hitler preferred Schacht over Gottfried Feder.

Sorry socnats, but Strasserism is a dead meme.

>chile
wow you're so retarded
and you aren't able to convince anyone to join your shitty movement
Also
>posting obongo
/leftypol/ pls. Stop being so obvious

Yeah this

You're all filthy spics to me. Don't pretend to be white mestizo scum.

It's still Bolshevik, and Bolshevism is rooted in Jewish hatred. "Heil Hitler and also Lenin" is not okay, praising the product of Jewish psychopaths is never okay.

Hitler used earlier saint-simonian definition of socialism and Spengler's Prussian socialism.

Bolshevik literally just meant "majority" in Russian. They called themselves that to make it seem like they had more numbers than they actually did.

You are delusional idiots, Strassercucks associated with Jews, were against "racist" policies and proposed alliance with soviet union.
shut up and bow to your Georgian master, faggot.

Either "it was a mere ruse", or they are making no effort to distance themselves from criminal Jewish ideology.

> Socialism

>he keeps talking to me
kek
And you aren't able to refute what I said. You see, here when you ask something, they answer you, instead of shitting on you.

>"It is alien to me"

Natsoc (WW2 germany) was still capitalist but with a strong sence of unity within the the german people
Stromg worker unions etc
The state regulates the economy with the demand and supply.
People need cars but can't afford them?
The state created WV to create cheaper cars with low profit wich forces other car companies to go down in prices.

SocNat in this example is only WV without allowing a free market as far as I got it and against capitalism

are you thinking of ernst rohm?

I answered all of your questions. Ask your infantile question again. If you don't get an answer that resonates with your low IQ 15 year old mestizo mind don't blame me.
And yet Hitler was funded by the (((Rothschilds))) and his mother was a Jew, making him a Jew by birth right. This is why he destroyed his own village by turning it into an artillery practice range. Rabbi Schicklegruber wanted to cover up his Jewish past.
Are you referring to NazBols or the old Russian International Bolsheviks?

National and international are nuances in the Bolshevik world. They advance Jewish dialectic, and are toxic.

No.

Jews ruined nationalism by giving cucks like you a guilt trip about the holy 6 gorillion.

No you didn't
My question: Your "responses":

It' not a nuance. It's a major policy difference between nazbols and international communists. One preserves the nation, the other seeks to destroy it.

Typical moronic shill answer. Schicklgruber is more German than Hitler. Rothschilds didn't fund Hitler, nice alex jones tier meme

fuck (((Franco)))
m.youtube.com/watch?v=u7TN--NnpLo

Why are you so quick to defend the product of that maniac Lenin? You don't get to call yourself a friend of the nation if you object to abusing Marxist byproducts.

He united the rebels against the depraved Republicans. Learn to speak kindly of him.

franco was the best thing to happen to the spanish people you leftypol scum

Okay, I didn't see that portion of your question. I'll give you an answer. Capitalism promotes cultural decay through commercialism and consumerism. They also sexualize everything to sell products (sex sells). High ranking CEO's lobby for increased immigration and open borders to allow the free flow of labor and capital across international lines. It's also inherently wasteful as planned obsolescence creates products intentionally designed to break which just end up in land fills. There's numerous reasons why national socialism is superior to national capitalism.
telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/7961211/Hitler-had-Jewish-and-African-roots-DNA-tests-show.html You can't ignore the facts.
When did I defend the USSR? I defend nazbols. The USSR wasn't nazbol.

I see leftypol is getting more creative with their disguises

/leftpol/ COMMIES FUCK OFF

Only reason for "Social Nationalism" is to desubvert Democrats. I approve regardless.

Again you didn't answer my question, read it again Can you read, retard?

(((Ulyanov))) and Stalin are heroes to National Bolsheviks. Are you ready to back them up?

NatSyn isn't much different from NatSoc in the Strasserist sense. I don't know enough about NazBol to give you a good answer except that it advocates more of a planned economy. Happy now?

Nice pop-science article, Hitler was never tested himself, therefor it can't be know, his relative was tested for a haplogroup, he had a north African haplogroup, that is quote common in Balkans as well, I don't expect an amerifat commie to understand why haplogroup on an individual level is irrelevant, but I'm too lazy to explain it.

I don't like Stalin but at least he purged Jews and degenerates. Along with sticking an icepick in Trotsky's head.

>muh haplogroups
If you're not going to explain it than you're not presenting an argument.

Strasser did want to purge out the old and bring in the new to some extent. He wasn't associated with homos though. That was Hitler who was Rohm's bff for some time. Strasser also served in the Freikorps that fought commies so it wouldn't make sense to kill commies if he loved them so much.

he was an oppurtunist who sould out to the capitalists. there is a reason why he wasen't the first, second or even the third choice of a replacement to the fascist side of the civil war

It's a leftypol tries to attatch itself to fascism as it attempts to legitimize itself episode.

Pro tip leftypol you have to debate and argue spamming shitty Stalin pictures does nothing otherwise Sup Forums would be pro hillery

/leftypol/ hates Strasserists.
Pretty much this senpai.

Is that why National Syndicalists like the Falange fought communism in Spain?

He also referred to Rohm as a pervert. Rohm was also the only one who got away with calling Hitler by his nick name "Adi" which everyone thought was very strange... hint hint...

I don't think that was his motivation. He was made into the archetype of a nationalist.

You'd really hate Joseph Goebbels then who said Lenin was the second most important man who ever lived after Hitler. Not that I'm a fan of Lenin but Sup Forums NatSocs seem to be pretty unaware that NSDAP had plenty of left wing thinkers.

Because haplogroup are used to trace migration patterns, haplogroup is only paternal, you can be a full nigger with an European haplogroup. also his haplogroup is common in north Africa and Balkans, it's not even Jewish.

Most of Sup Forums doesn't read. Goebbels was also a Strasserite before he joined Hitler to avoid getting purged.
The question is still in the air. You can't disprove the fact that Hitler had Jewish roots and the DNA tests lean in that direction.

Recognizing a man's importance isn't necessarily praising him. If you're talking about Goebbels' 1920's diary entries, he was depressed, and believed that death by Bolshevism would be better than living under capitalism. Those thinkers were kicked out in the Night of Long Knives.

I already explained to you that there is no DNA test indicating that Hitler had Jewish blood, also you claimed that his mother was Jewish, when Y haplogroups are only paternal.
stop believing in retarded articles, even the scientist who did the test was outraged by media misrepresentation of his article, it's always someone writing it and then everyone copies the article, typical popscience (((Journalists))).
Is this explanation good enough for an low IQ imbecile like you?

Himmler even admired Tito's skill despite being heavily against Tito's politics. Himmler actually said he wished Germany had a dozen Titos.

Dr. Goebbels was a fanatic follower and friend of Hitler.

Himmler was a gook wizard. Don't take him seriously

It doesn't matter anyway. The fact is, he supported a materialist system that is spiritually Jewish in nature.
That may be true but it still doesn't change what his economic views were. I think the Reich would have been much better off with Goebbels as the Fuehrer. I still like Goebbels despite the fact that he joined Hitler.

After a certain point. Goebbels for a time was heavy Strasser supporter and was privately critical of Hitler. It wasn't until after a private car ride meeting with Hitler did Goebbels's opinion of Hitler do a total 180 to almost worship. I have to admit I'd love to be a fly on the wall and see what Hitler and Goebbels discussed that day that changed Goebbels so drastically.

>"Antisemitism is dead. Long live the idea of the People!

This advocacy of the idea of the People logically implies the disavowal of any valuation of peoples or nations as good or bad, as better or worse, since they all have equal rights, equal needs, and equal duties, in accordance with the will of the Creator, who gave each of them its own kind, its own nature, and its own tasks." - Otto "good goy only for non-capitalist Jews" Strasser

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