What does Sup Forums think of the Dark Enlightenment?

What does Sup Forums think of the Dark Enlightenment?

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It is the most based ideology. Too bad Sup Forums is full of drumpftards and hillbilly degenerates who won't be able to comprehend, let alone appreciate, this immense ideology.

I've always viewed it as alt-right for grownups.

It's awesome. It should've been the true Sup Forums ideology as it essentially mixes Libertarianism with anti-democratic monarchy and traditionalism plus some race realism.

Back in 2013 it was pretty big but retards don't get it. TRS rejected it because Moldbug is half Jewish.

It's the alt-right for people with a double digit IQ as aren't dysfunctional and insane.

*sorry meant to say *without* a double digit IQ

Compare the level of discourse on /r/darkenlightenment versus preban /r/altright and much of Sup Forums, and it's miles apart.

>right libertarianism

it's not even distinct from general right wing wankery, in fact it is the engine of intellectual discourse and argumentations that forms the backdrop of much of the right wing thinking on the internet. Moldbug, Nick Land, all those guys laid the foundations that we are memeing off of now.

The thing is that a lot of modern Nazis and Nationalists tend to be immensely dysfunctional people. Not necessarily stupid (though a lot of the are) but just fucked up.

The only public white nationalist who seems to have some intellect and a fucking grip on life and reality is Jared Taylor; and even he's a little strange.

there is a huge amount of overlap. altright / Sup Forums are for memes and public awareness, hestia society and other groups are for actually building the network of arguments and intellectual basis for HBD, anti-democratic thought, etc.

Can u give me a quick rundown?

It's post-Libertarianism you dumbass

It's pretty distinct desu. TRS, the daily Shoah, Daily Stormer all hate Dark Enlightenment because moldbug is half Jewish. Also, I doubt Anglin in sane and stable enough to understand most it.

Nick Land described the Alt-right as at best 'Duginist'. Dugin is the opposite of neoreaction in many ways; Dugin hates technology and free markets.

The quickest rundown you can get on Moldbug is

>Monarchy is pretty cool, as is computer science

as Moldbug's """"""""""Condensed""""""""" introduction is still like fifteen pages long.

radishmag.wordpress.com is a goldmine

So is all other literature on it, as its proponents are not degenerates who can only comprehend something as long as a meme

see dominiccummings.wordpress.com for more great thought

It's just edgy libertarians

Undoubtedly, as the proponents of Dark Enlightenment tend to actually red on political philosophy and be acquainted with esoteric literature

Good except that Moldbug hates Calvinism.

Start lurking MPC and Nick Land's blogroll and you'll start to get a feel for who is really shaping the discourse on here.

Shariablue interns can't keep up with NRx sith lords.

This is by Nick Land (academic philosopher)
thedarkenlightenment.com/the-dark-enlightenment-by-nick-land/

Moldbug (computer programmer) wrote 'an open letter to open minded progressives' which laid out the foundation of the political theory of Neo-Reaction.

Problem is NRx gets so much hate from the 1488ers and TRS that they can't really gain traction.

>TRS, the daily Shoah, Daily Stormer all hate Dark Enlightenment because moldbug is half Jewish
i've never seen that before. I've seen people being hard on Moldbug for totally jewing out on the JQ, which i've researched myself and Moldbug's genetic self defense mechanism definitely put up blinders regarding that topic. He unironically compared AIPAC and jewish influence to being as influential as... the Cuba lobby.

>MPC
Yep. Sup Forums is basically the plebbification and packaging factory for actually developed lines of argumentation on there. I don't see any issue with that either.

monarchy is the only way to live

Shut up stop telling people about it you fucking nigger most of us are monarchists. leave your cringey FAGSHISM out a here

Monarchies I've met from Sup Forums are very intelligent

Natsocs and libertarians tend to be dumb dumbs

basically it's the primordial soup of knowledge that ultimately, somehow, flows up to Sup Forums , """"alt right"""" , memesters, frogposters, twitter trolls and trs guys in a condensed and dumbed down manner.

Sup Forums is retarded normieville compared to a lot of the early DE stuff. They also basically legitimized Human Biodiversity.

So when I say Sup Forums is the packaging center here's the process:

>Actually well read intellectually minded thinkers do studies on human achievements between social groups based on a whole spectrum of perspectives (sports performance, disease proneness, time preference)
>The ideas are condensed into good infographs and blog posts within the HBD and DE community
>The ideas gain traction within various communities where the ideas are discussed
>End up on Sup Forums in the shape of nigger hate threads

who cares. the future is Asian. I just want to find out how to exit from white liberals.

Moldbug is NrX lite, he is headed in the right direction but Karl Boetel of radishmag is the true daddy in that field. Read some of their stuff, mindblowingly fluid.

This is true. But it's a shame that Sup Forums basically a lot bigger than Neo-reaction ever did. So many people here are retards that have discredited Human Biodiversity forever.

As you can see I'm kinda blackpilled about the future.

ITT: the IC tries to convince Sup Forums America doesn't need National Socialism even tho Israel is working towards the very same

Eudcate yourselves, theorize and discuss. But never lose site of the enemy at your rear.

Give me good blogs, I provided a few above and here are some more:

socialmatter.net
atavisionary.com

the nation-state is defunct

Oh and one more thing. If you ever get tired of the constant jewposting, as in, seeing literally EVERYTHING bad to ever happen as the result of jewish intellectual influence then Qualified Reservations is where to read

I wish I could play form the perfect government with them, but where I am in the Hierarchy of Needs is much lower than these guys. I see the reality of diversity and white displacement daily, so my level of discourse is basically on "how do we survive this and what are the means"
DE is much higher, as in, their ideas could be discussed after a future is secured that isn't a global shopping mall with the demographics of South Afrika. This is why DE and the rest no longer interest me, because if you want to talk shit on guys larping as Nazis, but these guys are larping as aristocrats in some sort of Archeofuturistic Monarchy. Which is fine, but, we have to actually survive until that point as a people.

HBD isn't discredited, retards have always been retards, but if they are right, and appeal to fellow retards then it's okay. Memes are effective when they tell the truth. Sup Forums is an image board, of course it's going to be bigger than a bunch of intellectuals building a neo-aristocracy.

the best one is an aggregate. It's called
freenortherner
It's some canadian guy who aggregates the weekly nrx stuff.

As far as youtube is concerned, Millenial Woes is a really active neoreactionary. His format is nice too.

>Moldbug is NRx lite

Jesus. The dude... literally started in 2007/8. I guess there are people who are more radical than him but the term 'neo-reactionary' was literally invented by Arnold King to describe Moldbug. Fucks sake. Know what you're talking about.

Great prioritization. Nice stuff. There are ways to survive, there is an entire Völkisch belt in Bavaria:

youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ZqaZ8PMNU

Also look into traditional living like those Europeans:

instagram.com/growingwildthings

>how do we survive this
should we? our society has decreased our fitness. by all rights we should disappear.

Agreed, but I'm a PATCHWORKER!

The problem with NrX is that it's very hard to take it from theory to practice right now. touches on this, but more to the point: How do we actually go about forming a monarchy in the middle of the USA? How do we go about putting ANY of the ideas NrX (or any of the various factions within it, you know what I mean) propose?

So true. Moldbug basically laid all the foundations for this awakening we see. He inadvertently channeled the frustrations many people were starting to see in our society after the 08 elections that eventually led to all sorts of right wing buggery.

Many won't give him credit, but if i had to name 3 guys who inadvertantly secured the existence of Western Civilization it'd be Moldbug, Jared Taylor and Ron Paul. I know it's an odd trio but think about it. All were autistic in their own ways about 1) Hierarchy 2) Race Realism 3) Liberty respectively.

Decreased it is, it's insane by how much we have degenerated. But with CRISPR and all that new biotech we may stand a chance

>hierarchy
>racial realism
>liberty
The 3 systems which foster evolution.

Reading Moldbug's open letter was my first exposure to a systematic critique of modernity, which I got a lot out of.

It does have blind spots, which to my mind mostly result from its libertarian roots (i.e. grounded in liberalism and materialism). For example, it can look at HBD in a mechanistic way that focuses on IQ and economic outcomes above all, whereas I would prioritise ethnocultural community that produces a shared cultural/linguistic conception of reality that enables to creation of common transcendent ideals (transcendent ideals, by definition, being the only thing that can set above self-interest).

Similarly, the NRx idea of shopping around for the government you want to be ruled by is totally antithecal to organic community and nonvoluntary identity. In proceeding from libertarian materialism, it fails to address the problem of modern man's inner orientation and skips straight ahead to institutional reforms.

>3 guys who inadvertantly secured the existence of Western Civilisation

That's a bit hopeful for me mate. I think we might be done for. Western culture is in such a state of decay that I've not idea how we could possibly come back. Maybe Spengler was right; the decline of the west is absolutely irreparable.

fuck off, blackpilling is a psyop. If your talking points end in the erasure of my people you are no different than a liberal, muslim, jew, commie or whoever else is actively working against my people.

Nice picture. Saved.
>tfw thebes
Diversity of ideas in insular communities is a strength.

>first exposure to a systematic critique of modernity, which I got a lot out of.
Same. A lot of us I think grew up thinking that something wasn't quite right, but couldn't quite express it or articulate it.

Britain HAS declined, but so had the Roman Empire before the next great torch bearer took her place. There are still Western nation capable of doing that, Germany has managed to get up on her feet and Switzerland or some Scandinavian nations (Norway/Denmark) seem very hopeful.