Redpill me on the Irish famine

Why didn't the Irish eat fish instead? They live on a fucking island. Or how about growing other vegetables besides potatos?

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What about all the people who don't live on the coast then?

Fucking retard.

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Papistry is a false path to salvation.

What about all the lakes? Lough Neagh, Lough Corrib etc. Besides the majority of the Irish population lived and still lives along the coastal areas.

Just because you live on an island doesn't mean everyone lives a walking distance from the sea.

they got lazy and only started using the easiest type of potato. It was cheap and plentiful, but it was the weakest and they got IN BIG TROUBLE!

I guess it was sorta like the housing market and they thought the good times were never gonna end

>counting on the existence of a genius irishman who learned how to grab fish out of water and plant something other than potatoes

You are asking too much from them

The food was being forcefully exported to London to feed England, and there was an export tariff on grain. Potatoes was all they had left, but a famine destroyed the crop. The royal during this was Queen Victoria.
Women are the devil.

>hes never farmed or even had a garden

Your island is the size of one of our smaller states.

Why not walk to the coasts?

Because potatoes are fucking good

It still doesn't answer the question. After the first and even second years of the potato crop failing you would think they would stop and say "okay this isn't working. Let's grow another vegetable or crop". Why did they stick to potatos?

It also doesn't explain their aversion to fish. Even today fish does not feature heavily in Irish cuisine.

I'm glad they died and I hope they burn in hell.

because the jews in britain literally stole the food by military force and starved almost 6 million... ironically enough

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Are you asking why people that own farms don't harvest fish instead? Because this makes you look retarded if so.

because the average height of a human is 6'0"

The Irish grew plenty of crops, they didn't even like potatoes, no one did. The British took all the livestock/grains/crops to feed their military, potatoes were all that was left, potatoes went bad, famine ensured.

What is salt curing, smoking, or literally any other preservation method used at the time?

No wonder you 88 average IQ potato kangz nearly starved to death on an island surrounded by food.

they didn't even take it for their military, they took it for their fucking aristocracy while their people were also going through famine. and they took the potatoes too, it wasn't that all the potatoes went bad, its that they took everything.

The Irish are unbelieving people who still adhere to worshipping idols.

God punished them and gave all their luck to the good christians of Britain instead.

mate, they made it so that you couldn't leave the island. the took all ships for their navy, they forced most people with sizable boats to transfer food to britain, and you were not allowed to try to leave.

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Can we get a non-shit post answer please?

Seriously why didn't they eat fish? Even the modern day Irish aren't huge fish consumers.
Compare to the Spanish, Japanese and other coastal nations.

Yet their descendants are still doing better than Africans descendants.

>British change Irish inheritance law to subdivide plots between sons each generation
>ended up with families having 50m squared to grow a full years harvest for their family
>only thing with any kind of sustainable chance of keeping you alive at this level of farming is potatoes
>potato blight
>fishing wasn't particularly well invested into and contrary to American opinions doesn't entail swimming into the sea with your bare hands
> it requires boats and ports,something people who are starving to death may not have a lot of
But I'm sure it was just that they didn't think of fishing and you my genius friend have figured it oit or were too lazy, people who are starving to death never want food, especially lazy micks.

They were net exporters of food every year of the famine, they were just a slave plantation for the British. The slaves food was potatoes, and everything else was for the British. Potatoes went bad and...

>ETERNAL ANGLO STRIKES AGAIN

No more potatoes. People died.

Not everything is a conspiracy bro.

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The famine primarily affected the Catholics. The Protestants were given support by the British government so they were not affected as much(mild inconvenience).
Catholics were not allowed to fish. To answer your fish question.
The Catholics depended on the potatoes more so than any other group because it is so easy to grow and needs little area to produce significant calories. It was the primary source of carbohydrates. When it failed the price of food went up and Catholics being poor could not afford to buy other crops. Additionally the British government took a laize faire approach and increased the exporting of food. While other countries also experienced the famine those nations redirected food export for the domestic market. There are records that many in the British parliament saw the famine as a way to solve "their Irish problem". Ireland was their most troubling colony since they took it to control the textile market. Irish linen was a luxury item in continental Europe.
The English used this "famine" as a way to clear the island out. Many were shipped out on coffin ships to the americas(my family). Those that stayed many just died in the street or converted to the Anglican faith to eat at the poor houses. You had have meat soup in Friday to eat the rest of the week. That's because in those days Catholics had to abstain from meat on all fridays not just during lent.

Also this was after they evicted all the farmers to the shitty land in the west so they were farming in absolute shit land, to hell or to connaught was the phrase used to evict them.

I wouldn't know about the fine details, but i do remember the french peasants refused to grow potatoes and only wanted to farm the grains like usual, which could have helped during the big famines which snowballed into the french revolution

you need to look into the history and take the potato pill.

Did you know the Irish cooperated with Hitler in allowing troops to land in Ireland and invade United Cuckdom from the other side

Too bad burgers interfered

Hail Paddy

Was genocide.
Will never be recognized as such.
But they'll never win Eurovision points off the Irish again so I'd call that even.

They had no fishing industry or the money to make one to service large enough amounts of the population.
They didn't have the boats, the means to transport enough fish or materials to preserve the fish.

They do eat fish but mostly salt water, fresh water fish aren't really eaten much and are seen as dirty.

It's very hard to start an industry when all the working class are dying and weak.

Basically all food was heavily regulated and basically stolen by Britain.

Fish, not being a potato, fell under the category of "food" and was thus taken by the British.

So basically pol/ can't understand that a fish is not a potato.

Yeah we still use the phrase taking the soup to refer to protestants sometimes, many Irish people will refer to it as a genocide but as someone who's studied it extensively as a history student over here, it was more of a fuck up of free market economics and the brits thinking things would sort themselves out

You will pay the price for being a fussy eater.

Potatoes caused an explosion in the population that was unsustainable when the potato crop failed.

Don't put all your eggs in to one basket. And don't sell yourself out to international elite.

First decent answer. So the Irish cut down their forests for farming meaning there was no wood for ship building. The West coast is too treacherous for fishing. Even then the peasantry couldn't afford salt to preserve any fish that was caught.

Fish aren't in lakes over here mate.

Take the Apple pill.

Was fishing even permitted? Didn't the Irish have to receive permission to fish?

You need to read up on this stuff man you have no idea of the context of any of these things. Its you who sounds retarded.

>Tfw a quarter of your white population died or emigrated and you're still whiter than America

they coulda just ate it before the british saw it, wat they gonna do search ya poop?

Nazis actually paid Irish because they accidentally bombed Dublin instead of London. Stellar targeting.

Since this is a stealth Eire/Pol/ thread, does anyone know if anti Irish propaganda in the US was Jewish work? Or is that bullshit?

Yeah and it's only white at all because we moved there!

Nah, probably burn your house down with your children inside.

The Irish arrived in America in the 1840s before the Jews (1890s) so it's likely bullshit.

I've heard a lot of people say that fishing was disallowed but not seen anything concrete, I know for sure that the Irish catholics were prevented from entering most professions and most definitely wouldn't be allowed to own a fishing company of their own, Although with currachs and the way the west coast is its hard to stop everyone, still not enough to sustain a nation in any way shape or form though

I did some masters level courses on the potato famine and I think it goes like this:

The potato was introduced to Ireland in early modern era (like 1700). During this period and after Ireland waso utterly undeveloped. Low population medieval technology - a real shit hole. Follow the introduction of the potato the population jumped. This was because potatoes are high calorie to effort crops. So calories were more plentiful with the same amount of work. Good times ensued and the population went up. But Ireland remained undeveloped because it was under the thumb of the English lords who simply extracted rent. When the crop failed there was nothing to fall back on. Ireland was still a shit hole, under the thumb of a foreign power who expected their rent.

So the potato famine was caused by the Irish leaning to hard of thearing potato and the English for the developing thier colony.

even as a joke run-on sentence the grammar and spelling in that is too terrible to be funny

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>t. Manlet

The british were the main cause. The potato famine didn't kill enough that the irish people couldn't survive but the brits were taxing them so hard that they died of starvation. Why do you think Americans had such an aversion to taxes? After being forced to america by the british they were tired of being assfucked so we rose up and kicked some ass to stop it.

british stole the wood too for their navy. some was irish cutting it down for farming but the brits stole it and did to ireland what they did to their own country.

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If I had a shiny nickel for every time someone said Queen Victoria only gave £5 to famine relief. (It was actually closer to £61,000 from her own wallet).

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Because Irish people are like Rosie O'Donnell & Alec Baldwin - bloated bloviating abusive, constantly drunk blowhard idiots

For centuries, the English (Not even the Brits as even the Scots sympathized with the Irish) were constantly trying to get rid of the Irish problem by:

>Cutting down all their trees
>Keeping them dumb and uneducated
>Keeping them drunk
>Starving them
>Keeping them dysgenic
etc.

Apparently, in the 19th century the average Irish diet consisted of buttermilk and potatoes, which is supposedly nutritionally complete. The English wanted to control them, but not to care for them. The English could have easily stopped the famine in a day, but they didn't want to.

So many Irish moved to America and Canada where they have flourished today.

>BRO JUST GET ON A BOAT AND GET A FISHING POLE XDDDDD

It's true.
Every Irish Gran openly worships Daniel O'Donnell. God hath smite them for this false idol.

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Why do Americans complain about the deficit?

They are in America, why dont they just work harder and make more money

BOOM problem solved, I should be president its easy

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She holidayed in Killarney plenty of times. Think of it as paying for that.

Oh, and she's dead.

Really? Then how did all of the Irish make it to America, to infiltrate our once esteemed law enforcement agencies?

Oliver Cromwell. Said it about Donegal, which is a beautiful place. Shit for farming crops but good for sheep and cows, which the Catholics weren't permitted to raise and keep.

Was this supposed to be some kind of burn, mate?

>Tfw everywhere on the Island is less than 70 miles away from a coastline

The british did it as an act of supremecy over there cucked neighbor.

She also passed on shitty genes that arguably wiped out three monarchies.

come out ye black and tans

I really don't know what you're trying to say here. Is Continental Europe not considered to be white by the Eternal Micks?

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Ielands demographic is changing faster than the UK's and it's still ruled by a troika of EU-IMF-KIKES..

Not quite.

You say that like detachments weren't stationed in Ireland.

This pretty much sums it up.

Potatoes being south american, and south american foods being seen as barbarous were pretty much the only reason that potatoes weren't taken. It wasn't so much that the eternal took everything but they didn't really leave much behind. 800 calories a day will leave the people weak and susceptible to illness.

we were the only ones who sent you food, never forget that mickbro

So their kids could become NEETs in America? It's the fucking life.

t. Irish expat

Shatter retired ages ago and there are hardly any Jews in Ireland. Muslims are the major problem.

Are you fucking retarded? You think they all lived on the coast or all had proper equipment? Or rather that a couple of men in a boat could feed all 50 of his wifes children? hahaha why doesnt africa get food, dont they got zebras n shit
Kill yourself autist

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Had Victoria not passed haemophilia into the Romanov dynasty, would the Bolsheviks have been able to capitalize on her devotion to Rasputin and feed the anti-Tsar hysteria?

Even the Cherokee sent aid, and they had nothing, since the trail of tears only happened a few years earlier, the queen should have been fed to the crows

>Why didn't the Irish eat fish instead?
It's not like everyone lived on the coast. Plus fish are seasonal and you have to cart your catch around. Small island yes, but you still need some degree of logistics. Also, you need durable ships and trained crew to fish cod in typical Northern Atlantic conditions and guess who had the monopoly on maritime industries.

>>They live on a fucking island. Or how about growing other vegetables besides potatos?
British basically forced them to monocrop potatoes for their own sustenance because everything else was reserved for export to England, primarily beef. Most land was reserved for grazing and what was left couldn't grow anything else well besides potatoes. When you have to feed your own family and all you have a shitty plot of land that can only grow potatoes effectively, you make do. When the blight hit, the Brits made it worse by insisting that export quotas are met. Pretty much why most Irish hate them to this day.

Irish Catholics were not allowed to fish?
Did you ever hear of a spot called Newfoundland?

>Even then the peasantry couldn't afford salt to preserve any fish that was caught.
And why couldn't they just make their own salt from seawater?

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they're central asians who crossed bering strait dummy. irish are bros but they don't know it yet

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Ive read some shit that tried to connect the celts with the scythians, scythi becoming scoti, so who knows, steppe niggers are all the same anyways

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aye, tis all true

shame they all didn't die 2bh

They have the same iq as Turkroaches, what more do you expect from them.

Pic gave me a chuckle

blacks can't swim

The infrastructure wasnt there to spread the relief effort effectively enough.

The corn/grain they tried to import from america was shit

There were famines previous to this. This one hurt the most because of the tariffs imposed by the British government who were slow to act. Also parliament was full of people who didnt want to deflate the price of corn or whatever so they couldnt passed any act to allow immediate relief because of the rich cunts who blocked the bills.

Also as previously mentioned the government had divided the land up and potatoes were the only thing they could grow to survive. Prime land was used for cattle for British markets.

A lot of the Irish said fuck it and went to America.


I mean its all literally in the wikipedia article. I'm not sure why this is a thread unless the goal is to bait people into shitposting at each other.


Its a shameful period in British history. Same as any empire who is detached from its subjects. They fuck over anyone who isnt able to fend for themselves.

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