Without memes, explain why libertarianism is not the best idealogy

Without memes, explain why libertarianism is not the best idealogy

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devil's advocate:

who will pay for the roads?

Because it encourages Terminal Uniqueness.

Businesses pay for access roads, every neighborhood has a homeowners association which pays for it

no roads, please. keep away from my house

It's literally a walking contradiction. Most of these self proclaimed "classical liberals" scream for an open market without regulation, but then contradict themselves and scream about how the jews have too much corrupt control over the market.

You can't have it both ways, either regulate the circulation and the market, or have it open for corruption and global monopolization

>we need slavery because utility

Mainstream libertarianism - that is, democratic libertarianism - is inherently suicidal.

As long as democracy is how governments are elected and borders are open, a wealthy libertarian country will attract third worlders who will vote for socialism. You can see this happening with America over the past half-century.

Ironically, the only way libertarianism can flourish is under a dictatorship or at least an authoritarian government that limits voting rights.

>liberal is the same as libertarian
HAHAHAH

It is good but not on the extreme like the dumb Anarchocapitalists. The State is needed to guide people in one direction, but it shouldn't meddle on personal affairs and it should respect privacy. Public spaces should be fair game though.

>she unironically thinks she's a slave
I wish cops would chain you up and whip you to death for keks.

drumph boys think libertarian-ism = liberalism

can't tell if bait or if doesn't know the difference between liberal and classical liberalism

who guide the people who make up the state, big guy?

Not lolbertarians, thank allah.

Because it doesn't address nor solve for the JQ

Absolute Monarchism is the true redpilll.
Over 95% of Jewish expulsions were ordered by monarchs.
Jews & criminals HATE monarchs because all they have to do is say "get out of my country" and they have to leave. It's why they were behind the overthrowing of all the monarchies of Europe.

You probably want to define what you mean by "libertarian," because American-style libertarianism (i.e., free market, classical liberal, minarchist, etc.) is very different from European libertarianism (essentially left-libertarianism).

anarcho capitalism is essentially a consistent application of what libertarians claim to believe. "small government" libertarians are either not libertarians or are hypocrites.
>hiding the fact that your post was retarded with memes
dumb frogposter

I should add a true absolute monarch must also control their nation's money supply.

We need benevolent monarchs to throw out all the lolbertardians.

The problem with libertarianism is that it assumes that the smallest unit of society is the individual. ("The smallest minority on earth is the individual" as Ayn Rand put it.) But it's actually the relationship between individuals. No man is an island after all.

Forbidding memes is anti-libertarian.

Let's not forget that WWI was a war to remove the monarchies

A small government can easily fund roads.

It's a fraction of a fraction of the astronomical amount of money our government spends every year.

literally doesn't know how to google
how embarrassing

Libertarianism is not a fully realized ideology, it basically boils down to a nebulous vision of "freedom." Exactly what the "freedom" is is never fully explained and left open to interpretation. each individual libertarian has a different vision, from an impossible utopia where everybody gets along and cooperates with love and friendship and there is no such thing as bad thoughts or sadness, to what is basically feudalism but with corporations.

How would society ever transition to that platform? Distributing ownership would be a nightmare. I agree with the ideology but I don't believe it's attainable without beginning from a clean slate. I'm no political scientist, just shitposting thoughts.

>He said, while posting pictures of monarchist Jews

I've taken this bait before

Because you still remain spooked with the NAP.

>"small government" libertarians are either not libertarians or are hypocrites.
More of this, autistic infighting between you "people" is good for everybody.

I care about the way people behave in my society and around my children

it is actually. it is embedded in evolution.

Literally no such thing.

>"small government" libertarians are either not libertarians

Libertarians aren't libertarians? What?

Libertarians still want a government, anyone claiming otherwise is the imposter.

The government should take no more than 10 percent of the annual income of the nation.

That's a fair, low number that is more than enough to fund the roads, a few safety net programs and the national defense.

Monarchism is embedded in evolution. Even insect colonies have queens. Every system requires a hierarchy

it's places the individual above the community and family

Open borders

Its really not that expensive or even difficult to pave a road,

Literally two 16 yr old kids with a truck can fix potholes in the street...

Mises was openly Jewish at first, then converted to Catholicism. He was also on the Hasburg payroll throughout his early career and kept a warm attitude towards their monarchy throughout his life. Rothbard is his direct intellectual descendant.
Friedman is less relevant, but even then it's well known that the former sympathized with certain monarchies and the right-wing dictatorship of Pinochet.
Rand isn't worth talking about in the same post as Rothbard.

People that want to trade

muslims. just bomb them all.

Why do lolbertarians do this.

Anytime im on one of their vidya somebody will say end the fed and the first comment will be

>Devils Advocate; but why

Fuckin fags an shit

>buy shit from Amazon, all you have to do is pay for a road from your house to their distribution center first

Sources please

that's becasue here in reality, an actual thing should ALWAYS be "above" an abstraction

learn to read, nigger.

Libertarianism is not the best ideology because it causes autism.

No need for roads once McTesla develops flying cars

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>family is an abstraction to the lolbertarian
Implicit admission of being a permavirgin with no parents.

Libertarianism is weak to outside influence, jews or commies can wreak havoc if everyone is broken up and completely out for themself. Which is why you use facism to eliminate the outside and present internal threats then proceed towards libertarianism.

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He said Libertarianism not total anarchy you contrarian fuck

Imagine how quickly Tesla would've given us flying cars if the evil government stopped giving them billions of dollars of subsidies and left them alone.

Direct Democracy and libertarianism are incompatible with each other

Autism causes libertarianism

...

Tesla is a scam that has yet to turn a profit

>NAP good
>government good
self-contradictory

thats it op

Jews created lolbertarianism

>a basement dwelling, fedora tipping virgin who watched Molyneux was buttblasted enough to make this meme

Human beings are social animals not autonomous free thinkers

The non agression principle has no divine objective moral value
Nap is subjective

Libertarianism requires white people to exist yet in its strictest form is open borders

This is pretty much why conservatarianism is the ultimate redpill. Close the fucking borders. Keep those dirty commies out

>implying homeowner assocs are not some form of localised govt
If someone new moves into the neighbourhood does he have to pay this road tax- opps i mean- road fee?

What if i want to back out of the road contract my father signed? I take back my share of the road?

Do you hate taxes?
Do you like the constitution?
Do you think you should be left alone?
Value an individual over their group?
Hate commies?
Libertarianism is the right choice for you.

But socialism works when nations are all white
I.e. Sweden and Denmark

doesn't even rise to the level of "local government" (as in municipal, county, town/township etc.)

Constitution violates nap

Can't initiate force against commies

Human beings are social animals therefore pure individualism is impossible

It's not the best if you're unable to make your own destiny and rely on others to carry you.

It's the best ideology, all other ideologies sell themselves on libertarian principal's.

Eg: communism; "ok comrades, lets take over everything so everyone can have a stake in it and profit from it!"

>Libertarian angle of self determination and reward for ones actual work.

Then (((capitalism in the current context))): "big corporations that are guaranteed market share by legislating competition out of existence is free market! Hehe, it's not. But maybe you can run this scam someday you clever goy! Work hard and get your education tickets to eligible for the next management position.

>Pretending heavily regulated crony capitalism is actual free markets.

Basically libertarians are always correct because they should never be forcing or coercing anyone to their ways. The libertarian leads by example and values merit over virtue.

Anyone else is just trying to make up for their lack confidence/ability by climbing the crony ladder and forcing his will on his fellow man under false pretenses.

Pic related: what happens when you elect a crony with (((political and msm journalism))) credentials.

Maybe the mayor of London can do it

LOL, All these replies and still no arguments against Libertarianism.

Just Wiki Mises, and ctrl+f Hasburg.
Also Rothbard and his affiliation with Catholicism (he ended up not converting and stating that he didn't have a strong faith, but that if he were of that inclination he considered Catholicism to be most appropriate).
Hoppe, Rothbard's prime student (although not jewish) goes to great lengths to detail how monarchy is better than democracy in 'Democracy: the god that failed'.

Sure, they might not have been moral authorities of the West, but cut them some slack. A non-theist jew that declares Catholicism to be superior and bashes Israel (google "Rothbard zionism" for triggered jews) is alright in my book

Here you go

Please just go
You are not welcomed here
Fuck the constitution
Fuck the individual
Fuck muh liberty
Fuck John Locke
Fuck all forms of liberalism

Go masturbate to gold coins you weak homosexual

Without strictly limiting the government's powers, the government will ALWAYS get out of hand. Why does social security even exist? It's literally a Ponzi Scheme. I'm going to pay into it for my whole life, but I'll never see a dime of it. Why do I get punished through taxation even though I've done everything right in life? I'd trust in NatSoc, but I think it's too easy for a bad guy to get into power. Not everyone is working towards the best interests of the country.

Basically: social Darwinism will solve society's ills. The undesirables will starve in the streets. A fascist government would have just executed them, but it's all the same in the end.
Libertarians are not anarcho-capitalists. I think the government should maintain the police, the military, the roads, the courts, and a few regulatory committees (FDA, OSHA, even the EPA).

Stay mad cucks

libertarianism is good but as soon as you step on some one elses freedom it goes too far, simple as that

>here in reality,

well here in reality the fact that your parents fucked so your mom could shart you out of her twat is more important than anything you might feel you need on a personal level, because appealing to your personal dumbfuckery doesn't guarantee that you will stick your cock in a woman so she can shart out another useless mouth breather that looks just like you

I have never seen argument for libertarianism

But in a libertarian society the undesirables still vote
Not to mention they can run a muck when they get hungry form tribal gangs and chimp out

>Thinking he can post about ancap without memes on a Tibetan Salsa dancing board

It's completely wrong that Libertarianism requires open borders. Since borders are not managed by the state, you are at the complete liberty to close them. One extreme but valid example of a libertarian society would be a muzzie town where Sharia law is enforced, women get stoned for not wearing the hijab, and men get murdered for being infidels. It's perfectly libertarian as long as they own the land where they enforce Sharia and as long as people in the town willingly agreed to join it. Likewise, while you can't force all whites not to mingle with niggers, you can certainly be a part of a white-only society, ban niggers, jews, whoever the fuck you like from entering, disown your daughter if she gets blacked, etc; as long as that society is formed by whites that willingly agreed to be a part of it. Just make them sign a (literal, not social) contract beforehand where they agree not to trade with blacks, not to host them at their homes, etc., and that provides some guidance for what to do if these rules are broken (fines, capital punishment, exile).

Damn... Tom really let himself go.

A million angry jihadis. Good luck organizing enough to fight them!

Did I mention the NAP?
Did I mention intiating force against commies?
Did I mention pure individualism?
I don't even know how to respond to this. I think you just need to take 5 and chill.

Yeah this is true, it's also why we live in harmony when things are fair. It's also why we're all socialising on here about things that aren't fair.

Power corrupts a human, this is why absolute power mustn't be an option. If theres no one deciding who the winners and losers are through sneaky monetary policy and legislation.

In theory, that should end all of this fuckery we're seeing today. If Keynesian ideals are thrown out, war is no longer (((good for the economy))) and (((oil))) will no longer be the primary energy source.

Ideologically we're in a Keynesian epoch of incredible mismanagement of the economy, and even though money is a horribly dry subject for most - it's also the primary incentive for all humans so it mustn't be dismissed as (((too complicated))) like the msm, school and gubberment says.

Tom was on my top 8

Kek!!!!! Digits!!!!!!!!!!

i dont know about you guys, but i would to live in a world like that, hell fucking yeah. that would so much more fun than this boring ass drama show that is the world today.

>true libertarianism = anarchy
>anarchy gives way to social darwinism
>feudalism is inevitable

It all already happend 2000 years ago, user

Feudalism did nothing wrong. #NotAllMedievalLords

While I agree with the idea that a national socialist can be a libertarian ( but let's not get to carried away now)

The defense of that said property is left to either the owner or an arbitrary police force who will favor cost effectiveness

So if a Mexican army decides to raid southern Texas, who will win
Merchants soldiers or a Mexican army

I know this is /nu-pol/
But liberalism in all forms is cancer

Classical liberalism got us where we are

It is time to start over

A new world

A new order

What kind of libertarian are you then

This, really. Libertarianism is a great ideal, but it cannot thrive in reality due to the threat of those who would subvert it. A sort of fascism/Libertarianism paradoxical hybrid could be interesting... Absolute governmental authority for the purpose of defense against external and subversive threats, but otherwise, piss off and leave us be.

We wud not have the ability to have a standing army or to conduct military resaerch such as nukes

because we need wage labor laws to protect the working class.

Explain how ancap isn't the other side of the same delusional utopian coin as communism.